'Goldstone says he'll work to nullify report in UN'

[shira]

Author of the Goldstone Report, Judge Richard Goldstone, promised to work to nullify the contested report and has accepted an invitation to visit Israel, Army Radio reported on Tuesday.

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Additionally, Yishai said that Goldstone made a promise to work towards retracting his UN report. Former ambassador to the UN Danny Gillerman, who also spoke with Goldstone, added that the judge would not act immediately to do so.

He wants to "wait for the dust to settle" in the aftermath of an op-ed he penned in the Washington Post last week, in which he wrote that Israel, contrary to his famed UN report, did not target civilians in Operation Cast Lead as a matter of policy, AP reported.

http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article.aspx?id=215275

[shira]

1. Heads are exploding over this...

The Mondoweiss crowd, MJ Rosenberg, and Human Rights Watch are having nervous breakdowns. They've devoted so much time, energy, and effort using the Goldstone Report...

:popcorn:

[oberliner]

3. MJ coming back strong with: Goldstone's Edit Changes Nothing

Predictable as can be:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mj-rosenberg/goldstones-edit-changes-n_b_844573.html

[King_David]

7. Seems EVERYONE else believes it changes EVERYTHING,

How can anyone with a straight face say 'Goldstone's Edit Changes Nothing' ???


:crazy:

[azurnoir]

2. and exactly how will Goldstone 'nullify' the report?

meaning will he request (in writing) that UNHRC nullify the entire report or just nullify the parts that pertain to Israel?

[shira]

4. What do you think now about the reliability of the claims vs. Israel in the report? n/t

[azurnoir]

6. the song remains eh? the same but that is not what I asked

and we've already had this 'discussion'.

[TomClash]

5. He won't - it's Internet Irgun bullshit one again

Ken Roth of Human Rights Watch put this in perspective in a letter to the NYT today.

[oberliner]

8. Internet Irgun bullshit?

What the hell does that mean?

[miscsoc]

9. What do you think it means?

[oberliner]

10. No clue

I've never come across that particular expression before.

Google search turns up nothing.

[King_David]

11. maybe its like an electronic intafadah?

[oberliner]

12. That is a pretty well-established website

This terminology is totally new to me.

[miscsoc]

14. It's just a vaguely negative way of referring to the reflexively pro-Israel crowd online

cf. the phrase "armchair general"

[TomClash]

22. Exactly

I didn't know it was an actual website, though. It's all part of "hasbarra."

[oberliner]

24. Internet Irgun implies a connection to a violent paramilitary group

Hasbara just means promoting positive stories about Israel

Using the term you selected would be like calling those who promote positive Palestinian stories the "Internet Islamic Jihad" which I would think would be offensive.

[TomClash]

25. I view it differently

I think hasbara is really nothing more than propaganda funneled to the media by LAP and its surrogates.

Miscsoc had it exactly right.

When Occupied Palestine is freed and elects a member of Islamic Jihad as its Prime Minister, I will accept your analogy. Until then it is bogus. And even if it were accurate, more than a few people here were overt cheerleaders for the attack on Gaza and now seek to whitewash it. They are people who have an internet craving for the death of Palestinians and so I think Internet Irgun is a perfect description of their desires and how those desires are impelmented.

[oberliner]

26. "They are people who have an internet craving for the death of Palestinians"

There is no such poster here. That is just grotesque.

Speaking of leaders, what is your opinion of Ismail Haniyeh?

[TomClash]

27. Really?

Open your eyes.

I prefer Fayyad or Abbas.

[oberliner]

28. Provide evidence if you can

I've not seen anything of that nature here.

[oberliner]

23. But the Irgun were a terrorist group

Is the implication that pro-Israel folks online are akin to terrorists?

Would it be fair to refer to the pro-Palestinian folks online as the Internet Islamic Jihad?

[azurnoir]

15. oh I was thinking more like who's name can not be mentioned here

but has several cross posters from DU, including one posting on this thread, perhaps.

[King_David]

16. huh?

wtf are you talking about ??

[azurnoir]

18. it is a vehemently ProIsrael website that can not be posted here

and according to that website it because it feared at DU because it holds some lock on truth or some such, of course this according to the websites posters or a poster, but I would name but I can't I don't think even that much is allowed here, however being new here you probably wouldn't know of it yet

[King_David]

19. vehemently Pro Israel website ?

Should be very common on a website supporting the Democratic party ?

Just about every Congress Member's and Democratic Senator's official websites are 'vehemently Pro Israel '

You disagree?

[azurnoir]

20. My Democratic congress person is not 'vehemently Pro Israel '

if fact my Congressperson banned AIPAC from their offices after AIPAC accusations of being a 'terror supporter'

your claim about websites is curious because I could only find one Senator's website that mentioned last week's letter to Obama although a total of 27 from both parties signed it and it was not a Democrat one but I am sure you can do much better. On the subject of that letter only one of my 2 Democrat senators signed it, Amy Klobuchar

[oberliner]

30. McCollum Comments on Goldstone Report

In case you are interested:

http://www.mccollum.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=755%3Anovember-3-2009-floor-statement-mccollum-support-human-rights-a-opposes-h-res-867&catid=65%3A2009-statements&Itemid=148

[azurnoir]

31. McCollum's statement on House res 867 opposing the Goldstone Report

Congresswoman Betty McCollum
Statement in support of human rights and in opposition to H. Res. 867
November 3, 2009

Madam Speaker, this resolution harms U.S. national security interests in the Middle
East and American leadership for human rights and humanitarian law. And, while the
U.S. attempts to be an honest-broker in an Israeli-Palestinian peace process this
resolution is blatantly biased and damages U.S. credibility.

This resolution seeks to hide the ugliness of the Gaza War by covering-up the violent
excesses committed against innocent civilians by Hamas and the Israeli Defense
Forces.

Why does the U.S. House want to reject an accounting of Hamas’s terrorism against
Israeli civilians as if thousands of rockets were not fired at Israel?

Why does this resolution want to deny that hundreds of Palestinian women and elders
were needlessly killed by the IDF?

http://www.mccollum.house.gov/images/stories/Statements2009/11.03.09%20goldstone%20statment.pdf

she was re-elected in Nov of 2010

[ProgressiveProfessor]

13. Roth tried, but it was far from a slam dunk success

When the primary author chooses to disavow it, recovery is not really achieved with a single letter

[TomClash]

29. The letter reminded us that most of the report

didn't concern an intentional policy of killing civilians.

Still, you are partially right because it didn't really address that point at all.

[King_David]

17. internetirgun.com

Hey its available , if you want ?

http://www.register.com/promo/domain-to-website-v2.rcmx?trkID=SEMUxaxH8W&gclid=CLqoxv6Dh6gCFYjsKgodm3lHsg

[azurnoir]

21. Goldstone does not intend to retract UN report'

Goldstone, in an interview with the Associated Press, said that Yishai had called to thank him for his Washington Post op-ed piece, but that the two never discussed the actual report. Goldstone said that he had responded to Yishai's thanks, telling him his utmost concern was for "truth, justice, and human rights."

On Tuesday, AP reported that the interior minister had said that Goldstone, “as a Jew understands well the story of the Jewish people’s suffering ... and it is very important for him to come and see this." Yishai added that Goldstone had made a promise to work towards an official retraction of the report.

Goldstone told the Associated Press that Yishai had invited him to Israel, and that he accepted the invitation but would not be able to come until July. He added that he ended his conversation with Yishai expressing his "love for Israel."

As for his report on the 2009 Gaza offensive, Goldstone reiterated that the "intentionality on the part of Israel" required review, and that "domestic investigation could lead to further reconsideration." The judge concluded, however, that no part of the report needed reconsideration at the present time.

http://www.jpost.com/International/Article.aspx?id=215347