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Scurrilous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 02:08 AM Original message |
Decline of democratic norms among Israelis |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 07:13 AM Response to Original message |
1. Link to the IDI findings... |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 07:57 AM Response to Original message |
2. They make up their own rules to redefine the debate |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 08:06 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Who's 'they'? |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 10:00 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. not "they're" not |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 12:03 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. Not everyone can even be represented in the U.S. |
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Jack Rabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 10:59 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. The problem is democracy, Muddle |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 12:07 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Not even vaguely the case |
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Jack Rabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 12:56 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Not even vaguely the case is right |
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LeahMira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 08:58 AM Response to Reply #9 |
39. Will Palestine be a democracy? |
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Jack Rabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-22-04 10:32 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Response |
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sushi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 07:55 AM Response to Reply #2 |
37. Say what you want, Muddle |
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mobuto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-16-04 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
4. Two thirds of those in land controlled by Israel can vote |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 10:02 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. so a third of all people |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 10:06 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Does that make it ok? |
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Jack Rabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-17-04 10:33 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. That still flunks the democracy test |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 12:07 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. I guess you never lived in D.C. |
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Jack Rabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 01:05 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Again, you attempt to compare the occupation to US federalism is absurd |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 01:27 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. eloquently and succintly put Jack Rabbit |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 07:41 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. But they don't have the same rights as you and I |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 08:20 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Deleted message |
Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 09:33 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. There have been attempts at peace |
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Les Claypool (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 09:36 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Israel has rejected numerous overtures to peace as well. |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 10:06 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. What question? |
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Les Claypool (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 06:00 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. Obviously you knew what question. |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 06:14 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Actually, no, I hadn't seen your question |
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Jack Rabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 09:30 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. If you want to make that comparison . . . |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 09:37 AM Response to Reply #20 |
23. So only a perfect democracy counts? |
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Jack Rabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 10:07 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. No perfect democracy exists, ever has or ever will |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 10:14 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. You said it yourself and thanks |
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Jack Rabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 10:29 AM Response to Reply #26 |
27. There is no real dispute |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 10:53 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Of course there is a dispute |
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Les Claypool (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 08:18 AM Response to Reply #12 |
18. Let's be clear Muddle. Are you advocating Greater Israel? |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 11:07 AM Response to Reply #18 |
29. Care to define that? |
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Les Claypool (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 06:02 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. I believe you know what I mean. |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 06:15 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Some |
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Les Claypool (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 07:14 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. It's not open to negotiation. |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 11:55 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. It's Israel, it's not open to negotiation |
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Les Claypool (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-19-04 05:00 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Ummm...only to Israel. |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 07:06 AM Response to Reply #4 |
16. In ANY Arab country? |
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sushi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 08:04 AM Response to Reply #4 |
38. The subject is Israel |
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