What caused the 8:46:30 seismic event that occurred 10 seconds before the actual aircrash at 8:46:40

[seemslikeadream]

http://www.rinf.com/columnists/news/seismic-proof-911-was-an-inside-job


Now is the time for justice for those who died that day, justice for their families and friends who grieve to this day, justice for all the victims who survived, and that those who did this heinous act receive the full measure of justice befitting their crime.

No stone should be left unturned until these murderers are caught.

Now is the time for the new 9/11 investigation.

The official times for plane “impact” as declared by the US Government, from both the 9/11 Commission and from NIST (National Institute of Standards and Technology), are different and yet both are true and accurate times. What can this factual contradiction mean? Looking exclusively at WTC1, there is found the indisputable causal link:

One World Trade, September 11, 2001
American Airlines Flight 11 “impact” time:
8:46:30 UTC, per LDEO seismic data (National Institute of Standards and Technology, 2005)
8:46:40 UTC, per FAA last primary radar contact (9/11 Commission Final Report, 2004)

Q- What caused the 8:46:30 seismic event that occurred 10 seconds before the actual aircrash at 8:46:40?
A- The only possibility is huge explosions, as corroborated by many eyewitnesses at the time.
Q- Who caused these explosions before the plane hit?

In 2004, the 9/11 Commission avoided addressing the earlier seismic event time (which had been, in error, attributed by Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory, Columbia University, originally in 2001 as “plane impact”).

In 2005, NIST avoided addressing the 9/11 Commission’s later time for the aircraft’s actual impact time.

Both the 9/11 Commission and NIST avoided addressing the many witnesses who testified of explosions in the basements before the plane crashed.

This precision data has yet to be refuted by anyone. It is from the two highest governmental entities charged with looking into what happened on 9/11, and both declared these times as accurate, and in doing so they corroborate William Rodriguez and the many eyewitnesses the morning of 9/11 who testified of explosions in the sub-basements of WTC1 before American Airlines Flight 11 struck the building. This is indicting evidence of governmental coverup, and thus implication of complicity.

Before it is too late, demand a new 9/11 investigation, except this time a real one.
Justice waits…{and there is no statute of time limitation on murder}

[quicknthedead]

1. What caused the seismic events before the planes hit?

Answer: Explosions in the basements.

And 9/11 was an inside job.

[StrictlyRockers]

2. Bingo. Explosions in the sub-basements to release the foundation.

They always do it this way in a controlled demolition. That way the building neatly stacks down into the basement and there are not 110 stories of building sliding around at street level causing damage.

SR

[Big Pappa]

3. If this is how they do a CD

then why it did it take so long for the building to come down? CD's come down quick, not hours later. Or were they still wiring the thermite. Damn.

[greyl]

4. Obviously,to create the impression that the collapse was imminent anyway,

you know, "because of the damage from the WTC 1 and 2 collapses and the 7 hour fires, nobody in their right mind will ever suspect that we blew it up on purpose!"

[StrictlyRockers]

5. Dunno, but I'd sure like to know.

The building came down in like 7 seconds. That is EXACTLY how a controlled demolition is done.

SR

[greyl]

6. Do you expect it to collapse like a melting snow man?

How the hell is the rigging for demolition of any kind going to survive the damage and 7 hour fires that WTC7 was involved with? Why would conspirators wait 7 hours? Why level the building on purpose and create a cover story in which that must be keep secret? Why no cover story that it was done to ensure the safety of rescue workers in the area?

[Big Pappa]

7. Let me make sure I

heard you correctly. The building came down in 7 seconds. How could this be? The plane did not hit for another 10 seconds after this seismic anomaly. CD's come down quick, not hours later.

[Contrite]

9. I read a survivor's account who said they felt the building "drop".

It DROPPED after it was hit by the plane and after it swayed back and forth for a bit.

[Contrite]

10. Here it is. Look how fast this floor "sank". Notice the 2nd explosions.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/static/in_depth/americas/2001/day_of_terror/eyewitness/7.stm

On Tuesday morning at 8:46 PM, I was in 2 World Trade Center on the 64th floor, where I used to report to work for Morgan Stanley. I was sitting at my computer reading the BBC on the internet about the problems in Israel, when I heard an explosion.

I remember that I thought that it was a bad explosion because I heard the back up generator kick in within seconds of the initial impact. I jumped up and ran to one of the unoccupied offices that had a window and looked out to see large amounts of debris (papers, metal, all kinds of things!) floating down towards the street.

I ran back into my office and called my boss on his cell phone and told him, "Don't come in here there was an explosion and we are beginning to evacuate!" and I hung up the phone and ran back out into the hallway. At that moment someone called out to me, “Is there any one down there!" ,"Yes", I said and he yelled at me to, “get my ass” into the stairwell because we were evacuating. I did as told.

At that time people were still very calm and were evacuating in an orderly fashion. It was business as usual and occasionally the lines would slow down because people were fooling around and bullshitting on the stair well.

'The building began to sink'

We had reached either the 51st or the 50th floor when we heard a huge explosion, which shook the building like crazy! I grabbed hold of the stairwell to steady myself when a women who had fallen from a flight up hit me in the back and sent me down a flight of stairs with her on my back.

I then tried to stand up but the building was still shaking and the lights were flickering on and off. It was terrifying! Then the building began to sink. That’s the only way I can describe it. The floor began to lower under my feet and all I could think about was that it would crack open and I would fall hundreds of feet to my death!

Everyone thought it was only taking place in 1 WTC the other tower. Not in our tower. Once this happened it turned into pandemonium! People began screaming and crying and praying out loud for God to help them. I remember that I began to pray once the floor gave out. Asking God to just let the building stop shaking long enough for me to get out.

After what seemed like an eternity the building settled and the evacuation began in earnest. Except people were panicking and a stampede started and they were running each other down. Myself and the Philippine women who had landed on me and a few people that I remember from my floor pushed up against the wall and waited for the initial surge of people to subside and then we began to move out again.

**********
Why were explosions heard at the 51st or 50th floor? Why was the floor sinking in the space of time this guy left his office and made it down 14 flights?

[hack89]

11. Two plane impacts - two explosions

makes sense to me.

His own comments make it clear the first explosion was in the other tower.

Everyone thought it was only taking place in 1 WTC the other tower. Not in our tower. Once this happened it turned into pandemonium!

He also is able to shed some insight into the severity of the fires

I could not believe what I was seeing. Both buildings were on fire with flames shooting out of them about a 100ft high. Huge plumes of thick black smoke were billowing out of them

[Contrite]

12. Read it again. It was HIS tower. WTC2. The South Tower.

He called his boss right away and said there was an explosion and told him not to come in there. He said "I remember that I thought that it was a bad explosion because I heard the back up generator kick in within seconds of the initial impact." Do you mean to tell me he heard generator back-up in the OTHER tower or that the generator kicked in in HIS tower when NOTHING had happened? He meant that everyone thought it was happening in WTC1 and not in WTC2 but it WAS their tower. They started to evacuate after this first explosion and then heard a second explosion at the 50-51st floors. The report about the flames was what he saw from the street once he had escaped. Don't distort what he said, please.

Here is another account from WTC1/North Tower:

36 year-old Assistant Chief Engineer Joe Shearin was walking on the 38th floor of the north tower during the impact (about 55 floors up):
"On the 38th floor, Joe Shearin exited the elevator and began his walk down the hallway to meet with the tenant who had requested to see him. About 50 feet down the hallway, he heard a loud explosion and was lifted into the air. "I can't even tell you how far I traveled," he recalled. When he landed, people were already coming out of their offices into the hallway... What Joe first believed was that an equipment room on the 43rd floor, which had an electrical substation, had blown up...Upon reaching the 43rd floor, "there were patches of ceiling that was just down on the floor, water pipes were broken, water was gushing like a brook or river that was just running down the corridor of the machine room". (Chief Engineer Magazine - http://www.chiefengineer.org/article.cfm?seqnum1=1029)

[Contrite]

13. I think this is interesting in light of the above.

Flight 11 was still reportedly being tracked even AFTER it supposedly flew into WTC1 at 8:46. Note that the time the controller was trying to locate the flight is the same time Mr. Levine, above, reported hearing the first explosion, 8:48.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x47725

At 8:48, while the controller was still trying to locate American 11, a New York Center manager provided the following report on a Command Center teleconference about American 11:

Manager, New York Center: Okay. This is New York Center. We're watching the airplane. I also had conversation with American Airlines, and they've told us that they believe that one of their stewardesses was stabbed and that there are people in the cockpit that have control of the aircraft, and that's all the information they have right now.124

The New York Center controller and manager were unaware that American 11 had already crashed.

p. 22: 8:55: Regional managers discussed the hijacked Flight 11 (surely NOT the plane that hit the North Tower - the connection was not established yet):

At about 8:55, the controller in charge notified New York Center manager that she believed United 175 had also been hijacked. The manager tried to notify the regional managers and was told that they were discussing a hijacked aircraft (presumably American 11) and refused to be disturbed.

p. 26: 9:21: Boston Center informs NEADS that Flight 11 is still airborne. The information came from FAA headquarters:

Two planes had struck the World Trade Center, and Boston Center had heard from FAA headquarters in Washington that American 11 was still airborne.

[Make7]

8. Rerun

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=124590&mesg_id=124590#124590