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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 03:47 AM
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To Inside Job Cultists, the BBC story must be part of the conspiracy because
otherwise, they'd have to deal with the evidence that WTC7 was expected to fall due to damage and 7 hours of fire.

"just answering questions"
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 03:58 AM
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 04:31 AM
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2. I see you have nothing to say about the hypothesis. nt
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StrictlyRockers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 04:52 AM
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6. Go ahead, call me a cultist again. See what it gets you. n/t
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 05:38 AM
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19. I see you have nothing to say about the hypothesis. nt
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 04:39 AM
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4. Your attitude is foul
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 07:50 AM
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26. The OP is foul
use of the word "cultist" is derogatory and insulting.
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truthpowertruth Donating Member (133 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 04:32 AM
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3. Please provide evidence
Edited on Wed Feb-28-07 04:33 AM by truthpowertruth
that says 7 hours of fire and outside damage can cause a steel structered building to fall symmetrically and at near free fall speed.

Thank you.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 04:49 AM
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 05:01 AM
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7. No, it wouldn't.
Your "Government Shill" last resort is pathetic. I'm a self-employed artist, fyi.
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truthpowertruth Donating Member (133 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 05:02 AM
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8. Please provide evidence
that says 7 hours of fire and outside damage can cause a steel structered building to fall symmetrically and at near free fall speed.

Thank you.
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 05:08 AM
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9. Provide evidence that what you say happened, actually happened.
Then, provide evidence that you can follow a conversation and won't post dumb shit like "you're a waste of time" whenever you're caught on the losing side of an argument.
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truthpowertruth Donating Member (133 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 05:13 AM
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10. What I believe happened is irrelevent.
So I ask again, nicely, for the third time.

Please provide evidence that says 7 hours of fire and outside damage can cause a steel structered building to fall symmetrically and at near free fall speed.

Thank you.
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 05:15 AM
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11. You said it, not me. nt
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truthpowertruth Donating Member (133 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 05:16 AM
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12. Please provide evidence
that says 7 hours of fire and outside damage can cause a steel structered building to fall symmetrically and at near free fall speed.

Thank you.
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 05:17 AM
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13. Read post #9 for comprehension. nt
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truthpowertruth Donating Member (133 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 05:24 AM
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15. Tell me where I need to provide evidence.
- The tower didn't burn for 7 hours?
- The tower is not steel structured?
- The tower did not fall symmetrically?
- The tower did not fall with barely any resistance?

So I ask again.

Please provide evidence that says 7 hours of fire and outside damage can cause a steel structered building to fall symmetrically and at near free fall speed.

Thank you.
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 05:36 AM
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17. If you don't want to deal with the OP, try post #9 at least. nt
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StrictlyRockers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 05:20 AM
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14. And? Your point?
So we'd probably get along as famous friends in another medium. Right now it's en garde time. Put up your dukes and show me a single steel construction sky-rise which has collapsed due to fire alone ANY TIME IN HISTORY.

SR
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 05:34 AM
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16. My point was that this wasn't a unique event in the history of steel construction architecture and
that your cry of "Government Shill" is a pathetic last resort.

The argument you're depending on is so intrinsically/genetically weak that we don't even have to consult the facts to spot its fallaciousness.

Say WTC7 was the first steel structure to collapse due to fire. (which it wasn't)
It still collapsed due to fire. Your measure of falsifiability is way off.
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truthpowertruth Donating Member (133 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 05:37 AM
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18. Please provide evidence
Edited on Wed Feb-28-07 05:39 AM by truthpowertruth
-That shows WTC7 is not the first steel structured building to collapsed due to fire.
-That shows WTC7 collapsed due to fire.

Thank you.
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 05:53 AM
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20. Attend to the OP and post #9.
Contrary to popular belief, nobody is hiding the evidence you're asking for, some just aren't taking an active role in discovering it.
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truthpowertruth Donating Member (133 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 05:55 AM
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21. If it's not hidden
Edited on Wed Feb-28-07 05:57 AM by truthpowertruth
Provide it. According to you, it's not hidden. Give me a push.

I answered post #9 (post 15).
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quickesst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 06:56 AM
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22. Balance...
"that your cry of "Government Shill" is a pathetic last resort."

As compared to "cultists"? Come on. Thanks.
quickesst
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Devon77 Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 06:57 AM
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23. I don't think that is what they say


Let's quote BBC's own conspiracy files


Cameraman (BBC): But it does look exactly like a controlled demolition
Davin Coburn (PM): I understand why people might think that and I see what they saying, but when you learn the facts about the way the building was built
and about the way that it supported itself and the damage that was done from the collapsing towers that preceded it.
The idea that it was a demolition just holds no water.

............
............

Female narrator(BBC):
In it's provisional report on building 7, the official investigator suggested the collapse was caused by intense fire
as that fatally weakened the buildings steal frame.

But they said this had a low probability and more research was needed.

Five years on their final report is still being prepared.
It's thought investigators will conclude that the evidence supports their initial theory, the building collapsed it wasn't demolished.





After it collapsed they say it has a low probability that it collapsed due to fire, but on BBC they told us this story even before it happened.



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MervinFerd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 07:00 AM
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24. Was the BBC reporter sitting in a White Plastic Chair?
Just asking questions.

But as to the OP. I think you give them too much credit for rationality.

Still, the result of this will likely be weakening of the WTC7 theories. Once the actual progession of collapse is understood, the bombs are obvious nonsense.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 07:17 AM
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25. No.
The BBC were just repeating something they were told. And in their response they did not say that they were expecting it to collapse. They simply said the announcement was a "mistake" without any further explanation.
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Lithos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 09:00 AM
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27. Locking per I/P guidelines
Thread is proving a series of inflammatory comments and ad-hominems.

Lithos
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