This below, verbatim, was the exact text of Steve's reply to me, sent Wed 27/03/2002 18:07.
On receipt of his message I formatted the stuff as an html page and sent it on as a mail attachment.
So now y'all know as much about it as I did then.
OK?
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Ron,
Do you mind if I put this email up on my site as a text file so people will have something else to look at and wont keep telling me I am the only one that saw this?
Thanks,
Steve
In a message dated Sun, 24 Mar 2002 7:53:18 AM Eastern Standard Time, "Ron Harvey" <tw45ph@softhome.net> writes:
>
> To whom it may concern,
>
> I have recently assembled the following edited summary of facts, all
> derived from reports available online purporting to originate from on
> scene witnesses, my immediate purpose being to define the identity and
> the flight path of whatever object hit the Pentagon last September.
>
> I post the information without comment, except plead for further
> additions, corrections, refutations or whatever other criticism or
> opinion.
>
> While forming my own opinion as to whether or not to trust the
> official version of September 11th events in general, in these
> particulars I especially wish to emphasise that I am not working with
> or for any particular organisation, nor with any other preconceived
> agenda, merely as a regular member of the England and Wales Green
> Party, concerned to comprehend the ramifications of the moot events
> and the consequent enormity of the political challenges.
>
> Towards an honestly open minded, intelligent approach, sincerely,
>
> Ron Harvey
>
>
> ===================================================================
>
> . Anon, from the Navy Annex.
> As I stood there, I instinctively ducked at the extremely loud roar
> and whine of a jet engine spooling up. Immediately, the large silver
> cylinder of an aircraft appeared in my window, coming over my right
> shoulder as I faced the Westside of the Pentagon directly towards the
> heliport. The aircraft, looking to be either a 757 or Airbus, seemed
> to come directly over the annex, as if it had been following Columbia
> Pike
> - an Arlington road leading to Pentagon. The aircraft was moving fast,
> at what I could only be estimate as between 250 to 300 knots. All in
> all, I probably only had the aircraft in my field of view for
> approximately 3 seconds.
> The aircraft was at a sharp downward angle of attack, on a direct
> course for the Pentagon. It was "clean", in as much as, there were no
> flaps applied and no apparent landing gear deployed. He was slightly
> left wing down as he appeared in my line of sight, as if he'd just
> "jinked" to avoid something. As he crossed Route 110 he appeared to
> level his wings, making a slight right wing slow adjustment as he
> impacted low on the Westside of the building to the right of the helo,
> tower and fire vehicle around corridor 5.
>
http://www.ournetfamily.com/WarOnTerror/emails/pentagonwitness.html>
> -----------------------------
> . Donald "Tim" Timmerman, a 36 year old resident of Eppington Drive,
> to the south of the Pentagon across Interstate 395, is a navy pilot
> and a photographer.
> "I was looking out the window; I live on the 16th floor, overlooking
> the Pentagon, in a corner apartment, so I have quite a panorama. And
> being next to National Airport, I hear jets all the time, but this jet
> engine was way too loud. I looked out to the southwest, and it came
> right down 395, right over Colombia Pike, and as it went by the
> Sheraton Hotel, the pilot added power to the engines. I heard it pull up a little
> bit more, and then I lost it behind a building. And then it came out,
> and I saw it hit right in front of -- it didn't appear to crash into
> the building; most of the energy was dissipated in hitting the ground,
> but I saw the nose break up, I saw the wings fly forward, and then the
> conflagration engulfed everything in flames. It was horrible.
> What can you tell us about the plane itself?
> It was a Boeing 757, American Airlines, no question.
> You say that it was a Boeing, and you say it was a 757 or 767?
> 7-5-7.
> 757, which, of course..
> American Airlines.
> American Airlines, one of the new generation of jets.
> Right. It was so close to me it was like looking out my window and
> looking at a helicopter. It was just right there. . .
>
http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0109/11/bn.32.html . .
>
> -----------------------------
> A CNN on-the-sight reporter was interviewed by a fellow from CNN :
>
> You got a close-up look at the damage, didn't you?
> Yes, I was right next to the building.
> And what did you see?
> I saw a big, gaping hole and I could see pieces of the plane inside.
> Earlier, an eye-witness told us the plane didn't crash into the
> building.
> Well, I don't know what it looked like from where he was, but I
> looked right inside the hole and I know it crashed into the building.
>
http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/war/spin.htm>
> -----------------------------
> . Christopher Munsey, Navy Times reporter , was en route to work.
> ". . I couldn't believe what I was now seeing to my right: A silver,
> twin-engine American Airlines jetliner gliding almost noiselessly over
> the Navy Annex, fast, low and straight toward the Pentagon, just
> hundreds of yards away.
> The plane, with red and blue markings, hurtled by and within moments
> exploded in a ground-shaking "whoomp,"
>
http://www.navytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-467181.php>
>
> -----------------------------
> . John O'Keefe, 25-year-old Northern Virginia commuter, managing
> editor of Influence, an American Lawyer Media publication about
> lobbying was "not much more than a football field away" on
> ". saw or heard it first -- this silver plane; I immediately
> recognized it as an American Airlines jet,"
> "It came swooping in over the highway, over my left shoulder,
> straight across where my car was heading.
>
http://www.nylawyer.com/news/01/09/091201l.html>
> -----------------------------
> . Joel Sucherman, USAToday.com Multimedia Editor, saw it all: an
> American Airlines jetliner fly left to right across his field of
> vision as he commuted to work Tuesday morning.
> It was highly unusual. The large plane was 20 feet off the ground
> and a mere 50 to 75 yards from his windshield. Two seconds later and
> before he could see if the landing gear was down or any of the horror-
> struck faces inside, the plane slammed into the west wall of the
> Pentagon 100 yards away.
> "My first thought was he's not going to make it across the river to
> National Airport. But whoever was flying the plane made no attempt to
> change direction. It was coming in at a high rate of speed, but not at
> a steep angle--almost like a heat-seeking missile was locked onto its
> target and staying dead on course."
>
http://www.eweek.com/article/0,3658,s%253D704%2526a%253D15161,00.asp> "it came screaming across the highway, route 110"
> Was it a commercial jet? Do you know how many engines?
> "I did not see the engines, I saw the body and the tail; it was a
> silver jet with the markings along the windows that spoke to me as an
> American Airlines jet, it was not a commercial, excuse me, a business
> jet, it was not a lear jet, it was a bigger plane than that.".
>
> -----------------------------
> . Omar Campo, a Salvadorean, was cutting the grass on the other side
> of the road when the plane flew over his head.
> "It was a passenger plane. I think an American Airways plane," Mr
> Campo said. "I was cutting the grass and it came in screaming over my
> head.
>
> A woman driver wanting to exit from Interstate 395 saw "a commercial
> plane that came in and was coming too fast and too low and the next
> thing we saw was it go down below the side of the road and we just saw
> the fire.."
>
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/trade.center/day.video.09.html>
> -----------------------------
> Brig. Gen. Clyde A. Vaughn, deputy director of military support to
> civil authorities.
> was returning to the Pentagon Sept. 11 returned urgently from a
> meeting, north along Interstate 395 . While exiting the ramp to the
> Pentagon he "was scanning the air. There wasn't anything in the air,
> except for one airplane, and it looked like it was loitering over
> Georgetown, in a high, left-hand bank," he said. "That may have been
> the plane. I have never seen one on that (flight) pattern."
>
http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/09/13/pentagon.terrorism> He pulled his car over and sprinted toward the gaping, flaming hole
> "It took me four to five minutes to get there,"
>
http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/0901/091401kp1.htm>
http://www.dtic.mil/armylink/news/Sep2001/a20010919fireheroes.html>
> -----------------------------
> Mark Bright, was the first security officer to arrive at the scene,
> having actually seen the plane hit the building while manning the
> guard booth at the Mall Entrance.
> "I saw the plane at the Navy Annex area,"
> "I knew it was going to strike the building because it was very,
> very low -- at the height of the street lights. It knocked a couple down."
> He said he heard the plane "power-up" just before it struck the
> Pentagon.
>
>
http://www.dcmilitary.com/marines/hendersonhall/6_39/local_news/10797-1.> html
>
> -----------------------------
> Alan Wallace, a 55 year old Fort Myer firefighter was standing with
> fellow fire-fighter Mark Skipper, about 200 feet away from the
> catastrophe, standing outside their fire station. They bath suffered
> first and second degree burns.
>
http://www.msnbc.com/news/635293.asp> Wallace described a white airplane with orange and blue trim,
> heading almost straight at them. "When I felt the fire, I hit the ground,"
>
http://detnews.com/2001/nation/0109/11/nation-291261.htm> "I just happened to look up and see the plane. It was about 200
> yards away, and was coming in low and fast. I told Mark that we needed
> to get the hell out of there."
> Dennis Young, a third fireman at the scene, but inside the fire
> house, had been one of the first to respond when a Canadian C-130
> crashed near Fairbanks, Alaska in 1989.
> "I knew from past experience that it was a plane crash."
> www.iaff.org/across/news/archives/102401local.html
>
> -----------------------------
> At a media briefing, Pentagon spokeswoman Torie Clark told the story
> of Capt. Lincoln Liebner, who was outside the Pentagon when the blast
> took place. He rushed into the building to help. His hands were
> burned, and after he was taken away to a hospital for treatment, he
> returned later in the day to do more.
>
> . Captain Lincoln Liebner, was parking his car at the moment of
> attack:
> 'I saw this large American Airlines passenger jet coming in fast
> and low,' said Army Captain Lincoln Liebner.
> 'We got one guy out of the fire truck cab,' he said, adding he
> could hear people crying inside the wreckage.
>
>
http://straitstimes.asia1.com.sg/mnt/html/webspecial/WTC/wtcnews15.html> "I saw this large American Airlines passenger jet coming in fast
> and low,"
> "My first thought was I've never seen one that high. Before it hit I
> realised what was happening,
> Captain Liebner says the aircraft struck a helicopter on the
> helipad, setting fire to a fire truck.
> We got one guy out of the cab," he said, adding he could hear people
> crying inside the wreckage.
> Captain Liebner, who had cuts on his hands from the debris, says he
> has been parking his car in the car park when the crash occurred.""
>
http://abc.net.au/news/2001/09/item20010911230953_1.htm>
> -----------------------------
> . Alfred S. Regnery, president and publisher of Regnery Publishing,
> Inc., a sister company of Human Events saw
> ". . a jetliner, apparently at full throttle and not more than a
> couple of hundred yards above the ground, screamed overhead."
>
http://www.humanevents.org/articles/09-17-01/regnery.html>
> -----------------------------
> . Mike Walter, 46, USA Today reporter, said
> "I was sitting in the northbound on 27 and the traffic was, you
> know, typical rush- hour -- it had ground to a standstill. I looked
> out my window and I saw this plane, this jet, an American Airlines jet, coming.
> And I thought, 'This doesn't add up, it's really low.'
> And I saw it. I mean it was like a cruise missile with wings. It
> went right there and slammed right into the Pentagon."
>
http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/09/11/attack.in.their.words>
> -----------------------------
> Sergeant Maurice L. Bease had worked around Marine aviation long
> enough to know what a fly-by was, and it sounded like one as he stood
> outside his office near the Pentagon on Sept. 11. Turning around
> expecting to see a fighter jet fly over, he saw only a split-second
> glimpse of a white commercial airliner streaking low toward the
> building, and him! He did not even have time to duck before it plowed
> into the side of the Pentagon around the corner and about 200 yards
> from where he stood.
> Report by Maj Fred H. Allison, USMCR (Ret):
>
http://www.mca-marines.org/Leatherneck/nov01pentagonarch.htm>
> -----------------------------
> . Afework Hagos, 26, of Arlington, is a computer programmer, a
> consultant for Nextel. On his way to work he was stuck in a traffic
> jam on Columbia Pike, near the Pentagon when the plane flew over.
> "There was a huge screaming noise and I got out of the car as the
> plane came over. Everybody was running away in different directions.
> It was tilting its wings up and down like it was trying to balance. It
> hit some lampposts on the way in."
>
http://www.guardian.co.uk/wtccrash/story/0,1300,550486,00.html> . He saw a plane flying very low and close to nearby buildings. "I
> thought something was coming down on me. I know this plane is going to
> crash. I've never seen a plane like this so low."
> He said he looked at it and saw American Airline insignia and when
> it made impact with the Pentagon initially he saw smoke, then flames.
>
>
http://a188.g.akamaitech.net/f/188/920/5m/www.washingtonpost.com/wp-sr> v/
> metro/daily/sep01/attack.html
>
> -----------------------------
> Dave Winslow, AP Radio Reporter lives across the street. He saw
> ."the tail of a large airliner ."
>
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Print/0,3858,4254882,00.html>
> -----------------------------
> Eugenio Hernandez, an AP video journalist, was driving by the
> Pentagon and saw the plane crashing. He borrowed a tourist's video
> camera began shooting.
>
>
http://www.apbroadcast.com/AP+Broadcast/about+us/miscellaneous/in+the+> ne
> ws.htm
>
> -----------------------------
> Christine Peterson, '73 found herself in the thick of last month's
> terrorist tragedy, and submitted this report:
> ". . I was at a complete stop on the road in front of the helipad
> at the Pentagon; what I had thought would be a shortcut was as slow as
> the other routes I had taken that morning. I looked idly out my window
> to the left
> --
> and saw a plane flying so low I said, "holy cow, that plane is going
> to hit my car" (not my actual words). The car shook as the plane flew
> over. It was so close that I could read the numbers under the wing."
>
http://www.naualumni.com/News/News.cfm?ID=613&c=4>
> -----------------------------
> Fred Gaskins, was driving to his job as a national editor at USA
> TODAY near the Pentagon when the plane passed about 150 feet overhead.
> "(The plane) was flying fast and low and the Pentagon was the
> obvious target, It was flying very smoothly and calmly, without any
> hint that anything was wrong."
>
> . Aydan Kizildrgli, an English language student who is a native of
> Turkey, saw the jetliner bank slightly.
>
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2001/09/11/attack-usat.htm>
> -----------------------------
> . Kirk Milburn, a construction supervisor for Atlantis Co. was on
> the Arlington National Cemetery exit of Interstate 395.
> "I was right underneath the plane. I heard a plane. I saw it. I saw
> debris flying. I guess it was hitting light poles. It was like a
> WHOOOSH whoosh, then there was fire and smoke, then I heard a second explosion."
> Steve Patterson, is a graphics artist who works at home.in a
> 14th-floor apartment in Pentagon City. While watching events unfold on
> TV he saw a silver commuter jet fly past his window about 150 yards
> away, approaching from the west about 20 feet off the ground,
> He said it appeared to him that a commuter jet which appeared to
> hold about eight to 12 people, headed straight for the Pentagon but
> was flying as if coming in for a landing on a nonexistent runway.
> The plane, which sounded like the high-pitched squeal of a fighter
> jet, flew over Arlington cemetary so low that he thought it was going
> to land on I-395.
> "at a frightening rate .,.,. just slicing into that building." He
> saw bright orange flames shoot out the back of the building.
> John Damoose, a Travis City, Mich. native who was in a meeting said
> "everybody got nervous. .,.,. We didn't know whether to stay inside or
> go outside. The thing with terrorist attacks is that you don't know
> what is the next thing that will happen."
> He said the worst part was leaving the Pentagon and walking along
> Fort Meyer Drive, a bike trail, "you could see pieces of the plane."
>
>
http://a188.g.akamaitech.net/f/188/920/5m/www.washingtonpost.com/wp-sr> v/
> metro/daily/sep01/attack.html
>
> -----------------------------
> Father Stephen McGraw was driving to a graveside service at
> Arlington national Cemetery. McGraw estimates that the plane passed
> about 20 feet over his car, as he waited on the northbound side of
> Washington Boulevard.
> "I was in the left hand lane with my windows closed. I did not hear
> anything at all until the plane was just right above our cars."
> "The plane clipped the top of a light pole just before it got to us,
> injuring a taxi driver, whose taxi was just a few feet away from my car.
>
>
http://www.dcmilitary.com/army/pentagram/6_39/local_news/10772-1.html>
>
http://www.mdw.army.mil/news/Pentagon_crash_eyewitness_comforted_victi> ms
> .html
>
> -----------------------------
> Allen Cleveland of Woodbridge Virginia looked out from a Metro train
> going to National Airport, to see a jet heading down toward the
> Pentagon.
> "I thought, 'There's no landing strip on that side of the subway
> tracks,' " Before he could process that thought, he saw "a huge
> mushroom cloud. A lady staThe lady next to me was in absolute hysterics."
> " . . a silver pasenger jet, mid sized"
>
>
http://mfile.akamai.com/920/rm/thepost.download.akamai.com/920/nation/> 09
> 1101-5s.ram
>
http://www.newsbytes.com/news/01/170005.html>
> Meseidy Rodriguez confirms "it was a mid size plane".
>
> -----------------------------
> Oscar Martinez ``.. saw a big jet flying close to the building
> coming at full speed. There was a big noise when it hit the
> building,'' said , who witnessed the attack.
>
http://www.firehouse.com/terrorist/11_APdc.html>
> -----------------------------
> Ron Turner, the Navy's deputy chief information officer, was
> standing at a funeral at Arlington National Cemetery:
> "There was a huge fireball, followed by the
black cloud of a
> fuel burn."
> "It reminded me of being back in Vietnam, watching Tan Son Nhut Air
> Base burn."
> http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/0901/091301j3.htm
>
> -----------------------------
> ARFF fire Crews reported fires on every floor of the "D" and "E"
> rings. The aircraft had penetrated all the way to the "C" ring.
> "The only way you could tell that an aircraft was inside was that we
> saw pieces of the nose gear.
>
> http://www.nfpa.org/NFPAJournal/OnlineExclusive/Exclusive_11_01_01/exc
> lu
> sive_11.01.01.asp
>
> -----------------------------
> State Department employee Ken Ford,said he watched from the 15th
> floor of the State Department Annex,just across the Potomac River from
> the Pentagon.
> We were watching the airport through binoculars, Ford said,
> referring to Reagan National Airport, a short distance away. The plane
> was a two-engine turbo prop that flew up the river from National. Then
> it turned back toward the Pentagon. We thought it had been waved off
> and then it hit the building.
> Daniel and Cynthia McAdams said they were sitting in heir kitchen
> drinking coffee in their third-floor condominium in Arlington,Va.,
> just two miles from the Pentagon when they heard a plane fly directly
> over head around 9:45 a.m. It was unusually loud and low.
>
> http://www.delawareonline.com/newsjournal/local/2001/09/pdf/09112001EX
> TR
> A2.pdf
> http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/world/2001/0912/wor5.htm
>
> -----------------------------
> Steve Riskus, fortuitously on scene photographer wrote:
> 2I took these pictures less then 1 minutes after I watched the
> american airlines 757 airplane crash into the pentagon on September 11
> 2001. I left shortly after the picture were taken in fear of further
> attacks.
> Feel free to contact me anytime if you have questions about my
> pictures.
> I did acctually see the plane impact the building."
> http://www.criticalthrash.com/terror/crashthumbnails.html
>
> -----------------------------
> Mickey Bell, an electrical contractor's foreman was working to
> renovate the second and third floors. Outside, and less than 100 feet
> from the initial impact of the plane, he was very nearly struck by one
> of the wings as they sped by him. He had just left the project trailer
> (that exploded) when he heard a loud noise. The next thing he recalled
> was picking himself off the floor, where he had been thrown by the
> blast.
> He got into his truck, parked in the trailer compound, and sped away.
> Plastic and rivets from an airplane were later found imbedded in its
> sheet metal
> http://www.necanet.org/whats_new/report.cfm?ID=1003:
>
> http://www.ecmag.com/industrynews/index.cfm?fuseaction=view&art_id=1115
> "We went out to look at his truck and the truckbed was filled with
> all kinds of debris that must have come from the blast. He's one
> really lucky guy,"
>
> -----------------------------
> Wayne T. Day, President of ' Kirlin', Rockville MD, says
> "We had one guy who was standing, looking out the window and saw the
> plane when it was coming in. He was in front of one of the blast-
> resistant windows,"
> http://www.designbuildmag.com/oct2001/pentagon1001.asp
>
> -----------------------------
> Steve Snaman, manager of the datacom division for Walker Seals,
> watched from Fort McNair (across the river) as the jetliner came in
> low at full throttle, banked left and smashed into the wall of the Pentagon.
>
> http://www.ecmag.com/industrynews/index.cfm?fuseaction=view&art_id=111
> 7
>
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