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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 09:57 PM
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THEY KNEW THE TARGETS
Edited on Sun Jan-06-08 10:12 PM by seemslikeadream
This is Jersey Girl Patty Casazza talking about the significance of Sibel Edmonds' testimony




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-owdhJK5nk



The story is on the front page of The Sunday Times,

For sale: West’s deadly nuclear secrets
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article3137695.ece?Submitted=true



Sibel Edmonds and other Whistleblowers Group
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=344


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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 11:11 PM
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1. Why are you lying about this story being in the Sunday Times?
Knowing the time and date and targets of the 9/11 attack is most definitely NOT in that article.
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End Of The Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 01:57 PM
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6. well if you go to the link
It takes you to Times Online, and says article is from Sunday Times Jan. 6.

What's the problem?
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 12:50 AM
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2. Poor journalism, seemslikeadream. nt
Edited on Mon Jan-07-08 01:08 AM by greyl
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:49 PM
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14. THIS IS POOR JOURNALISM
Edited on Mon Jan-07-08 05:32 PM by seemslikeadream







"Coincidence Theory: By shear chance things just happen repeatedly and coincidentally to benefit their interests without any conscious connivance by them, which is most uncanny. There is also: Stupidity Theory, Innocence Theory, Momentary Aberration Theory, Incompetence Theory, Unintended Consequences Theory and Innocent Cultural Proclivities Theory."


- Michael Parenti
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:05 PM
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23. Are you a journalist, greyl?
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 12:27 PM
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3. Pay the anti-truthers no mind.........
They are just sheople who rely on broadcast media and/or government education to formulate their perceptions and often roll their eyes in exasperation and conspiracy-nut-contempt when exposed to reliable information that challenges their beliefs.
Thanks for the post. Wish I could recommend
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 12:55 PM
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4. Sunday Times Front Page...
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CGowen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 02:05 PM
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7. type in www.sunday-times.co.uk and you land on www.timesonline.co.uk
Edited on Mon Jan-07-08 02:16 PM by CGowen
There you'll find a link to this story under latest, so it's on the frontpage of the online edition.





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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 02:33 PM
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9. I think your interpretation of ...
"The story is on the front page of The Sunday Times" is different, and significantly looser, than mine.

Wouldn't it have been more accurate to say something like "the story is linked from the homepage of The Times online"?

Sid

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End Of The Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 02:46 PM
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11. wouldn't it be more productive
to quit splitting hairs and read the frigging article so that we may move on?
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:12 PM
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16. They just love the DIVERGE
Edited on Mon Jan-07-08 05:31 PM by seemslikeadream
IT'S THEIR STYLE



"Coincidence Theory: By shear chance things just happen repeatedly and coincidentally to benefit their interests without any conscious connivance by them, which is most uncanny. There is also: Stupidity Theory, Innocence Theory, Momentary Aberration Theory, Incompetence Theory, Unintended Consequences Theory and Innocent Cultural Proclivities Theory."


- Michael Parenti
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:25 PM
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17. Looks more like attempts to discredit the original poster
I understood what you meant, SLaD. Thanks for posting this.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:28 PM
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Hi Hope I just came across this great quote from Parenti




"Coincidence Theory: By shear chance things just happen repeatedly and coincidentally to benefit their interests without any conscious connivance by them, which is most uncanny. There is also: Stupidity Theory, Innocence Theory, Momentary Aberration Theory, Incompetence Theory, Unintended Consequences Theory and Innocent Cultural Proclivities Theory."


- Michael Parenti
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:34 PM
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26. This quote made me laugh out loud!
THANK YOU!
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:46 PM
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13. ..
Edited on Mon Jan-07-08 05:32 PM by seemslikeadream







"Coincidence Theory: By shear chance things just happen repeatedly and coincidentally to benefit their interests without any conscious connivance by them, which is most uncanny. There is also: Stupidity Theory, Innocence Theory, Momentary Aberration Theory, Incompetence Theory, Unintended Consequences Theory and Innocent Cultural Proclivities Theory."


- Michael Parenti
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:28 PM
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19. You heard them, Sid
Stop splitting hairs over things like facts, when there's twoof to be had.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 08:44 PM
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25. Yup, never let the facts get in the way of a good story...
that could be a slogan for the truth movement.

Sid
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:08 PM
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15. FRONT PAGE!
Edited on Mon Jan-07-08 05:31 PM by seemslikeadream
"A WHISTLEBLOWER has made a series of extraordinary claims about how corrupt government officials allowed Pakistan and other states to steal nuclear weapons secrets," reports Great Britain's Sunday Times in the lede of their front page exclusive, headlined "For sale: West’s deadly nuclear secrets."



http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5518

TAKE IT UP WITH BRAD




"Coincidence Theory: By shear chance things just happen repeatedly and coincidentally to benefit their interests without any conscious connivance by them, which is most uncanny. There is also: Stupidity Theory, Innocence Theory, Momentary Aberration Theory, Incompetence Theory, Unintended Consequences Theory and Innocent Cultural Proclivities Theory."


- Michael Parenti
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 08:43 PM
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24. So, you're just reposting someone else's error...
Edited on Mon Jan-07-08 09:34 PM by SidDithers
don't you take responsibility for the content that you post? Perhaps you should focus more on quality than quantity.

You'd think accuracy and attention to detail would be important to a movement trying to identify itself with "truth".

Sid


"These people (in the 9/11 truth movement) use the "reverse scientific method"; they determine what happened, throw out all the data that doesn't fit their conclusion, and then hail their findings as the only possible conclusion."


Thomas W. Eagar, the Thomas Lord Professor of Materials Engineering and Engineering Systems, MIT


Edit speeling & added quote
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 01:00 PM
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5. What was the point in making things up in your post, slad?
Such as saying that the story was in the Sunday Times, and on its front page, when none of things are true. I'd love to know what's going on inside your head.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 02:27 PM
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8. Edmonds story is in the Sunday Times
even if apparently not on the front page.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article3137695.ece?Submitted=true

Lots of stuff: cross-infiltration of intel services, auction of nuclear secrets to bidders, Turkey possibly used as conduit for ISI money, post-9/11 U.S. letting suspects go lest they "spill the beans" (which beans unspecified), FBI investigators aware of illegal govt. activities but covering up "not to endanger" foreign relations, etc. Also mentions Mahmud Ahmed and the $100,000 wire transfer.
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 02:44 PM
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10. I saw that
but the story didn't say anything about "they knew the targets" which is why I felt the OP was deceptive.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 02:57 PM
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12. Maybe he suffers from the same occasional vagueness
as you display in your own post.
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:25 PM
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18. vague in what way?
"They knew the targets" was her title, and she linked to a Times article that said nothing about that. Seems pretty dishonest to me.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:29 PM
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20. No the first link was to the video where it was said
Edited on Mon Jan-07-08 05:31 PM by seemslikeadream
by Patty Casazza


"Coincidence Theory: By shear chance things just happen repeatedly and coincidentally to benefit their interests without any conscious connivance by them, which is most uncanny. There is also: Stupidity Theory, Innocence Theory, Momentary Aberration Theory, Incompetence Theory, Unintended Consequences Theory and Innocent Cultural Proclivities Theory."


- Michael Parenti
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:41 PM
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21. But Patty Casazza, in that instance, is repeating the bullshit fed to her
by unknown sources, possibly from the side of the road, while Patty and others were pressing the US Government for answers.

When the police show up in disguise and start throwing rocks in the middle of a peaceful protest, you know how to scream Fraud.

When the CIA shows up on the side of the road and fills Patty Casazza's head with bullshit, you play lying games to get it onto the front page of DU.

What's the difference? IT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO HEAR.

The instant progressive conspiracy theorists begin seriously questioning people who tell them what they want to hear, I lose my entire purpose here in this forum.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:44 PM
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22. ....




"Coincidence Theory: By shear chance things just happen repeatedly and coincidentally to benefit their interests without any conscious connivance by them, which is most uncanny. There is also: Stupidity Theory, Innocence Theory, Momentary Aberration Theory, Incompetence Theory, Unintended Consequences Theory and Innocent Cultural Proclivities Theory."


- Michael Parenti
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 06:19 PM
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27. kick! n/t
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