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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 08:12 PM
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CIA Hid Other Tapes from 911 Commission.
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"We know now that the CIA kept from the 9/11 Commission tapes of al Qaeda suspects in violation of law. But why isn't mainstream media (MSM) reporting about other tapes U.S. Intelligence kept from the 9/11 Commission?"

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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 09:48 PM
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1. What evidence is there that the Osama speech and the "Laughing Hitchhikers" tape
were withheld from the 9/11 Commission?
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 03:33 AM
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2. they couldn't possibly keep anything secret from the 9-11 Commission
don't you read this forum? there are no conspiracies and any conspiracy is doomed to fail because it could not be kept secret.

sheesh!
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 05:39 AM
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4. I didn't say that.
I said, what evidence is there that these tapes (or this tape) was kept from them? That's what the OP article said happened, but there is no evidence presented in the article that this was the case.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 01:40 PM
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6. they couldn't possibly keep a secret
so the whole thing doesn't even exist.
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 02:01 PM
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7. Your answer amounts to a non-answer.
You do understand that the article makes a claim in its title, and yet does nothing to prove that claim? Have you read the article?

Look at it. It says quite a lot. It examines the tape to show that it is US surveillance. However, we have the tape from the US and the freezeframes could have been added after the recovery of the tape from Afghanistan. We don't have the original, in other words, but the original exists without freezeframes. That's quite possible.

The article also makes noise that the tape was used at Guantanamo. Well, that's not inconsistent with the tape being recovered in Afghanistan.

And none of that is proof or suggestive evidence that this tape was withheld from the 9/11 Commission. It is simply stated. I'm asking, where's the proof?
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mrgerbik Donating Member (652 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 03:52 AM
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3. its the same old, same old isnt it... n/t
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 07:51 AM
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5. Actually the CIA withheld ALL tapes from the 9/11 Commission
Edited on Mon Jan-14-08 07:52 AM by HamdenRice
In fact, Tenet never disclosed to the Commission that any tapes existed. That's the main argument Kean and Hamilton make that Tenet and the CIA obstructed their investigation.

Keep in mind that all of these withheld tape scandals only developed when the press and officials outside the CIA first became aware that there were any tapes whatsoever.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/02/opinion/02kean.html

Stonewalled by the C.I.A.

By THOMAS H. KEAN and LEE H. HAMILTON
Published: January 2, 2008

...But the recent revelations that the C.I.A. destroyed videotaped interrogations of Qaeda operatives leads us to conclude that the agency failed to respond to our lawful requests for information about the 9/11 plot. Those who knew about those videotapes — and did not tell us about them — obstructed our investigation.

There could have been absolutely no doubt in the mind of anyone at the C.I.A. — or the White House — of the commission’s interest in any and all information related to Qaeda detainees involved in the 9/11 plot. Yet no one in the administration ever told the commission of the existence of videotapes of detainee interrogations.

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