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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 03:37 PM
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Are the cut internet cables a prelude to a false flag attack?
http://www.i-newswire.com/pr148510.html

(I-Newswire) - Multiple reports that internet cables connecting Iran to the rest of the world have been “cut” are raising suspicions in the minds of experts on 9/11 that something serious may be in the works. According to James H. Fetzer, founder of Scholars for 9/11 Truth, “Prior to 9/11, the FBI—our own FBI—shut down Arab Muslim web sites ( whatreallyhappened.com/fbishsut ). Some of us fear that internet access may have been deliberately severed to isolate Iran and make it difficult to communicate in response to a ‘false flag’ attack in the United States, possibly during the Super Bowl, an attack upon Iran, or both.”

“False flag” attacks are conducted by a government against targets, including its own citizens, in order to blame an enemy and justify taking action against it. The BBC is among the sources reporting these cables have been cut ( “New Cable Cut Compounds Net Woes,” http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7222536.stm , but others are easily accessible via google. One of these cables is near Alexandria, Egypt. Another is near Dubai. “That cables in the Mediterranean Sea and the Persial Gulf should happen to be severed in close proximity without a common cause defies belief,” observed Fetzer, a philosoper of science. “That there now appear to be four interruptions cannot be just a matter of chance. This has to be deliberate. The ominous question is, ‘Why?’”

An analysis now making its way across the internet is being attributed to Sio Bibble, who concludes, “A communications disruption can mean only one thing—invasion.” On his scenario, American military radio chatter during the game could provide cover for other communications taking place. “03:00 and the troops are up, file into the mess to get a cup of coffee, sandwich and watch the game,” Bibble writes. “Meanwhile, an Israeli sub in the Gulf goes to Battle Station alert. The game starts, the troops go wild, they get pumped with adrenalin and into combative psychic. 10 minutes into the game, a micro-nuke goes off in the stadium. The aforementioned sub commander gets the signal and launches his surface to surface missiles at various Iranian sites and several American ships.”

“The sailors on the ships are stunned by what they see on the TV screen,” he continues, “then the Claxton horn goes off as American ships start taking hits. The ships go live, the Iranians go live. American sources declare a surprise Iranian attack as three American ships sink in the Gulf. The smoldering Super Bowl is blamed on Iran, Mom and Apple Pie need to be defended.” According to Fetzer, no matter how fantastic this might sound to those who have never studied 9/11, it is an appealing alternative for an administration that has run out of options and whose leader is widely regarded by the American public as the worst president in history. It could reverse his standing at a single masterstroke.

“To most Americans, this is going to sound far-fetched,” said James H. Fetzer, founder of Scholars for 9/11 Truth ( 911scholars.org ) and co-host of “The Dynamic Duo,” an internet talk show he shares with Kevin Barrett, a noted 9/11 activist. “Those of us who study 9/11 on the basis of the objective principles of scientific reasoning have found powerful proof that virtually everything we have been told about 9/11 by the administration is not true. The question has to be asked, ‘Who benefits?’ The result has been the loss of civil liberties, wars of aggression in violation of international law, the UN Charter, and the US Constitution. Bush signs statements to circumvent Congress and governs like a dictator.”

Billions upon billions has gone in the form of no-bid contracts to favored companies like Halliburton and Blackwater. “There are many studies that support the conclusion that 9/11 was ‘an inside job’,” Fetzer said. These include The New Pearl Harbor ( 2004 ), The 9/11 Commission Report ( 2005 ), and Debunking 9/11 Debunking ( 2007 ) by David Ray Griffin, Inside Job ( 2004 ) and The Terror Conspiracy ( 2006 ), by Jim Marrs, and 9/11 Synthetic Terror: Made in the USA ( 2005 ) by Webster Griffin Tarpley. “But if 9/11 was an inside job, as more and more evidence suggests,” Fetzer said, “it would be very naïve to ignore the very serious prospect of having a reprise to reverse the sagging fortunes of the Bush administration and to enhance support for hawkish candidates for president.”

There are also indications of previous plans. A former Army intelligence officer detected evidence that a “false flag” operation was being conducted against the British Petrolium refinery in Texas City, Texas, on January 31, 2006, just over two years ago. Capt. Eric May, a former NBC editorial writer whose political and military analyses have appeared in The Wall Street Journal, The Houston Chronicle, and Military Intelligence Magazine, issued a series of warnings that appeared in thepriceofliberty.org, an internet web site. Several signs that he was correct were discovered by the mainstream press, which published reports within two days of arrival of the Bush administration’s nuclear response team. This target is in the district of presidential candidate Ron Paul ( R ).

In a recent column about this incident, “The 1/31 Nuke: Proof for Ron Paul”, which is archived at www.thepriceofliberty.org/08/01/28/May.htm, he has provided links to the original articles from which the following quotes are taken. Galveston County Daily News reporter T.J. Aulds, for example, had long been suspicious of the repeated explosions at the BP refinery, the nation's most toxic industrial site. In an article published on February 2, 2006, he wrote, “If you are reading this, you survived a predicted nuclear attack on Texas City.”
 Explaining that alarms had been sounded from internet sources, he said, “That attack was to have taken place Tuesday, based on those reports. A report filed on The Arctic Beacon website as well as the site owner’s Internet radio show had warned of a pending nuclear attack on the city—not from terrorists, but the federal government.”



His own reporting, moreover, appeared to confirm it. “On Wednesday, people driving along Galveston’s Seawall Boulevard could see unmarked black trucks and sport utility vehicles bearing government license plates near crews setting up what appeared to be satellite or radar gear on the beach. . . . The crews were wearing shirts embossed with the words, ‘Weapons of Mass Destruction Civil Support Team,’ a branch of the U.S. Defense Department.”
Even an experienced reporter found this disconcerting. “It was enough to get even the most timid conspiracy theorist thinking something was up.”

Greg Szymanski, a noted investigative journalist, wrote a gripping series of articles for The Arctic Beacon. The articles began the week before the predicted 1/31 federal false flag attempt. Rather than rely on Bush administration officials, he turned to reputable Texas City insiders, especially a British Petrolium employee and a local minister. He wrote:

Jan. 25, 2006: All Signposts Lead To Imminent Nuclear Attack In America: Intel Army Capt. Eric May Issues ‘Red Alert’ For Next 9 Days For Texas City-Houston Area. Capt. May claims to have broken the Illuminati and Bush Cabal's “embedded code” in an effort to beat the neocons at their own nasty game.

Jan. 26, 2006: Houston PD Running Nuclear Disaster Drills As Build-Up Of Numerous Law Enforcement Agencies Seen In Nearby Texas City. Army Intel Capt. Eric May warns Bush cabal days away from a nuclear strike. Texas City resident “opens up a hornet's nest” as he warns local law enforcement about the possibility of nuclear strike.

Jan. 28, 2006: Texas City British Petroleum Claims No Foul Play In 2005 Explosion Killing 15; BP Sets Aside $1 Billion For Upgrades Amid Rumors Neocons Plan To Nuke Plant In Upcoming Days. Some Texas City citizens taking nuke warning seriously as local law enforcement build-up seen and at least 400 employees moved out of BP to different office building.

Feb. 3, 2006: Texas City British Petroleum Employee Heard "Strange Abort Signal" on Local Radio Station The Morning Army Intel Officer Predicted Nuclear Strike At Plant. BP employee also said “other strange events” occurred, leaving her “nervous and on edge.” Galveston Daily News follows up with story, finding WMD military support team was conducting a training session at a location near Texas City.

Captain May was encouraged by citizens who read his recent columns about false flag attempts in the East Texas oil patch to contact Congressman Ron Paul with the details. A fair number of them believe that it was the Bush administration's design on his own Texas Congressional District 14 that prompted his presidential bid. Some have tried to contact the Congressman, but thus far to no avail. May has noticed a pattern that has developed in relation to the selection of targets for attacks, including New York City in New York, Oklahoma City in Oklahoma, and now Texas City in Texas. “Anticipating what they are going to do next is not rocket science,” he observed, “but it requires the exercise of a great deal of patience and attention to detail. Let us hope that we will be as successful in thwarting other attacks by our own government as we were in this instance.”

Fetzer has featured Captain May as his guest on “The Dynamic Duo” several times and takes his analyses seriously. “I wish I could tell you that he’s wrong, but the evidence we have discovered about 9/11 suggests that this administration has no scruples when it comes to sacrificing innocent lives to advance its political agenda.” This is not the first time that students of 9/11 have suspected a reprise might be in the works, probably one involving the use of nuclear weapons. On August 26, 2007, Webster Griffin Tarpley issued ‘The Kennebunkport Warning’ that there were signs the administration planned to conduct another ‘false flag’ operation and suspend the Constitution. Captain May has previously sounded alarms about a possible attack near Portland, Oregon, late last year. An attack on the Super Bowl and retaliation against Iran would dwarf these attempts.

Barrett, who has closely followed May’s research, also believes that these signs have to be taken seriously. “In the Texas City, Texas, case, even the mainstream media reported indications that strange events were in the works, including unmarked black trucks and sport utility vehicles bearing government license plates near crews setting up what appeared to be satellite or radar gear on the beach, and the crews were wearing shirts that said, ‘Weapons of Mass Destruction Civil Support Team.’ We may have been very lucky that Captain May sounded the alarm,” Barrett said. “My impression is that Eric May is one of the bravest and most eloquent intelligence analysts in the United States today. It is regrettable his state of health has deteriorated to the point that we are not going to be able to count on his research much longer.” Barrett, like Fetzer, takes the extreme improbability of multiple cable cuts as a sign that something serious is afoot.

Barrett is a member of Scholars, the founder of the Muslim-Jewish-Christian Alliance for 9/11 Truth, co-editor of 9/11 & American Empire: Christians, Jews, and Muslims Speak Out ( 2006 ), and the author of Truth Jihad ( 2007 ). Fetzer is the editor of The 9/11 Conspiracy ( 2007 ), the first book from Scholars. The DVD of the Scholars’ conference, “The Science and the Politics of 9/11”, which he organized and moderated in Madison, Wisconsin, August 4-5, 2007, has just been released ( http://911scholars.org/ ).

James H. Fetzer
Scholars for 9/11 Truth
http://www.i-newswire.com/pr148510.html



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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 03:47 PM
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1. People who make their living off of paranoia are paranoid.
Yawn.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 03:51 PM
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2. lol
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 04:41 PM
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5. 4th CABLE CUT!
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 04:45 PM
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7. The 4th cable wasn't cut.
Please read your links.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 04:51 PM
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8. So does this mean the first three cables were cut?
Within a few days of each other: By what? Random sharks, or human agency? If the latter, does it mean something? Does it have a function? Unlike Fetzer, I won't pretend I know, only that some one actor is very likely to be responsible, that this is an attack of some kind and has a motive of some kind. Can you go as far as that, or do you have a different surmise?
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 04:58 PM
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9. Edit: Ships don't appear to be the cause
Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 05:07 PM by boloboffin
Edit: Since repair ships are not able to get to the third and the fourth due to heavy storms in the area, it could be damage from the storms. Also, see below.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 06:22 PM
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12. YES WE CAN! YES WE CAN! YES WE CAN!
Get out of the dungeon some day!


:P
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 06:30 PM
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13. YOU NEED FACTS! YOU NEED FACTS! YOU NEED FACTS!
Simple, really.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 07:33 PM
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14. The better paranoid theory on this is...

The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) is meeting in Delhi next week. Cutting off a bunch of internet policy makers for a week would be a hoot.

There are always satlinks, but the delay is undesirable.

If you don't hear from me after the 8th, send the black helicopters. Heh.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 11:54 PM
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15. Will Do. I was sort of wondering what the heck
I was gonna do with all of 'em lurching around the back yard.

The neighbors have been complaining that the noise ruined the Super Bowl parties.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 06:08 AM
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19. Meh...

We had a brief power failure in the hotel one afternoon. Other than that, the internet worked fine.
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salvorhardin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 04:09 PM
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3. The Governor of Naboo says it's an invasion of Iran?
An analysis now making its way across the internet is being attributed to Sio Bibble, who concludes, “A communications disruption can mean only one thing—invasion.”
http://www.i-newswire.com/pr148510.html


Oh my. Now I'm convinced.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:09 PM
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25. Any word on what
Jar-Jar Binks has to say on the subject?

:shrug:
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CGowen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 04:39 PM
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4. Ships did not cause Internet cable damage
Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 04:53 PM by CGowen
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=3167788&mesg_id=3167788

Source: AFP

CAIRO - Damage to undersea Internet cables in the Mediterranean that hit business across the Middle East and South Asia was not caused by ships, Egypt’s communications ministry said on Sunday, ruling out earlier reports.

The transport ministry added that footage recorded by onshore video cameras of the location of the cables showed no maritime traffic in the area when the cables were damaged.

‘The ministry’s maritime transport committee reviewed footage covering the period of 12 hours before and 12 hours after the cables were cut and no ships sailed the area,’ a statement said.

‘The area is also marked on maps as a no-go zone and it is therefore ruled out that the damage to the cables was caused by ships,’ the statement added.

...
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 04:45 PM
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6. Thanks Joanne....
:hi:
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 06:17 PM
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11. You're welcome!
:hi:
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 05:07 PM
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10. Hydra-headed Internet reroutes traffic in 60 milliseconds
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Infotech/Internet_/Hydra-headed_nature_helps_Net_rebound_after_cable_cut/articleshow/2753865.cms

It was not by coincidence that the breakdown in SEA-ME-WE (South East Asia, Middle East, Western Europe) and FLAG (Fibre-optic Link Around the Globe) cables that carry the bulk of data and voice traffic from India to the West left only a limited impact for businesses. It was the combined effort of a dynamic disaster recovery technology and quick intervention by machine and humans that averted a catastrophe.

“In a way, this cable break showed how robust internet is, because data traffic got rerouted dynamically and there was not more than a delay of 60 milliseconds,” says Sify technology vice-president PK Saji. “With such a cut in the traditional switched network, you would have got cut off totally.”


And in Egypt:

http://africa.reuters.com/wire/news/usnL02365487.html

Last week some traders said transcations had been slower and that several international trading orders failed to go through. The central bank expressed its frustration with the service and said it would seek alternatives for the banking system if similar disruptions were to happen again.

Egypt has said it did not know if the cables were cut because of bad weather. Storms forced the country to close the northern entrance of the Suez Canal on Tuesday.

On Friday Indian-owned cable network operator FLAG Telecom said a third undersea cable was cut between the United Arab Emirates and Oman in the Persian Gulf. Telecom Egypt, a main Internet service provider in the Arab country, said on Saturday the third cable had no effect on its services.
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Make7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:09 AM
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16. The Oil Bourse
 
The American economy, stock market and entire financial system are crashing, and are threatening to take the rest of the world into the abyss. In this context, the GAO's remarks about the impact of financial sanctions, to stop Iran's alleged support of "proliferation" and "terrorism," may harbor a hidden message. Reviewing the sanctions slapped on Bank Saderat in 2006 and Bank Sepah in 2007, which deprived them of trading in dollars, the GAO writes that Iran has found alternatives: "sanctioned Iranian banks may turn to euro or other currency transactions to support Iranian government activities." Indeed, Iran has increasingly shifted to the euro, at a time when, due to the dollar's collapse, many other countries are doing the same, and are even considering lifting their pegs to the U.S. dollar. These include leading economies in the Gulf Cooperation Council, with whom Iran has been intensifying economic and political cooperation. Such moves, presented as "diversifying" foreign exchange reserves, are certainly not the {cause} of the greenback's fall, but they will not contribute to stopping it. In addition, as PressTV reported January 4, Iran will open its Oil Bourse, for trade in gas, oil and petrochemicals, in non-dollar currencies. Finance Minister Davoud Danesh-Jafarai said the bourse, located on the island of Kish, would be inaugurated in early February, on the anniversary of the Islamic revolution.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7877

- Make7
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CGowen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 07:39 AM
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17. The Return of Dick Cheney
...


Cheney's success at reassuming control over the foreign policy process came through exploitation of President Bush's mistrust of the intelligence community, which he has long seen as hostile to his interventionist policies.
That the intelligence community works for the president and is structured with so many checks and balances that it would be incapable of playing such a role has long been irrelevant as the administration and its cheerleaders have sought to find a convenient scapegoat for its foreign policy disasters. The release of the National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) on Iran in early December provided the critical wedge issue that enabled Cheney to shift the president in a more bellicose direction. As the estimate made a case that Iran had abandoned its nuclear weapons program, it was widely seen as contradictory to the administration policy which has sought to demonize Iran and set it up for regime change. Bush, an immoderately stubborn man at the best of times, was not about to let facts change his thinking.

During President Bush's just concluded visit to the Middle East, this process of distancing from the intelligence agencies culminated in the president's telling both Prime Minister Olmert and the Saudis that the NIE did not influence his thinking about Iran. At one point, he said "I defended our intelligence services, but made it clear that they're an independent agency; that they come to conclusions separate from what I may or may not want." Bush also told Olmert that an Israeli intelligence assessment, which detailed the threat posed by Iran and claimed that the weapons program is again up and running, more closely matched his own assessment. The Bush claim that the intelligence community is somehow independent of the government of which it is apart is, of course, completely absurd, but it is symptomatic of the thinking of Cheney and his supporters.

Bush and Cheney are now back on track for a program of bringing American democracy to the Middle East through force of arms if necessary.
When the Director of National Intelligence Mike McConnell and senior CIA analysts briefed Vice President Cheney about the potential blowback coming from a military confrontation with Iran early in January, Cheney was dismissive, responding that the US could handle any consequences. The Vice President, who has reportedly been regularly disparaging US intelligence assessments at National Security Council meetings, has taken the position that CIA and the intelligence community have been getting "payback" for their being blamed for the poor intelligence that contributed to the invasion of Iraq and have been quite deliberately undermining American policy on Iran.

...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/philip-giraldi/the-return-of-dick-cheney_b_82566.html
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 02:11 PM
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18. I think they missed their chance.
I think that the White House was ready to go for it in the fall of 2005 and again in the fall of 2006. '06 was particularly obvious because half the U.S. Navy pulled out of Norfolk and arrived in the Persian Gulf just after election day... only to discover that the Republicans were no longer calling all the shots.

That's worth pointing out to any dumb asshole who says that there is no difference between the Democrats and the Republicans.

Fuck no. We stopped that war at the ballot box, and I'm pretty sure the threat of Congressional investigation of any one of a thousand Bush Administration crimes is what's going to keep that war from being started this year.

At least I hope so.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 12:13 PM
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20. Just thinking aloud here...
but I think I've figured it out.

Seems to me that cutting the cable to Africa was a security precaution ahead of B*sh's trip there. If the link between Africa and the outside world is cut it obviously makes it harder for the anti-* elements to communicate.

Think about it - the first cable to be cut was Egypt...which is in North Africa..but no mention was made in the MSM about any disruption to service in Africa. Which seems very strange considering there are only two undersea cables connecting Africa to the outside world (the other cable connects to S Africa AFAIK). Maybe there was some kind of news black-out on this for security reasons. Obviously disrupting communications between Africa and the ME would also be a priority.

Anyway, that's my guess.
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Flatulo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 12:58 PM
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21. Another wild-ass guess...
The US may have partially cut off internet access to key regions to demonstrate that while they have petro strength, we can cut their economies off from the rest of the world any time we want.

This reminds me of a story from WWII. A German U-boat made its way undetected up the Hudson river dragging a giant box-cutter behind it. It severed key power and communication cables and escaped undetected.

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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 02:18 PM
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22. Strange things happen when B*sh travels overseas.
Edited on Sun Feb-17-08 02:18 PM by CJCRANE
Back in '05 he was over in Scotland for the G8 summit when the 7/7 bombers hit London. Then recently there was the Iranian speedboat "confrontation"* just before he left for Israel and the ME which provided him with a convenient talking point (*which turned out to be fake).

Maybe we'll find out when he gets back what the anomaly was this time.
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Sweet Pea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 02:34 PM
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23. What was fake? n/t
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 02:39 PM
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24. The voice saying
"you will explode in three minutes" over the radio did not come from the Iranian speedboats. It was recorded separately and is thought to have been a prankster nicknamed the "Filipino Money".

Read more about the incident here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filipino_monkey
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Sweet Pea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 07:52 PM
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26. Agreed n/t
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