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Mr_Jefferson_24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 01:55 AM Original message |
CBS' The Early Show on the morning of 9-11 (Part 1) |
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Sweet Pea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 08:00 AM Response to Original message |
1. How thick was the facade the aircraft crashed into? |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 08:48 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Not only the sane world... |
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Mr_Jefferson_24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 10:50 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Gee, you're not gonna just make shit up... |
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Sweet Pea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:48 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. You really |
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Mr_Jefferson_24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 01:08 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Sweet Pea doesn't like youtube -- yeah, jet engines are real quiet from the front... |
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Sweet Pea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 01:55 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. GREAT rebuttal! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 02:07 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Deleted message |
Mr_Jefferson_24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 08:41 PM Response to Reply #18 |
40. The only time a Boeing 767 jet engine is quiet... |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 09:44 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. Are you saying a number of other people did NOT hear... |
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Mr_Jefferson_24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 12:10 AM Response to Reply #43 |
48. I did not make any claims about anyone else's testimony... |
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CGowen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
3. You can hear it in the Naudet movie, I don't know how it would sound between tall buildings |
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Mr_Jefferson_24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:27 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. The Naudet video raises more questions than it answers... |
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CGowen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:52 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Even if you want to believe this was no luck, |
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Mr_Jefferson_24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 08:11 PM Response to Reply #6 |
38. The Naudet shoot of the North Tower supposedly being... |
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piobair (416 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:07 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Shame on you |
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Mr_Jefferson_24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:52 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Great argument, Piobar... |
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piobair (416 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 02:53 PM Response to Reply #10 |
24. you missed or ignored the point |
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Mr_Jefferson_24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 06:11 PM Response to Reply #24 |
31. Like all members of the nuisance/distraction brigade... |
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piobair (416 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 09:15 AM Response to Reply #31 |
56. reasoned arguement |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
7. I was in lower Manhattan that morning and I heard it |
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Mr_Jefferson_24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 01:04 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. You don't find it odd that Mr. Klein... |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 01:12 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. I can only speak for myself |
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Flatulo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 01:18 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Hamden - |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 01:22 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. That's why it's not just a word game for me nt |
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Mr_Jefferson_24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 02:00 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. So would I be correct in assuming that you... |
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Rosa Luxemburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 12:04 AM Response to Reply #13 |
47. I know someone who was in the Marriot |
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Flatulo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 01:14 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. He didn't say that he did not hear jet engines. He just stated that |
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Mr_Jefferson_24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 02:17 PM Response to Reply #14 |
23. What kind of convoluted BS is that?... |
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Sweet Pea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 02:13 PM Response to Reply #11 |
22. He was on the OPPOSITE side of the building! |
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Mr_Jefferson_24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 05:51 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. You don't even do the most rudimentary research... |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 05:58 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Your so-called "facts"... |
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Mr_Jefferson_24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 07:52 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. Is that supposed to be an important correction?... |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 08:08 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. It's just fucking typical of your posts. |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 08:47 AM Response to Reply #36 |
54. Yes, it is an important correction... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 01:42 PM Response to Reply #27 |
58. Deleted message |
SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 03:32 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Another one... |
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Sweet Pea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 06:25 PM Response to Reply #59 |
64. Oooops |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 03:44 PM Response to Reply #22 |
60. Point of information |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 04:17 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. Even the supersonic one will be heard. |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 04:33 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. Can it be heard before the plane passes? |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 04:53 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. No, I'm sorry. |
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Sweet Pea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 10:07 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. Not at all |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 06:22 AM Response to Reply #65 |
71. That's why I said the hotel was west, south and below the tower grade |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
17. Jeff, Old Bean, You Missed The Payoff Line.... |
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Mr_Jefferson_24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 02:03 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Please feel free to clarify what you're suggesting... |
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Flatulo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 03:42 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. Funny how you selectively interpret comments literally. nt |
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Mr_Jefferson_24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 08:27 PM Response to Reply #25 |
39. Funny how you make a hit and run comment like that... |
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Flatulo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 09:26 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. I don't have any interpretation of his remarks. The poor guy was |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 09:28 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Speaking of accounts of those who did hear engines... |
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Mr_Jefferson_24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 12:23 AM Response to Reply #42 |
49. I responded to Hamden's post and I do not discount his remarks... |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 05:57 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. Yes, I have a different take... |
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Mr_Jefferson_24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 06:16 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. Is that supposed to be the clarification of your post #17? |
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CJCRANE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
26. Game to the neocons. |
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Mr_Jefferson_24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 06:05 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. Is that supposed to pass for some kind of counter argument or rebuttal... |
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CJCRANE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 06:21 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. I'm just in a cynical mood. |
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Mr_Jefferson_24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 07:24 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. I don't claim to have all the answers... |
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CJCRANE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 07:45 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. I can see |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 10:17 PM Response to Original message |
44. I saw the footage wherein the building shimmered and then |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 10:19 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Except debris from the planes... |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 10:34 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. So they say - once the buildings collapsed |
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Mr_Jefferson_24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 12:38 AM Response to Reply #45 |
50. I notice when you talk of all that bountiful plane wreckage... |
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wildbilln864 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 01:02 AM Response to Reply #45 |
51. Link please? |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 05:54 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Jesus Fricking Christ, how many times do we have to post links to the photographic evidence? |
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Flatulo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 08:56 AM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Hey, I didn't see ... |
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wildbilln864 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 12:19 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. boohooo.... |
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Mr_Jefferson_24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 11:48 PM Response to Reply #53 |
66. THAT'S what you're offering in support of ... |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 12:29 AM Response to Reply #66 |
68. I give up.... |
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Mr_Jefferson_24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 12:50 AM Response to Reply #68 |
70. The reason you always have to be prodded to offer support... |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 07:20 AM Response to Reply #70 |
72. This is unintentionally ironic again, right? |
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Flatulo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 07:50 AM Response to Reply #70 |
73. You need a new tune, bud. |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 12:10 AM Response to Reply #53 |
67. "Trying to reason with "no-planers" is an exercise in futility." |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-21-08 12:44 AM Response to Reply #67 |
69. Deleted sub-thread |
Ghost in the Machine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-20-08 01:14 AM Response to Reply #45 |
52. Blown back out by the fireballs?? |
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