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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 09:51 PM
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911 group family group challenges Jessie Jackson on his CFR
Edited on Fri Mar-14-08 09:58 PM by mac2
membership. Bet he didn't expect that! Go to it and give them h...

http://philly911truth.org/

http://www.stopthenorthamericanunion.com/CFRMembers.html
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:05 PM
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1. You realize that the claim that we're creating a "North American Union" is...
Edited on Fri Mar-14-08 10:21 PM by SDuderstadt
a myth, right?

http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/nau.asp

You've been duped. The claim about Willie Brown is equally bogus.

http://www.911myths.com/html/willie_brown.html
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:38 PM
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2. Nope...
Edited on Fri Mar-14-08 10:50 PM by mac2
I heard x-President GH Bush himself, at the NAFTA 10th Anniversary bash on CSPAN, say he wanted the Americas Union in place (a union of trade and government) before he dies. We are well on track at this time, he said. I thought it arrogant and treasonous. The media just ignored it.

The European Union (you've heard of this one right?), The Asian Union, The African Union are terms I've already heard Congressional members use in their speeches on the floor of Congress on CSPAN.

The Americas Union start (combining Mexico,Canada, and the US has already been signed by Bush, etc.). The rest of S. America and a few islands are still holdouts.

It is reality not a myth. I'd like to pass it off as myth but unfortunately it isn't.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/803700/posts

Free world trade union...more like what GH Bush wants...world government ruled by corporations and the few elite (WTO, Bilderberg Group, CFR, PNAC,etc.).
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Flatulo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:44 PM
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6. Er... I don't think links to FR are allowed here... nt
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OKthatsIT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:53 PM
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7. HUH? That's an ASSOCIATED PRESS article.
Slow down....
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:22 AM
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9. The Free Republic link might be discussing an AP article...
but it's most definitely a link to FR.

A link to an AP article looks like this:

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/O/OBAMA_PASTOR?SITE=INEVA&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 10:25 AM
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11. So your "proof" is a link to FreeRepublic??
Well, yes, I've always thought that far-right websites were credible. Excuse me while I laugh my ass off. In the meantime, you should be taking a class in critical thinking. Seriously. You've committed nearly the gamut of logical fallacies in only one post. Congratulations.
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salvorhardin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:43 PM
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3. I wonder why truthers don't try to "challenge" Steven Weinberg
Edited on Fri Mar-14-08 10:47 PM by salvorhardin
He's a member of the CFR too. I bet that would make for entertaining viewing.

Other people they might try "challenging": Charlie Rangel, Charlie Rose, Dan Rather, Bill Richardson, Tersa Heinz, John Kerry and Paul Krugman. All of these people are members of the CFR and all are about as laughable as candidates for membership in some vast conspiracy that orchestrated 9-11.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 10:57 PM
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4. It started well before that.
But members of the 911 groups think that 911 was a "false flag" to take away our rights and freedom so they could form the Americas Union with open borders, etc. They've used 911 to do anything they please even remove our Constitution.

No American citizen can represent us in organizations with foreign representatives who decide our fate without being elected to do so. Nor can they meet behind closed doors keeping even journalists out. We have a democracy.

They have a right to challenge any one who has membership or goes to these meetings such as Jessie Jackson. It is illegal representation and might I say...treasonous.

If it is a myth he can say so and not go.
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OKthatsIT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-14-08 11:43 PM
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5. HERE'S 1 of many CFR documents - Planning NAU/NAFTA
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 12:18 AM by OKthatsIT
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=6456
http://www.cfr.org/publication/15704/what_should_the_next_president_do_on_nafta.html?breadcrumb=%2Fissue%2F2%2Feconomics
http://www.cfr.org/publication/8173/north_american_community_approach_to_security.html
http://www.cfr.org/content/publications/attachments/NorthAmerica_TF_final.pdf
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52242
http://tribes.tribe.net/nonorthamericanunion/thread/8a133af5-12b7-46cd-955c-88275e2c440e
http://www.canadianactionparty.ca/cgi/page.cgi?aid=469&_id=128&zine=show
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=6670
http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/cgi-bin/blogs/voices.php/2006/06/24/p8971
http://www.judicialwatch.org/SPP.shtml
http://www.hudson.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=hudson_upcoming_events&id=423


H.CON.RES.40
Title: Expressing the sense of Congress that the United States should not engage in the construction of a North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) Superhighway System or enter into a North American Union with Mexico and Canada.

US House passed the remarkable bipartisan vote of 362 to 63 on July 24, 2007
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:h.con.res.00040:


The problem is still the states.
Selling off America. State by state. Republicans did a lot of damage to their states infrastructure by saying, "NO MORE TAXES." So much neglect and still trapped by their own rhetoric. They've been privatizing roads with long term leasing contracts(50yrs, etc). I'm sure you've not forgotten the selling of bridges? WALMART will make the deals, believe me. AND The SLEEZEBAGS in the White House will just continue calling it a different name...

So, do your research. There's a lot more documentation...but you get my drift.
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:20 AM
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8. You do know this still wont be good enough for the deniers dont you ?
People who rely on broadcast media and/or government education to formulate their perceptions often roll their eyes in exasperation and conspiracy-nut-contempt when exposed to reliable information that challenges their beliefs.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 04:03 PM
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:21 PM
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19. If you see any BUSH PROPGANDISTS here, report them to the moderators.
*yawn*
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 01:46 PM
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 02:13 PM
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22. Those are the rules here, OTI. If you think someone's a Bush defender here
you report them to the moderators. You don't yammer on here on the website about it. You let the moderators deal with it.

Those are the rules. Don't like the rules? Don't post here.

DUH.
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OKthatsIT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 04:14 PM
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24. you've just done another dupe
Do you keep them handy in a text file?
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 04:17 PM
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25. bye-bye n/t
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:31 AM
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10. Lovely sources there
Whirled Nuts Daily? Really?

What exactly passed 362-63 on July 24, 2007? Go back to the Eagle Forum where you cut and pasted that sentence from and tell us all, because it sure as hell wasn't H.Con.Res. 40.
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OKthatsIT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 12:49 PM
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12. The Vote was from a GOVT SITE....you're WRONG
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 12:54 PM by OKthatsIT
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:h.con.res.00040

You see...WE RESEARCHERS have been trying to warn THE DUMBED DOWN for years. The destruction of the economy was designed long ago. BUT "NO", you wouldn't listen.

We screamed and screamed...and still you wouldnt listen. So now you're country is going down the tubes and you still won't listen. You certainly won't admit you were wrong to shut US down. You were wrong to fluff US off. You were IGNORANT and STUBBORN and now you can just lie in your self-made bed of denial and suffer the consequences. And make your children suffer with you for generations to come.

Thanks alot for dragging my children down with you!!!!!!!!!!
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:16 PM
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13. Hey, your vote from a government site is NOT for HCR 40!!!
You know how I know that? Because I took the sentence you cut and pasted about the vote and found it at the Eagle Forum. I then went to the Thomas site and looked up both.

It's not about HCR 40! Please examine your facts before you accept them at face value from a right wing nutcase site.
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OKthatsIT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 03:57 PM
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16. EXCUSE ME..I am extreme LEFT. DONT YOU DARE SLANDER ME
Or I WILL REPORT YOU.
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 06:20 PM
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18. If you think I've slandered you, report me to the moderators.
Edited on Sat Mar-15-08 06:21 PM by boloboffin
The Alert button is right down there on every post here.

*yawn*

Wake me up when you get around to dealing with your inaccurate post.
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 02:38 PM
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28. Tell us more
What do you consider to be "extreme left." Left-Communism, Maoism?

I just don't know any ultra-lefties who espouse John Birch Society nonsense.
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mrgerbik Donating Member (652 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 02:33 AM
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33. way to pigeonhole issues
it's really just what we need need these days - mental constructs representing our day to day lives while espousing polarized, divisional thinking.



/slowclap
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 03:53 AM
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34. What is it to you?
The poster said s/he was extreme left, and I wondered what s/he considers to be "extreme left". Are you putting forward the "there's no political spectrum" argument?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 03:18 PM
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29. Deleted message
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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 03:36 PM
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30. "why aren't they stinking up the religion forum?"
Unless I am mistaken, some of the same posters here have posted in that forum.
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khaos Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 03:59 PM
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31. w/o the harassment maybe
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-17-08 04:01 PM
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32. Please demonstrate how anyone here...
is being "harassed".
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:23 PM
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27. What vote?

That resolution, whose sponsors are primarily R's from wingnut country, has, like most pieces of grandstanding bizarre proposals, been referred to the relevant committees.

Any Congressperson can introduce a resolution stating just about anything, and many do. What do you this proposed resolution proves?

At least the Birchers are bi-partisan, to some extent.
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Make7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:18 PM
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14. That link to H.CON.RES.40 is missing a colon at the end. Here is the working link:
 
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:h.con.res.00040:

- Make7
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/D?d110:34:./temp/~bd3KWS::#content
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OKthatsIT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-15-08 01:28 PM
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15. oops...sorry
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 04:11 PM
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23. Just a note in case you didn't know, thepeoplesvoice is a far-right website
masquerading in pseudo-leftism. Avoid linking to it in future.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 01:38 PM
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20. duder, this post of yours once again....
Edited on Sun Mar-16-08 01:42 PM by wildbilln864
proves your ignorance of current affairs. No surprise to me though. :eyes:
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 06:48 PM
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26. Actually, Bill....
I'm not ignorant of current affairs at all. I'm actually an agent of the NWO. Happy now?
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