Video: Jesse Ventura on 9-11 with Hannity FOX News !

[chimper]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=JzX6tkLmgAM

[victordrazen]

1. He did ok

I guess the wtc7 thing can't really be refuted. It's funny how they try to ridicule right out of the gate. Sean Hannity is just so offensive, I mean, it's personal...

[Bolo Boffin]

2. "the wtc7 thing can't really be refuted"?

http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com
http://www.debunking911.com
http://www.911myths.com

[wildbilln864]

3. still not refuted!

Don't believe it!
Just sad attempts at keeping the truth from coming out by the usual suspects. Investigate 911! Accept nothing less than a thorough and fully independant investigation.

[victordrazen]

4. thanks

Those debunking sites are so lame and deceptive!

[wildbilln864]

5. and do any of them have access to the real evidence?

Nope! :hi:

[SDuderstadt]

6. Please explain how the debunking sites are...

deceptive. Be specific.

[victordrazen]

9. Those sites

only give partial answers. They leave stuff out.

[SDuderstadt]

11. Give some examples, then....

what, exactly, are they "leaving out"?

[vincent_vega_lives]

14. They simply address the fallacies of the conspiracies.

No different than the "flag blowing in the wind" moon-hoaxers.

What more do you need?

[wildbilln864]

22. well sure they do...

with bullshit speculation, ridicule and propaganda! :rofl: They could be Bush's bestest friends. Without em, he'd probably be on trial by now.

[AZCat]

25. Of course you have supporting evidence for your accusation.

I would expect nothing else from you.

[vincent_vega_lives]

30. I would LOVE to know what

you do in real life.

[wildbilln864]

31. Wouldn't you!

I do lots of things. :hi:

[AZCat]

7. The truth sure is lame...

if it doesn't coincide with your paranoid conspiracist worldview. The rest of us (who live in the real world) seem to have no problem with it. Perhaps you should consider why.

[victordrazen]

8. I have a "paranoid conspiracist worldview"?

Wow that is a lot to know about someone who only has 40 some odd posts on DU. It seems to me the majority of people at this site (DU) have an unfavorable view of what we have been told about 911. Are we all "paranoid conspiracists"? It's still better than being slavishly gullible, which is what I think of someone who believes the Fox news versions of events.

[AZCat]

10. Fox News has produced a version of the 9/11 events?

I wouldn't know that, since I don't watch Fox News.

I don't know if you have a paranoid conspiracist worldview, but I have been posting here long enough to recognize that those who do, are not open to alternatives other than their professed beliefs. Maybe you need to do a little introspection to determine your motives for discarding information that doesn't fit your beliefs about September 11th. Calling something "lame" lacks something (like a real basis).

[victordrazen]

12. You just told me I had one

Now you say you don't know . Hold yourself to the same standards that you hold others to.

"are not open to alternatives other than their professed beliefs" - that sounds like you to me.

I've looked at the "debunking" sites closely because I want to make sure I am not being fooled since I think a lot of the 911 "personalities" are suspect (I think there is a movement to make people want to distrust "the government" inherent in a lot of this and I do not think 911 was "the government"). I contacted one of the "debunkers" once -under stress he could NOT answer my questions and got angry and started to call me names.
As far as this thread, I really do not think there is a reasonable explanation for all the wtc and only the wtc to have been totally destroyed during 911 the way it was. Engineer Schmengineer, it just makes no sense according to anything I know, and I'm not dumb.
On the synchronicity thread I posted a book "Better than Angels" written by a former CIA agent and a contemporary reviewer said the plot was too hard to believe - people using planes to destroy property in the name of terrorism and that is when it was presented as fiction.

[vincent_vega_lives]

13. Not close enough

Obviously if you think the case for WTC-7 being demolished being irrefutable.

[victordrazen]

23. Well anything is refutable

so I used the wrong word. But there is no believable, proveable explanation. I've seen some of you show some sketchy footage where something appears to land on the wtc7 during the tower collapse, which is always good for a chuckle. The problem is several credible witnesses saw the lobby destroyed PRIOR to either collapse.

[SDuderstadt]

28. Then name them and....

link to their testimony.

[vincent_vega_lives]

29. believable?

How bout plausable.

The building fell most likley because impact damage causing partial collapse was converted into global collapse by a construction design called a transfer truss on floors 5-7.

Photographic evidence indicate a partal collapse than could have damaged the truss and a fire that went unfought that could have further weakened the truss.

[AZCat]

15. Do you have one?

It seems so to me, but I'm not the one to determine so.

Just because one debunker could not answer your questions (which may have been stupid questions anyway) does not invalidate any of the work done by others, nor does it invalidate the work done by NIST. You think that there isn't a "reasonable explanation" for the collapses, yet you can't think of a reason other than personal incredulity. That's pretty fucking stupid. I can't verify if you are or are not dumb, but anybody who rejects explanations because they can't understand them certainly fits at least one of the criteria.

[Twist_U_Up]

16. Excellent job against Hanazi !! Watch this video, you wont regret it.

Jesse's dangerous.
I'm sure he won't be invited back anytime soon. LOL
Heres another video of him on CNN April 8.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=mtt62mFAkDM&feature=related
No confidence.......hmmmm its an option

[Flatulo]

17. Yeah, when people say "It fell at the speed of gravity" it tells me

they've taken one too many blows to the head.

Gravity is not a speed.

And the buildings did not fall at the speed at which he probably meant to say if he knew what he was talking about.

[Twist_U_Up]

18. Sticking up for Hanazi ? Go figure

;-)

[Flatulo]

19. Just speaking the truth, which there is precious little...

of in your 'movement'. Mis-statements, lies of omission, oversimplification and mindless repetition of inaccuracies are your stock in trade.

Care to debate me about the content of my post?

[Twist_U_Up]

20. Im done debating mindless lemmings sorry.......

nothing personal. Its just your transparency is almost as existant as boffins.Perhaps more.

Maybe you could give Jesse a call and ask him personally instead of trying to bully little ole me. Hes more of a people person than I. He was elected Governer was a member of the Navy Seals with demolition experience.
Give it a shot, if you have the cajones.

911 WAS an inside job to believe otherwise would mean you fell for the govt supplied story that doesnt amount to anything but what your accusing the Truthers of.
Whats black is white and whats white is black in OCT world.
Have a nice life.

[Flatulo]

21. More proof that the Truth movement entails very little actual truth.

You can't debate my factual statement, so you resort to a personal attack. Have you even bothered to read what I wrote? It is absolute non-debatable fact that gravity is not a speed. It is not even remotely like speed in any way. It has nothing to do with me, or you, or Jesse Ventura. It is the nature of the universe we have been cast into. Jesse's credentials as a SEAL have no bearing on the issue.

People who cannot understand such an elementary physical concept are to be treated with extreme skepticism when making such sweeping conclusions about much more complicated phenomenon. I actually LIKE Jesse, but he is clueless on this matter.

I am not going anywhere, Twist. Whenever you post bullshit, I will be right there to call attention to it.

Your only hope is to pray for my early demise or to ignore me.

[victordrazen]

24. Kind of like "photo" images

with photoshopped shadows where you can't see the persons eyes. That is what you guys "debate" is like.

[Flatulo]

27. Que???

[wildbilln864]

26. your post is off topic! nt

:hi: