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Jon Gold Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 06:02 AM
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Kyle Hence And John Judge To Appear On Air America's Clout - 5.29.2008 - 9PM EST


This week's debate on Air America's "Clout" with Richard Greene is destined to be a special one. As it stands right now, the two confirmed "pro-Truth" guests to appear are Kyle Hence, and John Judge, the founders of 9/11 CitizensWatch. Citizenswatch was a watchdog group of the 9/11 Commission that worked alongside the 9/11 Family Steering Committee. Along with the families, they called for the resignation of Executive Director Philip Zelikow, and at one point, they started an advertising campaign "demanding that Bush, Cheney, Clinton, Gore and Rice testify publicly, and under oath before the commission." They ran "billboard advertisements in the Washington metro rail system for four weeks, as well as quarter-page ads in The Washington Post." Thus far the one confirmed guest who does NOT agree that we need another investigation is Daniel Pinchbeck, the author of 2012: The Return of Quetzalcoatl, Tarcher, 2006 and editorial director of the web magazine, Reality Sandwich. Daniel's position is that we need to move forward, not back.

9/11 CitizensWatch has appeared on C-SPAN:

rtsp://cspanrm.fplive.net/cspan/project/ter/ter061804_citwatch.rm

rtsp://cspanrm.fplive.net/cspan/project/ter/ter072204_citizen.rm

Kyle Hence is the Executive Producer of "9/11: Press For Truth", and "In Their Own Words: The Untold Stories Of the 9/11 Families". John Judge has worked as the Special Projects Assistant to Rep. Cynthia McKinney of Georgia, has been a member of COPA for years, and is writing a critique of the 9/11 Commission Final Report for the 9/11 Research Center.

There are very few people in the world today that understand the problems with the 9/11 Commission as John and Kyle do. Please tell your friends, and family to listen in. As I said, this show is destined to be a special one.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 01:10 PM
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1. kick
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Jon Gold Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 06:08 PM
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3. Thanks...
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Jon Gold Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 05:45 PM
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2. SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
Joining John and Kyle will be 9/11 Family Member, and "Jersey Girl" Lorie Van Auken who lost her husband Kenneth Van Auken.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 08:31 PM
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4. Thanks for the alert. nt
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 08:34 PM
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5. Thanks Jon
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reprehensor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 09:12 AM
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6. They will be deconstructing "The Official Story"
Tune in, and turn on, Perry.
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 09:19 AM
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7. Since the truth movement constructed it, I guess they can deconstruct it if they want. n/t
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mhatrw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 03:40 PM
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9. Exactly. No official story of what happened on 9/11 exists.
By design, the "official story" is nothing but a bunch of self-contradictory double-talk. It doesn't exist except in the minds of those skeptical of it (and, of course, as a inviolable myth that justifies never-ending war).
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 09:34 AM
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8. Thanks for the heads-up, Jon
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Jon Gold Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-30-08 07:37 AM
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10. Now...
That I've had some time for the show to digest, I can write a "review".

I worked very hard to give Richard Greene the best possible guests he could have had for this topic. I gave him the formula for what could have been an award winning show. Instead, he decided to have someone on that had a hard time making coherent statements (what does it mean when the opposition comes across crazier than the "9/11 Truthers?"), and he gave that someone the majority of the show even though Kyle Hence and John Judge were listed, and promoted as the headliners.

I honestly don't know what Richard was thinking. Suffice to say, I'm a little perturbed.

When the discussion was about the ridiculousness of the 9/11 Commission, and 9/11 itself, Lorie, John, and Kyle were fantastic as far as I'm concerned. A positive that I hope will come out of this show is that maybe people will realize the value of John and Kyle's knowledge, and start inviting them to speak. As we found out, just as we did with Peter Dale Scott, when Ron Wieck is confronted with facts as opposed to theory and speculation, he gets scared, and tries to get the opposition to declare a "narrative" that he's comfortable debating (9/11 was an inside job, the buildings were brought down by Controlled Demolition, etc...). He also makes ridiculous claims about how everyone in every agency must have been involved as opposed to just singling out the "higher-ups" making the detrimental decisions. Sorry Ron, but not everyone in Government is a criminal. Ron Wieck has shown the world that he is nothing more than a blowhard, and he has also shown the world that the debunkers "cause" is misguided, meaningless, and as far as I'm concerned, traitorous.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GGULDKQ2UY&e

Thank you to Lorie, John, and Kyle for making the time for last night's show. I am sorry to everyone else that it wasn't as good as it could have been. I tried.


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Jon Gold Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 08:31 AM
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11. After...
Listening to this show for a third time, I have to say that this was a great show. I'm sorry I badmouthed Daniel Pinchbeck.
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Jon Gold Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 11:58 AM
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12. Also...
Keep in mind that Richard contacted Debra Burlingame, and spent 45 minutes on the phone with her, and she declined.
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