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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 09:24 PM
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it was I.E.A.D. not CD
Improvised Explosive Aided Destruction rather Controlled Demolition

although Bldg 7 did look very much like a Controlled Demolition
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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 10:16 PM
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1. So there should be plenty of traces left in the dust, right? nt
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 10:42 PM
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2. traces of what ? explosives
I do not know of any large scale analsys of the WTC dust.

but that would have been something they should done right after ....
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 11:57 PM
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3. Don't tell me...
All the dust in New York City was immediately shipped to China.
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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-04-09 06:47 AM
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4. One of the earliest and biggest failures of the truth movement
Edited on Wed Mar-04-09 06:51 AM by hack89
a little initiative, a shovel and a garbage sack and any truther "scientist" could had all the dust they needed for an independent test. The stuff was all over NYC - inches thick on rooftops for miles around.

Someone actually did do an independent analysis of the WTC dust - no sign of explosives:

http://www.nyenvirolaw.org/WTC/130%20Liberty%20Street/Mike%20Davis%20LMDC%20130%20Liberty%20Documents/Signature%20of%20WTC%20dust/WTCDustSignature_ExpertReport.051304.1646.mp.pdf
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-04-09 12:06 PM
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6. yes, three years after the fact!
Edited on Wed Mar-04-09 12:07 PM by wildbilln864
and "EXPERT REPORT OF Richard J. Lee, Ph.D.
SUBMITTED ON BEHALF OF DEUTSCHE BANK AG"
:shrug:

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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-04-09 05:31 PM
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7. The question is why didn't any truther do the tests
there are real scientist and engineers in the truth movement, aren't there?

So what if it is 3 years old - it was laying undisturbed in an abandoned building.
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-04-09 10:13 PM
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9. thanx for the link
good info on all toxic subtances in the dust

however I didn't see anything addressing a search for explosives residue
they probably weren't looking for any
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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-04-09 10:41 PM
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12. They weren't looking for anything in particular
they were building a profile of the dust - if there were explosive they would have seen it.

What is your feeling about the failure of the truth movement to test dust? Was it massive incompetence or did they actually test and hid the results because they were negative?
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Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-04-09 09:06 AM
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5. and... what exactly is that?
Please elaborate.
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-04-09 10:09 PM
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8. Somehow....
I just don't see the dust settling here...
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-04-09 10:18 PM
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10. make that ...
Improvised Explosive Aided Destruction rather than Controlled Demolition

by that I mean enough explosives for the Buildings to collapse vs

a Controlled Demo ...

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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-04-09 10:26 PM
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11. But there were no explosives detected in the collapses
And you are aware you have set aside all notion of excessive explosives throwing heavy debris around? You're going strictly for the minimalist approach here.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 01:51 AM
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13. Yes, explosives were found -- Thermite -- used by military . . .
think Blackwater . . .

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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-05-09 06:43 AM
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14. No - there was no thermite found
no physical evidence at all.
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William Seger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 04:45 AM
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15. How about Imaginary Explosive Aided Delusion? (n/t)
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Realityhack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-07-09 09:50 AM
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16. Now why on earth would it be improvised.
Even if one were to believe in some explosive conspiracy why on earth would you introduce the word improvised?
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