Flight 93-- to burn or not to burn?

[spooked911]

As coroner, responsible for returning human remains, Miller has been forced to share with the families information that is unimaginable. As he clinically recounts to them, holding back very few details, the 33 passengers, seven crew and four hijackers together weighed roughly 7,000 pounds. They were essentially cremated together upon impact. Hundreds of searchers who climbed the hemlocks and combed the woods for weeks were able to find about 1,500 mostly scorched samples of human tissue totaling less than 600 pounds, or about 8 percent of the total.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A56110-2002May8


The plane “went in the ground so fast it didn’t have a chance to burn,” says Jim.

http://www.americancatholic.org/Messenger/Sep2006/Feature2.asp


Cremation without burning-- another 9/11 first.

[Matsuflex]

1. More plane went in the ground nonsense.

The passengers literally broke up into pieces along with the plane and then most bounced into the woods taking out a section of forest. Some pieces of plane and passengers went into the ground, most went into the forest after impact. Hate to say it like that, but that what happened to the passengers. Plane crashes are a violent act.

[Bolo Boffin]

2. Wallace Miller said that some of the passengers were found

in all five search sectors.

[Matsuflex]

3. They were all found and identified.

How do the CTs explain that one? Let me guess, all the volunteers who scoured the field and forest were in on it.

[Bolo Boffin]

5. And remains belonging to four people were also found

Unmatched to any sample provided by families. By deduction, they're the hijackers.

[defendandprotect]

13. People on the scene - rescue workers, etal -- say "nothing there."

I have a feeling they would have checked the nearby areas for bodies!

[LARED]

4. Anothor idiotic thread conflating people's thoughts into

something ridiculous.


If the plane impacted at say 600 mph it was traveling 1/2 mile per second. Consider this.

[Matsuflex]

6. Spooked your article seems to contradict itself

Hundreds of searchers who climbed the hemlocks and combed the woods for weeks were able to find about 1,500 mostly scorched samples of human tissue totaling less than 600 pounds, or about 8 percent of the total.

Then it has one guy's opinion saying this.

The plane “went in the ground so fast it didn’t have a chance to burn,” says Jim.

Right there you have what looks like a contradiction. Looks like the searchers found most of the passenger remains above ground, but Mr. Jim's opinion is that the plane went into the ground. Looks to me like Mr. Jim's opinion was a bad one and you Spooked are trying to build up another strawman argument.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

7. I don't believe there was a flight 93

[SDuderstadt]

8. Good....one less person....

I need to bother with responding to. I prefer to discuss things with rational people.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

9. how do you know for sure?

[BeFree]

10. Open mindedness...

...is not a trait you will find often in the OCT minority here. They have their dogma and they dog it relentlessly.

"How do you know for sure?" is a very good question given the conflicting and contradictory bodies of evidence, and an open minded person simply must pause before answering. And when they do, honesty compels them to answer that, really, they can't be too sure of anything.

But that is just the open minded and honest folks. Don't expect too much from the rest of the small and decreasing minority we uncover here in the dungeon. That would be my advice.

[SDuderstadt]

11. i don't talk to ''no-planers''...

sorry.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

16. if you ain't got a plane, you ain't got a plane to shoot down?

[defendandprotect]

14. I agree . . .

and those on the scene immediately say "nothing there" -- NOTHING.

Plus this hole in the ground seems to have always existed in its present
condition PRE-9/11 according to satellite photos -- that info having been
posted here at DU a while back.

I hadn't heard before that anyone found anything identified as parts of
bodies - scorched or otherwise! ????

And, it looks like a strong effort to deny that there was "nothing there."

[defendandprotect]

12. hmmm.......

Not quite sure if you're questioning this or agreeing with it . . .

However, as for the hole in the ground, others have found that satellite photos
taken of this area show that this hole existed as it looks now BEFORE 9/11.
This information has been posted at DU.

And, again, those who reached the sight immediately said there was "nothing there."
Further, even if something as preposterous as this calculation by Jim ....

The plane “went in the ground so fast it didn’t have a chance to burn,” says Jim.

were to be considered for more than a moment, it would be obvious that much ground would
be disturbed. Neither is that the case.

This "hole in the ground" exists today, just as it did before 9/11!

Additionally, as for remains and the "alleged hijackers" evidently no ARAB DNA
was found in any of the remains.

[Bolo Boffin]

15. What is "Arab DNA", pray tell?

By the way, four unidentified sets of male remains were left over after all other passengers and crew were identified.