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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 09:41 AM
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Repub "Logic": Americans can compete with cheap foreign labor
by getting educated and making themselves more valuable.

:wtf:
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 09:42 AM
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1. by lowering their standard of living is more like it
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klook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 09:42 AM
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2. Yeah, at junior colleges, no less (n/t)
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 09:52 AM
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4. Yeah, no offense to community colleges, they are a great springboard
Edited on Thu Oct-14-04 09:53 AM by caledesi
to a 4-year school. But let's face reality a 2-year degree isn't going to assure you a good job.

* is just so out of touch.

Sometimes I think he makes up this shit as he is speaking.

edit: the usual
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Wright Patman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 09:50 AM
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3. I see the problem now
There are millions of underemployed Americans who went all four years to state and private universities and some even pursued graduate degrees.

Had they only opted for the 2-year associates degree down at the local community college, they'd all be fully employed and living the American dream!
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LynzM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 10:00 AM
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5. Yeah, really
My husband graduated in May from the best undergrad engineering school in the country. He doesn't have a job yet, not for lack of looking. If he'd only gone to the local, 2-yr IT school, maybe he would....

What are they all smoking??!?!
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 10:57 AM
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6. One person's experience
Edited on Thu Oct-14-04 10:58 AM by Tansy_Gold
I have a two-year degree (Associate in Applied Science) in accounting from a community college. It has never made me qualified for anything higher than "accounting clerk" positions. However, the knowledge I gained in that 2-year program was roughly the equivalent of 3 years out of a 4-year BS degree, because I didn't have to take all the humanities, etc., "general education" courses that would have been required. With that extra accounting education, I was actually able to perform many of the tasks routinely assigned to my managers.

After more than 20 years of getting nothing but clerical positions and being paid for clerical positions but DOING THE WORK OF THE DEGREED MANAGERS, I decided to go back to college, at age 50. I now have a BA and MA, and since graduation I have yet to find a job in any field even remotely connected to my education.

What I have been able to find are temporary positions as -- guess what -- accounting clerk, payroll assistant, etc. And even in the temp jobs, I often end up doing the manager's work (because I CAN) but getting paid shit for it.

As a less-expensive stepping-stone to a four-year college or university, I applaud the community colleges unstintingly. But as a terminal education cure-all, they suck. They train people to do jobs way above the level of pay they can ever earn. The AA and AAS degrees are a joke. (And don't even get me started on the so-called "BAS" degree -- Bachelor of Applied Science -- like that awarded/given at Arizona State University West.)

But of course, the one job opportunity that seems to have unlimited potential is "nail technician." I think you can train for that at the community college level.


Tansy Gold, over-educated and under-medicated :-)
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 11:00 AM
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8. Very interesting.
:hi:
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 10:58 AM
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7. Yes, perhaps the "educated" can get a job in China ?
:eyes:
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 11:00 AM
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9. And, this fool was tieing that statment in to NCLB.
No Child Left Behind. He's a laugh riot.
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