Greg Palast: "Kerry Won"

[npincus]

http://www.tompaine.com/articles/kerry_won_.php

Bush won Ohio by 136,483 votes. Typically in the United States, about 3 percent of votes cast are voided—known as “spoilage” in election jargon—because the ballots cast are inconclusive. Drawing on what happened in Florida and studies of elections past, Palast argues that if Ohio’s discarded ballots were counted, Kerry would have won the state. Today, the Cleveland Plain Dealer reports there are a total of 247,672 votes not counted in Ohio, if you add the 92,672 discarded votes plus the 155,000 provisional ballots. So far there's no indication that Palast's hypothesis will be tested because only the provisional ballots are being counted.


Is there any possiblity some lawyers are quietly working behind-the-scenes to get a final count completed?

[dolstein]

1. Greg Palast doesn't know what he's talking about

To reach that conclusion, you'd have to assume that (a) nearly all the provisional ballots were cast be eligible voters and (b) nearly all provision and spoiled ballots were cast for Kerry.

There's a huge difference between Ohio in 2004 and Florida in 2000. In Florida, Bush led Gore by only a few hundred votes, and spoiled ballots were much more likely to be found in Democratic precincts. In Ohio, Bush led Kerry by over 130,000 votes, and punch card ballots and provisional ballots were used throughout the state, including in many Republican precincts.

[soundfury]

2. ThatÕs what we get when we have Skull & Bones choice.

We have to stop Democrats from trying to be more Republican.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=1315134#1317865

[soundfury]

3. KICK