------ ALL Dean supporters check in.....thank you -----------

[cthrumatrix]

A message to all Dean DU'ers.

Do NOT reply to any Dean negative threads....don't touch them....let the bashers go on their own...and you will see the "bashers" lose steam. DO NO POST. They are egging you on.

Do not "stick up for Dean" by replying to "what will Dean do"? Forget them...let the bashers have their thread fall apart.

WE control the thread choices...which are issues.

DO NOT engage in "negative Dean threads"...that is "their plan".

Let others do what they choose....Dr. Dean would be proud of you and your support. Change starts with us.

When you don't give negativity "energy" ...it goes away. Think about it.

[Individualist]

I'm here

and I'm with you cthrumatrix. :toast:

[calimary]

100. I'm still here, too, cthrumatrix.

[Cleita]

1. Thanks for bringing this up.

I hope everyone agrees.

[cthrumatrix]

2. don't even bother with the "i'm thinking of switching from Dean to x"

[seventhson]

3. Umm I'll try?

Is that okay?

[cthrumatrix]

7. stay positive--- it's your attitude is all that counts

[polpilot]

47. Dean is the only hope for this country and because of his participation

and sacrifice I'm taking notice this year.

Dean '04...

[CMT]

4. good advice

thanks alot. I think we will come out of NH in a strong position.

[cthrumatrix]

5. we control "our emotions" --- they don't

[shance]

99. Great point. I need to pin that on my work board.

Thanks for the post Cthru.

[wryter2000]

6. I hear you

I normally avoid the Dean bashing threads, anyway.

[jedicord]

8. Amen

Unless you want to become even more bummed out.

Here's to New Hampshire! :toast:

[cthrumatrix]

9. you can tell which "disruptors" are here JUST to bash the Dr.... let them

like it's going to effect NH or the next six states...NOT.

[NoPasaran]

10. Still proud to be a Dean supporter

On to New Hampshire!

[creativelcro]

50. Absolutely! I was not discouraged by Iowa at all...

[alexwcovington]

11. Aye Aye

Certainly. The time for incivility has passed if there ever was such a time.

[Name removed]

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[cthrumatrix]

13. this is true....we are ABOVE the shots --- the Dr. can defend himself

[JasonDeter]

22. Wow. And lets not intimidate people and discourage dissent

I have always said Dean was a very viable candidate and would vote for him if nominated as the Democratic nominee. But that little ra ra speech to his supporters in Iowa after the results of the caucuses
was kind of freaky. I'm taking a hard second look at the man.

[cthrumatrix]

23. He can handle himself....let the naysayers "eat each other" with spin

and "baiting of failure"....

our victory is letting them suffer with no reply

[Democrats unite]

37. Thats a cheap shot..

I started not to post here, but decided I cannot let this pass. Why is it if we don't like Dean half us are pukes?

[cthrumatrix]

14. And ...when the others mess-up ...which they will ...have mercy on them

for we have been there and what it is like.

Everyone will have thier turn for ups/downs.

[Walt Starr]

15. All I have to say is I am extremely bitter

and after last night I can NEVER bring myself to support one of those other people.

[cthrumatrix]

17. the game they play is as follows: they post a negative title and look

for others in their group to contribute and steal the board with non-sense posting....

that's DU? .... watch how they do it..and laugh.

[MODemocrat]

32. You know Walt, I have the same feeling

The anti-Dean people will fully expect us to automatically vote for their candidate if he wins, but after seeing how they ,and the media have treated my candidate, I'm not sure if I can fall in line with the one they're supporting. It is wrong to tear others down in order to put one's own on a pedestal. I'm still concerned about John Kerry and his Skull and Bones affiliation, and his siding with Bush on nearly everything. At one time, I maintained that I would vote for the one who was nominated, but not anymore; they'll have to work for my vote now.
:puke:

[cthrumatrix]

34. they "taunt" on purpose --- let them go -- success is our rebuttal

and we may change "lurkers" by being above the fray...

[dansolo]

108. Electability applies to Democrats as well

Appealing to Republicans may very well turn off Democrats, resulting in a net loss. No votes should be taken for granted.

[formernaderite]

41. The status quo won last night...

..Iowa remains a mid-western state with small aspirations. Will that happen in New Hampshire? I don't think so, the left there is far more progressive. I'm taking a wait and see attitude with the rest of the candidates...I won't go with Clark or Lieberman, and frankly Edwards is far too wet behind the ears. If the party goes with the safe candidate, then MANY progressives will once again look elsewhere.

[Zinnola]

91. I am with you Walt

I will not support Kerry, Edwards, Lieberman or Clark. I will not support the tired status quo. The Dem party will just eat itself. None of the four will win againist Bush, so the Dem party will lose again.

[Hoppin_Mad]

16. Solidly Dean - and will fight the attacks here -nt-

[cthrumatrix]

18. the ONLY thing that counts is "scoreboard"...and uncovering fraud or

something that really needs attention.

Let the Dean thread play amongst themselves. If they have nobody to fight with...it dies.

And you know who is real by the stupidity of the content.

[DEM FAN]

19. It's NOT Over Yet. We Can Still WIN.

;-)

[Kira]

20. Go Dean!!!!!!

Thanks for this. I hope we can have some positive Dean threads throughout this week (and beyond) it makes me feel better when I see people who support Dean talking about issues.

[bigwillq]

21. See ya all in NH

Where Dean will win. Thanks for the post. I'm with you all and the Dr.

[cthrumatrix]

24. keep it kicked and pass it around ...and let's keep to issues!!!

That have more meaning....than what we have been seeing.

[MODemocrat]

25. No way would I switch from DEAN to X__

As a matter of fact, I'm more determined now to support him than ever.
Today, I began by sending an extra contribution to his campaign. In my opinion, people are taking too much stock in the caucus. After reading about how few ever become president after winning there, I'm not the least bit concerned about Dean coming in third.

:think: :thumbsup: :hi: :dem:

[cthrumatrix]

26. good for you....don't give energy to negative threads on the Dr.

[NashVegas]

107. So Did I

I plopped down another 50 last night.

[FarLeftRage]

27. Hear ya loud and clear

I have stayed above the "fray" so far.

I have an ignore list and it grows longer each day.

Will stay the course until this is over...

[cthrumatrix]

29. There are plenty of issues ..... yelling at a "dean baiter" does nothing

let them taunt each other...

[FarLeftRage]

40. Right!

And to think in my only post about going to Dean's campaign HQ, I experienced first hand these disrupter's or "Dean baiter's" and handled it with a bit of satirical humour.

[funky_bug]

28. Don't kick me out, please...

I'm walking in the room, and I'm waving the white flag...

Just wanted to say that I'm sorry for all the posts that are hitting the GD board today, and I'm alerting the mods as fast as I can.

I may not be a Dean supporter first, but I support his supporters!

[cthrumatrix]

30. thank you...

[Individualist]

31. Thank you

for those thoughts Wife_of_a_Wes_Freak.

[Ramsey]

45. Classy lady

Some of your fellow Clark supporters could stand some lessons in civility from you!

Thanks.

[funky_bug]

48. Hey, I'm workin' on it!

If I don't wear out the alert button :)

[Logansquare]

46. Thanks. You represent your candidate with honor

when you say things like this. (Just a big HINT to those who think the best way to promote their guy is by trashing everyone else.)

[xultar]

33. Hey guys, I posted a thread to you. I hope you don't get mad

look for it.

[cthrumatrix]

35. I saw it....we're ok with positive thread...the Dr. has a great message

we know that...

[kerry-is-my-prez]

36. My advice is to not even read them. It's only going to be a downer...

n/t

[creativelcro]

51. Can we exchange "blocking" lists ?

That way it will be easier not to read the negative stuff...

[Ramsey]

38. Excellent advice

I've been blowing off a little steam today. I will follow your sage advice and now desist in trying to engage the small-minded.

[mandyky]

39. I've been passing on posting to negative threads

for the most part for about 2 months now. What bothers me is they have to come into the positive threads we have, and try to start crap.
I know I should probably put these folks on ignore but I am curious. After the election, I intend on checking these folks posts - hopefully, their only problem is disliking Dean. I understand Dean isn't for everyone, and it makes me curious about where they stand on other things.

Anyway, I'm with Dean until he drops out or the convention. I doubt Dean will drop out and neither will I.

[msanger]

42. what I did today

after not smoking my victory cigar (is there a "cigar smokers for dean"?) last night, I got up this morning, and

1)wrote ten letters to New Hampshire
2)put my Dean button on my winter coat (it had been sitting by the door for a month)
3)got the mother of my neighbour to donate, and
4) just went to contribute fifty bucks myself.

I really think that's all it takes.

[Ramsey]

75. That made me smile

That is the best gawgdamn thing I've read all day.

I'm ready to rumble again!

[pnziii]

43. Dean all the way

I will only support Dean
It was the others (Kerry, Edwards, Gephart) that let the repugs get all the power.

Remember what Truman said "he denounced the 80th Congress as a "do-nothing" body dominated by men with "a dangerous lust for power and privilege"

Right now the Dems are just Republican light. I wasn't going to vote at all until Dean came along. Got me interested in politics again.

The repugs and Dems don't like outsiders comming along and messing up what they have.

[pnziii]

44. Can we exchange emails?

Would like to discuss Dean with fellow supporters.
What's the best way to keep in touch?

[FredScuttle]

49. Bloodied, unbowed

Still damn proud to support Governor Dean...and thickening my hide to all the hater threads. Iowa is a setback...all the more reason to pour our focus, our energy, our efforts into NH.

I believe that Dean has reached the crucible in his campaign...months of heavy media saturation (some postive, mostly negative, slanted and distorted) and concentrated attacks from his rivals left Dean vulnerable and his own missteps were amplified for Iowa's voters. How he recovers and how mobilized his support is in NH will define the future of his bid.

Give 'em hell, Howard!

[LuminousX]

52. Here and kicking.

:kick:

[Anwen]

53. cthrumatrix....

I totally agree with your post!!!!!

There have been several times that I've read such hateful comments that actually made my jaw drop... and I found the best way to get over it is to simply ignore it and let it die.

Thanks for this post!!

[cthrumatrix]

58. more than welcome....let the "taunters" and others post away....we don't

need thier negative energy

[Anwen]

74. True, true.

Enabling negativity to flourish is a complete waste of precious time and energy.

[Individualist]

54. Enthusiastic kick

for Dean supporters

[Gin]

55. I like what Skinner has done....having a " just for dean supporters post"

it was getting hairy here..Dean is my choice and will be until it turns out otherwise...I will vote for a dem. if its not Dean...but give no funding.

Dean for president!

[candy331]

56. One of the best suggestions I have heard

today. I have gotten sick of looking at the posts with negative Dean issues... I noted this on Blog For America that they too say let the trolls go don't respond trying to defend. Yes this is an excellent idea, thanks for suggestion.

[NewHampster]

57. This is more important than we know

One of many supporters to complain on the official Dean blog was quoted on the news tonight. Straight from the blog and that doesn't help anyone except dubya.

hmmmm, the spelling checker here doesn't recognize Dubya!

[Melinda]

59. I've stayed out of GD2004 since last night, but I'll not leave Dr. Dean;

Not me. :hi:

[cthrumatrix]

60. the race is just starting ...let others have thier fun...let the pundits

spin away like a top

[Khephra]

61. I'm still here

[ulysses]

62. I'd say engage where the spirit moves you.

God knows I will. :)

Other than that, yeah, it's a huge waste of time.

[Southsideirish]

63. Checking in - love you Howard! Don't let the media define you.

All the way back to Chicago today we ran into people leaving Iowa - tooting our horns, waving signs, etc. We still love Howard to the max and are anxious to help him in any way we can. Hope he takes on the media - as the guy on the blog forum today said - he has nothing to lose they are going to really go for the jugular now.

[David Zephyr]

64. Howard Will Win the New Hampshire Primary.

Cthrumatrix, savy thoughts on your part.

The thing that eats at the other candidates is Dean's money and organization...and poll numbers.

And any bounce that Kerry gets out of Iowa will come at Clark's expense, not Dean's in New Hampshire.

I truly think that one of the reasons that Dean was so upbeat last night was because he knows how solid his support is in New Hampshire.

The media will now focus on Kerry and Clark vs. Kerry. Dean can now stay above it all...and win just seven days from now.

Another positive note from yesterday in Iowa: the most pro-Iraq war candidate, Richard Gephardt, was forced to drop out completely.

:hi:

[creativelcro]

66. I think the same. Kerry is a one-trick pony.

[SadEagle]

65. Checking in.

And I would say that if all politicians were like Dr. Dean, our country would be a much better place.

[KeepHopeAlive]

67. I'm here

I swore I would never post in this forum, but this thread is worth a supportive post.

[Android]

76. I'm here too!

Kicking this along...

P.S. Hi Mom!!! :-)

[cthrumatrix]

78. thanks guys....keep the faith..it will be rewarded...

[Android]

86. I know!

I'm not even going to bother reading the negative posts in this forum. And I'm not even going to bother watching all the negativity on the news as well. Getting sucked into that is a waste of time, and there are plenty of positive alternatives we should be focusing on -- doing whatever we can to help get Dean all the way to the White House! :-)

[KeepHopeAlive]

106. Yay Android!

It's great to see that you haven't lost any of your wonderful enthusiasm. Onward! :hug:

[WillyT]

68. Yo !!! --- Checkin In !!!

What a wasteland GDP2004 is today, hmm???

Ah well, the REAL enemy is about to speak.

:hi:

[cthrumatrix]

69. thanks for checking in ...after this speech -- we really need the Dr. and

his vision for America...badly


remember -- let's stay positive -- let the others play in the "negative sandbox"

[Cassandra]

70. Still here!

Looking forward to the next round.

[cthrumatrix]

71. me too....me too

[not systems]

72. Go DEAN!!!

I will avoid kicking the bashers threads.

[slinkerwink]

73. I'm a Dean supporter all the way.....

and I'm not going to engage in negative Dean threads---honestly, after the Iowa loss, I thought they'd stop flamebaiting us, but they haven't. :shrug:

[HuckleB]

77. Greetings!

[cthrumatrix]

80. thanks for stopping by....:-)

[Guaranteed]

79. Still here.

:thumbsup:

[cthrumatrix]

81. you were out there ...lol...i saw a few threads...feel better..?

[Guaranteed]

90. Yeah...I'm a little embarassed...

I'm just glad I wasn't out there on that stage. :)

Feel much better. Dean's pulling it back together right now.

I think he needs to re-center his campaign around the corporate takeover of America. Maybe tone down the volume, just a bit. But show people that he'll work for jobs, fair wages, and health care. Keep the passion, while toning down the hate. He's built his credibility with folks- you can't be "angry" without it- so now he needs to show ideas.

[askew]

82. I am still here.

A little irritated after seeing all of the negative posts, but still here.

But on a positive note, today I:

Signed up on officially on the Dean website to caucus for Dean and even asked for information on being a precinct captain.

Donated $50.

Signed up for the local DFL "Rock the Vote" informational meeting to learn about issues and how to GOTV.

And I spoke up at work and school and defended Dean today, which is not an easy thing for me to do.

So, I am still trying.

[Anwen]

96. That's great Askew!

Every little thing helps!

It's not always easy to stand up for what/who you believe in... but it is worth it. :-)

[askew]

101. Thanks.

I am slowly getting more brave. This campaign is making me do all sorts of things I never thought I could do.

[Anwen]

104. Same here....

This process is still really new to me... a few years ago I could have cared less about politics. Dean has changed that all for me. I've been so inspired by his campaign that I've donated money and at this very moment I'm writing letters to people in New Hampshire on his behalf. But I want to do even more. I just feel so strongly that he is the right candidate for America...

Anyway, good luck to you in all that you do! :-)

[LSdemocrat]

83. Game On!

Better yet, spend as little time as possible here, instead go write a letter, go canvassing, send emails, or make phone calls.

Lets give this everything we've got, because we NEED to take our country back!

[cthrumatrix]

84. you're absolutely correct....countdown to NH....and forget the non-sense

of this thread.

[KoKo]

85. Oooops! I didn't say anthing until this afternoon when I saw the speech

on C-Span feed online. Then I did start to reply. I felt I needed to reply to some of the more "unenlightened" newer posts later today.

You have a good point. But, unfortunately they will just keep putting more and more threads out there. And, they will be "concealed" and posted in GD forum. Hard to ignore. :shrug:

Hopefully it will die down in the next day. I think the "Speech" distortion did need to be answered, but most of the rest of it really isn't worth it.

[milkyway]

87. Here. Last night was a major setback, but I caught some of Dean's...

speech and Q&A from Manchester today and was reminded all over again why he's my favorite candidate in decades. He offers intelligent solutions to people's problems, without any bullshit. Sometimes he is so honest in small ways that it is almost shocking. A few weeks ago I heard him give a speech on CSPAN where he told the audience that "first we'll talk for a little bit about Mad Cow, and then I'll give my basic speech." Who else would let their audience know the truth--that they're getting the same basic speech he's given to hundreds of other audiences? It seems like a dumb thing to say, but it's downright refreshing. He talks to the public sometimes in the same manner and using the same language that he would speak in private to his campaign aides.

I think the campaign realizes the mistakes it has made and is turning things around today. There are a lot of outside reasons for Iowa, but Dean and the campaign are also responsible. I think that he got caught up in his media image, and when other candidates co-opted what he was saying, he felt he needed to separate himself again by being Howard Dean squared. But seeing the Gov today on CSPAN really lifted my spirits.

[Castilleja]

88. I am still here, too.

and I'll kick this thread...:kick:

[Zinnola]

89. As a graduate Social Worker

with a Psychology background, IGNORE the people who are trying to instigate. It frustrates them and they just end up shadowboxing themselves.

[Lugnut]

92. Deaniac....

Checking in! I'm all fired up after watching the good doctor in Iowa last night. Ignore the bashers. It's no fun posting to yourself. :thumbsup:

[Toot]

93. Here and still 100% behind Dean.

:hi:

[Lisa0825]

94. I'm here! Just home from Iowa!

I already decided on the bus home not to reply to anything negative. I was there; I felt the energ; I gave my energy; I witnessed another moment in our movement. The caucus results do not tell the whole story. I am still committed to this campaign, in fact, even moreso.

[BinkieGirl]

95. Delurking to check in...

I've been reading DU several times a day for more than two years now. I rarely post.

But I wanted to check in.

-BinkieGirl

Just back from Iowa and getting ready to head out to New Hampshire :)

[KaraokeKarlton]

97. I think we should all use that little "hide thread" feature

to help resist the temptation to respond. If you see flame bait, just alert it and then hide the damn thing. Time to stop feeding the trolls.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

98. Yeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaagjjgjjjgjggghguyguvbvbbv!!!!!!!!

Excellent post.

[VirginiaIs4Lieberman]

102. If Lieberman is out of it by February 10

I will support Dean in the Virginia primary. Seems as though the rest of them are phoneys. Being Jewish, I supported the war from the Israeli point of view, but Dean really believes what he stands for and the war is over. I like him.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

103. Bruised but revivifyng...

[JCMach1]

105. <-- is a supporter

:)

[Crewleader]

109. Hi Dean Supporters'

I just want to say, the media has been totally unfair in making or breaking a candidate and they are zeroing in on Howard Dean.
They can do it to any candidate...Dean was rallying his troops up after spending so much time in Iowa and working hard all the volunteers that went there. So in his deep appreciation at the end of the night he wanted in a fighting manner with the sleeves up as he shouted the states that are left not to give up and no you shouldn't, keep up your spirits.

It's not over with Howard Dean as the media likes to express, he's got a poweful war chest many of you and the grassroots money that has gone to his campaign will carry him through.

This is a fight we are in together...I hope in the end we all can come together whoever it may be...and I'll vote whoever it is...so don't give up hope...we need to be rid of Bush after watching his state of the union more then ever. How can he justified the War in Iraq...he ties it in with the Terrorism. And did you notice not one word about the knowledgement of the soldiers on the TIME magazine who was there while he gave his speech as they looked real uncomfortable too.

Iowa is down...many more states to go friends as Dean shouted! :-)

[cthrumatrix]

110. well said....the Iowa polls showed that voters were not really

wanting Iraq to be the "issue"...in looking at the WSJ...economy and healthcare are 1&2...

I think the Dr. see's this.....

[goobergunch]

111. Checking in (n/t)

[cthrumatrix]

112. stay on issues...alot of threads started on issues and it appears

so far that "others" seem quiet.