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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 09:55 AM
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Sincere plea to the DLC folks here...explain New Dems and bankruptcy bill.
Maybe there is a hidden agenda? Maybe they have not read the parts of the bill that allow credit card companies carte blanche? Maybe they don't understand the full import of this bill?

I would like to know their reasoning. If they are this eager to vote yes on it, they must have a reason.

http://www.tnr.com/etc.mhtml
Noam Schreiber column


It is our hope that the House of Representatives will consider this important piece of legislation in an expedited manner. We stand ready to work with you and our colleagues on both sides of the aisle to pass bankruptcy reform into law.

Sincerely,

Rep. Ellen O. Tauscher
Rep. Adam Smith
Rep. Ron Kind
Rep. Artur Davis
Rep. Carolyn McCarthy
Rep. John Larson
Rep. Stephanie Herseth
Rep. Dennis Moore
Rep. Mike McIntyre
Rep. Joe Crowley
Rep. Jay Israel
Rep. David Wu
Rep. Diane Hooley
Rep. Melissa Bean
Rep. Jim Davis
Rep. Harold E. Ford, Jr.
Rep. Ed Case
Rep. Jay Inslee
Rep. Shelley Berkeley
Rep. Gregory W. Meeks

"This magazine and multiple other opinion outlets on the center-left have written at length about how the bill in question is a truly contemptible piece of legislation. Worse, there is no plausible political rationale for supporting it other than to appease credit card companies. As Paul Krugman pointed out today, the bill makes no exceptions for families wiped out by medical expenses (which make up more than half of all bankruptcies) or for bankruptcy cases involving active-duty soldiers, yet it leaves any number of loopholes in place for large corporations. The political imagery here so obviously benefits anyone who'd oppose the bill you're left to conclude that the only way a congressman could possibly support it is through a craven and reflexive willingness to do the bidding of big business.
But, even worse than that, support for the bill by Democratic moderates betrays a striking obliviousness to the most important debate underway within the Democratic Party. Moderate Democrats have been under assault from grassroots liberals lately for selling out Democratic values in their rush to appease conservative interests. I normally think this criticism is highly misplaced, and that moderates have exactly the right instincts when it comes to social issues and foreign policy, even most economic issues. But in this case the moderates proved the liberals' point for them, which could set back the cause of moderates within the party for months, if not years. It really is a colossal, inexcusable mistake......"

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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 10:08 AM
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1. Yes, I would like to know how - usually you can ask if the voters
in their district have a majority of right wing little people haters. But I don't think that applies to many on this list.

Sometimes, they play their behind the scenes games of we'll give your this one if you give us this one. But, what are the trade-offs in this one. Bankruptcy balloon profits for cc card corporations in exchange for ss?

Has anyone heard one word in defense of this decision.

Why do Dems think they shouldn't stick together - why is there a dem orgainization fighting dems?

This is right wing ammunition for right wing propaganda - even dems thought it was a good idea and went on record to endorse and push for the vote...blah blah blah.

I want to know. This is not intuitive or logical.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 10:27 AM
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2. Anyone?
Anyone?
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 10:36 AM
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3. indefensible. (nt)
Edited on Wed Mar-09-05 10:36 AM by w4rma
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 01:20 PM
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4. Kick for input - does anyone know how their rep has defended this?
What exactly is the NLC or whatever acronym represents that group of Dems who are acting against the little people?

How soon will their kickback reflect in their lifestyle or is that to mean or accusatory?

Why? Why?
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