Laura Bush's running down a boy by car in Texas in 1963:

[AlinPA]

This is another example of the media covering for Bush&Co. Tonight a guest (R, I think) at my house said "I never heard about Laura Bush running down the boy in Texas in 1963" (when the incident was mentioned by another guest). If this were Mrs Clinton or some other Democrat, it would have been plastered over the TV continuosly for the last 12 years.

[ktowntennesseedem]

1. I confess I've never heard that one myself.

Didn't realize I'd been living under a rock all these years, but then I admit I don't notice everything.

Maybe I should start dining at your house! I might learn something!

[Skittles]

5. from what I've read

it sounds like a terrible accident caused by an inexperienced driver.

[BlueManDude]

14. it was her boyfriend that was killed n/t

[FreedomAngel82]

16. And she was

driving drunk.

[Skittles]

18. I have never read that

nt

[Bunny]

26. No indication anywhere that she was drunk.

[BlueManDude]

28. i don't think so but...

it's a small town and the idea that she was unfamilar with the steet layout could be in doubt. she may have rammed the other car on purpose because of some falling out they had...it's an incredible coicidence but it could be just that and nothing more.

[AlinPA]

7. Google "Laura Bush and Farm Road 868". An old story.

[ktowntennesseedem]

11. Gonna do just that, as soon as I click the "post message" button

[AlinPA]

9. That's the point- if she were a Dem's wife, you'd know about it. n/t

[pinkpops]

2. It was her former boy friend

[zann725]

61. Curiously...astrologically, she's a Scorpio.

No comment.

[Wilms]

3. That's why the Black Widow was hooked up with the Town Drunk. n/t

[European Socialist]

4. It was on CNN about 6 months ago- and mentioned by callers on C-span.

I think thats why she never gets nasty with anyone.

[EVDebs]

36. also in Reader's Digest story about her life... Dems have class

mostly and don't bother with this stuff. But it explains why they don't do too many MADD events.

[Mike Nelson]

6. Don't get in any car with a Bush!

Not healthy

[Jim Sagle]

8. And if you're anti-Bush, don't get on any small planes.

[Charon]

20. Or a Kennedy

[Benhurst]

10. Wasn't "Tell Laura I Love Her" written for the film's soundtrack? NT

[mikelewis]

13. delete

[BlueManDude]

12. If Hillary had done this there would have been a...

special prosecutor. No joke. I use this as prime example of the RW media bias. About 20% of the US population knows about this.

[LibDemAlways]

17. No Dem could run for President if any

member of his immediate family had been involved in an auto accident that caused someone's death - and it would make no difference how long ago it had occurred. The whores would have a field day with the story. Dems are held to an entirely different standard. Repukes can get away with murder - or at least manslaughter.

[Middle Finger Bush]

22. come on what about kennedy?

gotta at least be fair with your analysis

[LibDemAlways]

24. I'm assuming you mean Teddy.

He challenged Carter in the primaries in 1980 and didn't get the nomination. He's still known as "Killer Kennedy" by many repukes. I hear c-span callers mention Chappaquidick all the time. Even if he was younger, he'd never be able to run in today's media climate.

The political climate has changed so much in the last quarter century though, that my contention stands. No Dem with a close relative who killed someone in a car crash would survive media scrutiny. Period.

[Laurab]

45. Teddy was destroyed by the media

you certainly couldn't say it wasn't covered by the media. It also destroyed his political ambitions, so you really can't compare it.

While I don't think Laura's accident should have been scrutinized by the media, I do agree that, had it been Hillary, we would have ALL been familiar with it. More than familiar. The media would have been all over the "murderer".

[ComerPerro]

65. He still gets shit about this from the media

I hear it mentioned almost every time I hear some right wing gasbag talk about him.

[he lied us into war]

31. Vehicular manslaughter at the very least

And that assumes it was not deliberate and simply due to reckless driving. Since she killed a former sweetie, it may have been deliberate and thus murder.

[thecai]

57. Selective Prosecution

Some "more fortunate" people are above the law. Anyone else, will serve time. I call it "selective prosecution". Or "selective justice".
Welcome to DU, "he lied us into war".

[BikeWriter]

59. I'm with you on that!

[Radio-Active]

33. not 20%

probably less than 5%.. DU is a microcosm.

[FreedomAngel82]

15. Oh of course!

Gotta think of Laura Bush as innocent. She was sooo heartbroken and she didn't have to serve any time. :eyes:

[dad]

19. This site has it all

http://www.childbutcher.com/

[NYCGirl]

21. More information from snopes:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/laura.asp

[MellowOne]

23. This part doesn't ring true

According to George and Laura: Portrait of an American Marriage, Laura Welch did not find out that the driver of the other vehicle had died at the scene until later when she and her girlfriend were being treated at the hospital. And she did not learn his identity until later still, when her parents arrived and broke the news to her. It shattered her.


At the scene, she would recognized his car. They must have waited for the ambulance if they went to the hospital. The article stated the young man's father was behind him and witnessed the whole thing. She would have seen his father and probably talked with him.

[EST]

25. If ever there is an explanation from BFEE...

Rest assured. It will always and forever be lies, lies, lies.
They are constitutionally incapable of telling the truth.

[zann725]

62. ...as most Sociopaths are.

n/t

[OneTwentyoNine]

41. Yeah,story said only bumps and bruises for Laura and passenger...

So its not like they were unable to get out of their car and look at the crash scene. They would have had to know who they hit and most likely how severe the trauma was to the driver of the other car.

The Snopes article also says they were going to a party. November 6th 1963 was a Wednesday night,might have been but doubtful there was a party on a Wed night.

[Chelsea Patriot]

67. Nov 1963 was a busy month for The BFEE, including future members.

[BikeWriter]

27. What are the odds she'd hit a boy friend's car accidently? 20,000 to 1?

30,000 to 1? It would depend on the number of cars in town.

[slor]

29. If it was a Hillary accident...

the media would most certainly cast doubt, at the very least, on her story. I personally think that laura, tipsy, jealous and bitter, from him breaking off the relationship, decided to take revenge. But hey, that is just me.

[Radio-Active]

35. I doubt she intended to kill him...

but I'm sure the crash was revenge for her being dumped.

Unbelievable that

-she didn't attempt to stop
-she didn't recognize his car
-she didn't know the roads
-it just happened to be her boyfriend that she hit

[BikeWriter]

60. Exactly!

[LittleClarkie]

30. I heard someone on the phone using that in a canvass call

I didn't like it.

It was irrelevant to whether or not George Bush should be president.

[PowerToThePeople]

32. Well, people at snopes don't know geometry

this site:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/laura.asp

says "The vehicles were traveling at right angles to one another, so an unusual headlight array on one wouldn't have been visible to the other."

Well, it was clear night, and treeless road, probably Texas pasture fields, so if the cars were both a ways from the intersection she would have a view of the front headlight setup of the car. as they both got closer to the intersection the headlights would take on an angle to Laura where she would not be able to distinguish the pattern.

edit- Heck, even at a 4 way stop you can see the headlight pattern on the car at the other stop sign, that is a BS story that was given..

[Padraig18]

34. She was just a girl herself.

It was a tragic thing, and I frankly wonder why it needs to be resurrected again and again.

:eyes:

[Tactical Progressive]

37. I like Laura Bush

I think she's probably a Democrat caught in a Republican family, as so many are.

I can't see her doing anything like that intentionally. She doesn't seem to have a malicious bone in her body. And this was all long before she ever came into contact with the Bushes, so there's no Republican privilege at work here. She was very young and it probably scarred her for life.

I never bring it up, but I have slammed back ugly Kennedy accusations by nasty Repubs with the incident. Not nice, but these people want war and they need to know they'll get hit back. Sorry Laura.

The relevant issue here is that if Hillary Clinton had done the same thing, millions, literally millions of Republicans would be sneering that she's 'a murderer' tens of thousands of times a day all over the internet. The Clintons would have never come close to being elected President if she'd had such an accident, even before cable news and the internet gave voice to the bile of the right.

[AlinPA]

38. Relevant issue-That's the point I was trying to make with the post. n/t

[Tactical Progressive]

39. You made the point well about the media

and the kinds of people they put on display.

I just wanted to support your impression and add how regular Republicans everywhere provide the environment to enable and promote their ugliness. They are a ready and willing audience for the likes of Coulter and Hannity and Matthews and the rest.

And to separate Laura Bush herself from the politics of the right wing.

[July]

40. It's hard to say whether she's malicious or not.

I do think it's possible, though. She was supposedly behind Bush's going after McCain (very nastily) after Bush lost the NH primary to him. She got right out there to sweetly say that people say mean things about my Georgie, too, when the Smear Boat Liars were getting all kinds of attention -- which, to me, is disingenuous (and that was part of a coordinated campaign that included Bob Dole and GHWB).

All that said, I don't believe (so far) that she set out to murder the guy with her car. But she did get treated favorably, and now the records are murky. Full details probably will never be available (remember the AWOL documents?). She does seem to be getting special treatment that NO Democrat would ever get, and Teddy Kennedy can testify to that.

[Catherine Vincent]

47. I agree.

[dhinojosa]

42. She even has her own driving school

[autorank]

43. You've been very naughty., dhinojosa. Go directly to bed!

:spank: the monkey...

[NVMojo]

44. It was in many women's mags when Bush ran the first time...

she was a young teen when it happened.

My son was driving a truck with friends and he was a new driver. He rolled the vehicle and one of his friends was killed. This stuff happens to teens, unfortunately and tragically. We will live this for the rest of our lives and I am sure that Laura does too.

[kodi]

46. a little known fact, it was jack ruby's kid.

a new urban legend just started here.

[Erika]

48. She was not ticketed even tho she ran the stop sign

In this state, you are ticketed without exception if you fail to stop or yield.

She was 17.

[Lars39]

50. Wouldn't this be considered vehicular manslaughter now?

I remember a guy in my town that was almost sent to prison for just such an accident.
I think they put him on probation for a few yrs.

[Erika]

51. Yes or involuntary manslaughter

based on the circumstances. You just don't walk away without even a ticket.

[Lars39]

64. I wonder how she managed to get away with this.

Cop a friend of the family? Makes me wonder.

[he lied us into war]

52. She did the same thing bill janklow did a couple years ago

The republican congressman and former gov of North (or was it south) Dakota ran a stop sign and killed a guy in 2003 and he was convicted of VM. Laura should have been so charged too. There's really two scandals here. Laura killing the guy by reckless driving and then laura avoiding prosecution.

[Lars39]

63. Yep, you're right.

Welcome to DU! I like your screen name. :)

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

49. Is this during the time she was allegedly taking and dealing dope?

According to Kitty Kelley's book? Could she have also been driving under the influence?

[jojo54]

53. I Yahooed and Googled this story

I was trying to find the ACTUAL newspaper account when the accident happened, using "Laura Spencer" and "automobile accident" in advanced search. All I get is the saga of Luke and Laura Spencer. A frigging soap opera....isn't that ironic??

[fob]

54. Laura Spencer? Of course you're going to get the Luke and Laura

soap opera crap. Laura Pickles bush*s maiden name is Welch, as in doesn't pay up on a losing bet.

[jojo54]

55. I knew that, really I did!!

WTF??? I'm in day 4 of giving up the ole' coffin nails. Still having hallucinations.

I'm gonna try this again.

[fob]

56. That was funny though! I would PREFER Luke and Laura Spencer

as President and First Lady over the goodtime happy happy kill kill bunch we have now!!

[jojo54]

58. Was never really into soap opers

but I bet G.H. had and still has more fans than the *'s will ever have.

BTW - there's some pretty heavy duty blame on this website:http://www.childbutcher.com/laura_bush.htm

[ComerPerro]

66. Even though I don't really consider it to be "murder", I have no problem

with continually throwing it in her face. Why the hell shouldn't we?

Its not as though the Republicans ever hold back any kind of slander.

"President Bush, a recovering alcoholic and drug abuser, as well as having an arrest record and questionable gaps in his military service, is seen here with his wife Laura Bush, who once committed vehicular manslaughter."