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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 04:18 PM
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CNN's Wolf Blitzer: "Should US and Israel allow Iran to build nukes?"
So now its official, according to wolfie. Iran is building nuclear weapons. The only question that remains is: should we let 'em get away with it?

Scott Ritter was right again. These fuckers are going to attack Iran.
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cestpaspossible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 04:22 PM
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1. Should the rest of the world allow the US and Israel to build nukes?
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 04:23 PM
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2. Israel has nukes
And there's no proof Iran does - WTF? The lies and propoganda have begun....here we go.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 04:26 PM
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4. I don't think we can mention that in Murka
Please be quiet, move along and stop saying things that cause trouble.

We don't need truth or rational thought when we are trying to drum up support for an invasion.

Thank you very much.

:hi:
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 04:44 PM
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12. You just mentioned it
Apperently you can.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 04:25 PM
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3. Why should Israel be the only one in the region allowed to defend
themselves, anyway...in these modern times. I can understand Israels need to protect itself long after WWII...but NOW? When the Bush Doctrine allows for US strikes anywhere this P-Resident imagines some threat, why should other countries be denied the very rights that we Amaricans are now professing to have. :shrug:
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 04:27 PM
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5. Because Israel is our friend and they're good and democratic -
Edited on Wed Apr-13-05 04:28 PM by sparosnare
they have to defend themselves from the heathens surrounding them and they'd NEVER start something. :sarcasm:
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 04:28 PM
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6. Attack With What
They don't have the ground troops, and contrary to popular belief, air power alone can't win this.

The Iranians have been equipped by the Russians for the last few years, and they expect the US to attack. There is no way that US air power can knock out every single SSM that the Iranians have, and the US does not have the ability to protect the 150,000 troops on the ground in Iraq.

And the troops in Iraq will be the first targets for the Iranians, with a massive launch of SCUD missiles we would lose the majority of US combat troops, and I don't really think that the Iranians will be all that concerned about killing more Iraqis.

If the US attacks Iran, this adminstration will go down in flames, along with any politician or political party that supports the attacks.

If they do plan to attack, the first indicator, IMO, will be an Executive order reinstating the Draft, if that happens then count on a war with Iran, but know that we will fighting this war alone, as the rest of the world watches from the sidelines.

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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 04:43 PM
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11. One Scenario
Israel bombs "known Iranian nuke facilities" with nukes. Nothing is left at the bomb site to verify whether there were or were not warheads there. (Not that it should really matter).

Then Iran (or a reasonable facimile of Iran) retaliates by attacking one of the 14 "enduring" US military bases in neighboring Iraq. They kill G.I.s, and a compliant US media whips up America into a frenzy of rage.

"We can't let Iran do this! First, Iran secretly masterminds and finances 9/11!!! (It was SO secret that we didn't know about it until now). And now Iran has attacked us again!"

A draft is started, but it is "limited" (at first) and much better tolerated by the public because of the attack(s). Maybe some domestic US target will also be attacked for good measure.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 04:57 PM
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16. Thats exactly what I was thinking....
Smirky is itchin' to lob a few nukes at terrists, and BushCo Inc. will probably let him do it.

They are obviously unconcerned with public opinion anymore, since they have that election thingy all fixed up now.
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 04:45 PM
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13. Perhaps that's the plan. Engineer some situation where our troops in
Iraq are attacked (we attack them first on the down low with special forces on the ground or let Israel do it) and then use that as an excuse to reinstate the draft and retaliate against Iran. I put nothing past these people.
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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 04:29 PM
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7. Not this again!?!
I guess Iran is back in the official, RNC-mandated media talking points. I hope Seymour Hersh, Scott Ritter, et al. have it wrong about Iran, but I suspect not.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 04:30 PM
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8. The real question is
What can the U.S. and Israel do about it without throwing the entire Middle East into war?

No one can really believe China and Russia will sit back and allow the U.S. or Israel to attack Iran and jeopardize their economic (oil) interests.
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earthboundmisfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 04:34 PM
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9. Dear Congress: Please, PLEASE don't fall for this sh*t again...
Damn, they're using almost the exact same gamebook (with fill in the blanks) as they did to justify Iraq! Too f*ckin' crazy to believe...
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 04:49 PM
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15. What makes you think they'll even bother with Congress this time.
They'll 'facilitate' another terrorist incident either here or in the Middle East and let the fear factor do the rest, just like after 9/11.

I hope I'm wrong. There are three people in the last couple of months that have said Bushco has the plans in waiting to attack Iran, Scott Ritter, Seymour Hersh, and Jim Jeffords. Condoleeza Rice has said that's not true. Who do you believe?
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 04:35 PM
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10. This just makes me sick!!!!!
The media is complicit in this next Bush warmongering chapter!

Unbelievable!!!
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 04:48 PM
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14. the son of a bitch is going to do it
Edited on Wed Apr-13-05 04:49 PM by Malva Zebrina
and Israel will be a enabler. It is being set up as we speak. The propaganda has begun and will continue to lle over and over as with Iraq.

This is why we have Bolton nominated as ambassaor to UN, and why Negroponte nominated to be head of intelligence and they will be confirmed by a congress that obviously has a blood lust and it will be all sewn up if the two of them are confirmed.

We the people, who are repulsed by this pre-emptive attacks and who are repulsed by the utter slaughter and violence involved and done in our name, are and have been rendered moot. We have been rendered moot not only by the Republicans, but by the Democratic party also.

I will not protest, should this happen. It is a useless pursuit and waste of energy.

It will take nothing less than a revolution by the people and after all the propaganda, the complacent people, the dumb peple, the vengeful people, the people who believe the ends justify the means, I even wonder if that could ever occur.

China and Russia were impotent in the Iraq war--the entire UN was impotent and could not stop the slaughter or the illegal pursuit of warmongers to invade Iraq. The son of a bitch will attack Iran and Israel will be complicit--whether or not they will provide any military support is another question but I believe this utterly stupid and ignorant man,George Bush, will do it in our name.
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WLKjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 05:00 PM
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17. The shit-storm commeth soon. n/t
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 05:00 PM
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18. Doesn't Iran have a right to defend themselves?
Edited on Wed Apr-13-05 05:01 PM by 0007
The U.S. is the only country that has used nuclear bombs on human beings.

Pakistan is a rogue nation, North Korea is rogue nation, India has nukes as does Russian, France, Israel, China, and the U.S. and who else I don't know.

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