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kansasblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 05:06 PM
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Pew Research May 11-15 Bush Approval at 43%
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 05:07 PM
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1. You mean, this sucky president is actually getting sucky poll numbers?
THAT can't be right! How does THAT happen?
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 05:09 PM
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2. Occasionally they make a mistake and actually report the real numbers!
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 05:09 PM
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4. Rove's calling Newsweek to get a retraction right now nt
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 05:09 PM
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3. It's going to be hard to get it down below that
Once you get to 40%, you're talking about the real Kool-Aid drinkers here who would defend Bush if he strangled a live puppy on television.
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libhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 05:11 PM
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7. Only cuz
Gawd n' Jaysus told him to do it.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 05:12 PM
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8. At least a third are the true believer
theocratic, apocalyptic thugs who think that Bush has to be defended no matter what a crap president they all know him to be. They'll lie about him, for the good of the country.

If Alan Keyes can get 27% of the vote in the Illinois senate race, there are at least 33% who'll back Bush no matter how badly he does.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 05:57 PM
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16. Inland, I totally agree. The core is not that large, relatively.
I remember seeing a poll on the support for the odious Sen. Joseph McCarthy a few years after he was exposed as a lune. He had about 25-27% of the public still behind him. I think it's always been that way, that nasty core group is just activated lately.

How did you infer the 33%? Figure that 6% of the population is of the wingnut true believer category but will not join the other 27% of their co-religionists because they're just so bigoted they could never vote for Keyes?

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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 07:41 PM
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22. No, I figured it this way:
Illinois is a blue state, so I bumped it up.

And about a third always wanted Clinton impeached, and about a third will tell you he killed Vince Foster--in other words, a third will say something they know is a lie if it serves a political purpose.

That's Bush's base. The people who will never admit Bush sucks, even as they know it to be true.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 09:07 PM
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29. Sounds good.
Damn, and they can vote too!
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 05:09 PM
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5. Translation: "57% of Americans are devil-worshipping terrorists!!!"
:spank:
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 05:10 PM
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6. Nah nah nah nah, nah nah nah nah, hey hey, good-bye! n/t
:rofl:
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 05:12 PM
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9. Wake me when it gets to 20%
which is what I think will be the "Duh, oh, yeah, I recognize that name from somewhere" segment of the population.
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Massacure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 06:40 PM
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20. Won't happen. 30% of voters blindly follow whater sheep is labeled a repub
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 05:17 PM
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10. What are the historic lows for past Prezs? Anyone know? n/t
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 05:46 PM
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15. Nixon hit 25% approval in July 1974 according to this article...
http://www.ariannaonline.com/columns/column.php?id=418

If my memory is correct, he dropped to 17% right before he resigned.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 05:58 PM
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17. Compared to *, he's lookin' pretty good now. I'm so ashamed for
saying that!:spank: But it's true, I'd take him in a minute over *.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 08:35 PM
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27. In 1973, I thought Nixon was the epitome of evil...Today, he looks like a
statesman in comparison to Reagan, Bush I and Bush II. I cannot believe I've lived long enough to have Richard Nixon look good by comparison to ANYONE!

Its a clear indicator or just how far to the right America has shifted since 1968.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 09:06 PM
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28. That's where I was back then too. May you live in interesting times.
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foo_bar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 11:00 PM
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36. Nixon was one man
These guys are a cabal. Picture * without Rove or Cheney: it's like Rain Man.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-17-05 05:36 AM
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38. Yes, but Dustin Hoffman could ride a bicycle without bruising his face
or breaking the law.:+
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 05:18 PM
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11. So it's most likely much lower
and this is the best they could do.

Guess that trip to Europe didn't help.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 05:32 PM
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13. The Europe Trip did nothing...he's probably at 37% but still this doesn't
look good for Rove's Spin Machine. This is his second low and given that the media is in "blackout" and the propaganda assault is in warp speed...gotta say that they are going to take this badly...and will start to bring out the tanks and the vaporizors. After all...they don't know any better.

We will probably be into Iran or Syria within two months if not sooner.
Because, they think WAR will be the only way to get the Murkin's to see the "Emperor" as the hero he is for bringing Democracy to the world. They are DESPERATE! And EVIL!
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 05:26 PM
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12. Same place we were last year. Let's hope this time it sticks. . .
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 05:46 PM
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14. It's interesting to note how
his poll #'s are in the tank a week before the election, but he wins anyway, then a week later , he's sliding down the hole again.

Something stinks here.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 06:08 PM
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19. Its also interesting to note
that Pew's final election poll showed Bush winning 51-48.

Buyer's remorse sets in a few months later, I don't see anything out of the ordinary.
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 07:32 PM
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21. You mean there's something rotten in the state of... Ohio?
Edited on Mon May-16-05 07:32 PM by Blue Belle
Say it isn't so...

:sarcasm:
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 07:43 PM
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24. I blame it on a negative campaign by BushCo.
That was all they had. Nobody could really defend Bush's record with a straight face. So as soon as it isn't Bush vs. the homo war criminal liberal gigilo, and it's just Bush, he tanks. Simple as that.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 09:35 PM
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34. terra alert! terra alert!
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Sooner75 Donating Member (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 06:06 PM
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18. Democratic pollster
Read of a Democratic pollster who said that 42% was about as low as Bush could probably go.

If Nixon had 25% approval in July 1974 -- just before he resigned -- that ought to tell you something..... Namely, that we ought to help him lose another 18 points.

Personally, I think the Downing Street memo MIGHT be just the thing.
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BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 07:42 PM
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23. popular wartime douchebag.
Edited on Mon May-16-05 07:43 PM by BlueManDude
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 07:46 PM
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25. 43% approve, 50% disapprove, 7% unsure
It's those 7% who are unsure we need to enlighten and educate.
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 07:54 PM
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26. LOL! How much you wanna bet Rethug Hack Pollster Rasmussen..
..has different numbers? When does he come out with his bogus poll anyway?

Scott Rasmussen makes me sick! :puke: I know there's one person on here that defends him to the bitter end, but KOS and other sites have explained him in detail (why he'll occassionally show Bush down, but why he won't ever keep it down longer than a certain amount of days).. and he lies like a dog.

It's good to see that Pew and other polling agencies are reporting the correct data! :) :thumbsup:
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Dragonfli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 09:26 PM
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31. As Predicted
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Bush_Job_Approval.htm

Monday May 16, 2005--Fifty percent (50%) of American adults approve of the way George W. Bush is performing his role as President. Forty-nine percent (49%) disapprove.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 09:15 PM
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30. Notice that the 50% disapproval is the highest ever
for this poll.

IMHO, the Pew group tends toward the religiously conservative and gives * higher numbers than other polls. So I wonder what the REAL numbers are?

And when does the disaffection motivate people to take ACTION to change things politically?
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cyr330 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 09:29 PM
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32. Dropping like a rock!
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 09:34 PM
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33. come on, guys, let's nominate this thread
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 10:11 PM
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35. Boo hoo.
Poor babies.

We need a "bleeding heart" smiley. :)
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johnnyrocket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 11:05 PM
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37. But--but- I thought he was the 'popular wartime president'...
gawd, when is the shit going to be exposed? The shit that is the Bush administration.
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