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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 05:26 PM
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If you're mad about the Downing Street memo getting no attention...
then you must be really pissed about the
absence of media attention on Bush Inc.'s
complicity in 9/11.

You need to inform yourselves. Start in
the September 11 Forum at DU.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 05:32 PM
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1. Links for those not in the know?
Downing Street's, for example?

Most of us could conjecture Bush may have bene complicit in 9/11, but without links we'd sound obtuse to the extreme. :-(
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 05:33 PM
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4. Here
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 01:15 PM
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40. Thanks for the link Nite Owl -
The letter is signed....."Mission Accomplished"
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 05:32 PM
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2. Excellent work over there.
I think that the ground has to be laid to get that out. We have to break down the 'trust' that people seem to have in him first or they won't believe it.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 05:35 PM
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6. There is initial shock after looking at the details
and unanswered questions, but once you
get over the conclusion that this administration
was complicit in not only letting 9/11 happen,
but adding to it, you just want the truth
to be exposed.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 05:33 PM
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3. I wonder why no mainstream in-depth, Frontline type documentaries
on 9/11.

Not really. They couldn't very well do that without exploring why the whole OCT just don't add up. No wonder they don't cover the stolen elections. Our corporate news media are co-conspirators in covering the crimes of this administration.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 05:39 PM
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8. I guess we'll have to wait for Oliver Stone
as soon as he pays his bail.
:-)
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 06:03 PM
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12. blackmail
bushinc uses the prediliction of the american media (displayed best by the corporate media's longterm insistence that lee harvey oswald killed pres. kennedy all alone) to go with the rightwing flow when faced with any choice, thus becoming dupes of petty criminals! bushinc blatantly stole the 2000 election, and they had proof they did....this put the bushloving mediawhores in a tight spot, as they had ruthlessly promoted the gopig over the democrats, the richpig over the common folk for 20 years or more....then the 911 disaster put the kabosh on any expose of bushinc's illegitimacy (indeed, bushinc's very crimes are what's mainly protecting it i believe!) because if the truth got loose, 300 thousand american mediawhores probably get put down along with bushinc...what's pleasing about the whole bushinc phonomenon is that true conservatives like bob dole, arlen spector and the punks running much of society, plus the fox/cnn media etc can only watch as that which they'd die for if engineered by a leftist or anarchist movement, is systematically ruined by bushinc, for nothing but some insane greed reacting to the idea of universal justice and wellbeing which is the hope of the hated liberalism!
nothing fails like success when working for the devil....and bush is certainly a devil :)
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 06:05 PM
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13. some say he is.....nt
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 05:35 PM
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5. I like your style !
Edited on Sat May-28-05 05:40 PM by hiley


5-Minute Video of George W. Bush on the Morning of 9/11
http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/bush-911.htm
This might give a push..
solidarity
hiley
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 05:38 PM
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7. I haven't understood why more DUers haven't been on this one
There are some dedicated DUers and others
working to uncover the truth about 9/11.

I first woke up when I saw David Ray Griffin's
speech at the University of Wisconsin that
aired on Cspan a month or so ago...read
The New Pearl Harbor and his latest: The
9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and
Distortions.

You'll wake up too.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 06:06 PM
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14. Griffin's new essay - The 9/11 Commission Report: A 571-Page Lie
http://www.septembereleventh.org/newsarchive/2005-05-22-571pglie.php

The 9/11 Commission Report: A 571-Page Lie
by Dr. David Ray Griffin
9/11 Visibility Project
Sunday, May 22, 2005

In discussing my second 9/11 book, The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions, I have often said, only half in jest, that a better title might have been “a 571-page lie.” (Actually, I was saying “a 567-page lie,” because I was forgetting to count the four pages of the Preface.) In making this statement, one of my points has been that the entire Report is constructed in support of one big lie: that the official story about 9/11 is true.

Another point, however, is that in the process of telling this overall lie, The 9/11 Commission Report tells many lies about particular issues. This point is implied by my critique’s subtitle, “Omissions and Distortions.” It might be thought, to be sure, that of the two types of problems signaled by those two terms, only those designated “distortions” can be considered lies.

It is better, however, to understand the two terms as referring to two types of lies: implicit and explicit. We have an explicit lie when the Report claims that the core of each of the Twin Towers consisted of a hollow steel shaft or when it claims that Vice President Cheney did not give the shoot-down order until after 10:10 that morning. But we have an implicit lie when the Commission, in its discussion of the 19 alleged suicide hijackers, omits the fact that at least six of them have credibly been reported to be still alive, or when it fails to mention the fact that Building 7 of the World Trade Center collapsed. Such omissions are implicit lies partly because they show that the Commission did not honor its stated intention “to provide the fullest possible account of the events surrounding 9/11.” They are also lies insofar as the Commission could avoid telling an explicit lie about the issue in question only by not mentioning it, which, I believe, was the case in at least most instances.

Given these two types of lies, it might be wondered how many lies are contained in The 9/11 Commission Report. I do not know. But, deciding to see how many lies I had discussed in my book, I found that I had identified over 100 of them. Once I had made the list, it occurred to me that others might find this summary helpful. Hence this article.

continued
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 06:23 PM
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18. The morning it happened I knew MIHOP, felt it..
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 06:46 PM
Response to Reply #18
19. thanks hiley...interesting to read the posts on DU that day and
the following week...a lot of questions
were asked that are still answered by this
government.
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BamaBecky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 06:10 PM
Response to Reply #7
26. Make copies of it and give it out....n/t!
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 06:37 PM
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27. Bama Petition here at this link...
Edited on Sun May-29-05 06:53 PM by hiley
Did you catch some of the quotes in 24 and 25th posts of this thread?
Chilling.

911 For the Truth

- Sign the Petition
To: President of the United States and Members of Congress
911 For the Truth of Mariani vs. Bush

On September 11, 2001, ("911") the United States of America was attacked resulting in an International War on Terror declared by President George W. Bush without the approval of the United States Congress.

I believe and support the legal action brought by Ellen Mariani against Defendant George W. Bush, et al and demand the "truth" regarding the "911" attacks.

I support Ellen Mariani's federal cause of action!

Sincerely,

The Undersigned
http://www.geocities.com/september911surprise/


http://piratenews.org/

http://faculty.ncwc.edu/Jchristensen/POL%20495a/495a%20syllabus.htm

I don't trust government. And neither should our citizens."
—US Senator Larry Craig, United States Senate, Committee on the Judiciary, "DOJ Oversight: Terrorism and Other Topics", testimony by US Attorney General John Ashcroft re President George Bush Jr.'s Executive Orders to "legalize torture" of US citizens and refusal to release that memo (felony Contempt of Congress), C-SPAN2, June 8, 2004
http://judiciary.senate.gov/hearing.cfm?id=1212
"There are some things the general public does not need to know and shouldn't. I believe democracy flourishes when the government can take legitimate steps to keep its secrets and when the press can decide whether to print what it knows."
—Katharine Graham, chairman of Washington Post Company, lecturing CIA agents at CIA HQ in Langley, Virginia

"If I allowed my honest opinions to appear in one issue of my paper, before twenty-four hours my occupation would be gone. The business of journalists is to destroy the truth; to pervert; to vilify; to fawn at the feet of mammon, and to sell this country and this race for their daily bread. We are the tools and vessels for rich men behind the scenes. We are the jumping jacks, they pull the strings and we dance. Our talents, our possibilities and our lives are all the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
—John Swinton, Chief of Staff of the New York Times and "Dean of his Profession", in a toast at New York Press Club
http://piratenews.org/911.html
http://www.prisonplanet.com/audio_archive_may_2003.html


Agency planned exercise on Sept. 11 built around a plane crashing into a building
Wed Aug 21, 7:45 PM ET
By JOHN J. LUMPKIN, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - In what the government describes as a bizarre coincidence, one U.S. intelligence agency was planning an exercise last Sept. 11 in which an errant aircraft would crash into one of its buildings. But the cause wasn't terrorism — it was to be a simulated accident.



Officials at the Chantilly, Virginia-based National Reconnaissance Office had scheduled an exercise that morning in which a small corporate jet would crash into one of the four towers at the agency's headquarters building after experiencing a mechanical failure.

snip---

Agency chiefs came up with the scenario to test employees' ability to respond to a disaster, said spokesman Art Haubold. No actual plane was to be involved — to simulate the damage from the crash, some stairwells and exits were to be closed off, forcing employees to find other ways to evacuate the building.

"It was just an incredible coincidence that this happened to involve an aircraft crashing into our facility," Haubold said. "As
snip---
http://www.prisonplanet.com/agency_planned_exercise_on_sept_11_built_around_a_plane_crashing_into_a_building.htm

"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free... it expects what never was and never will be."
—President Thomas Jefferson


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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 06:56 PM
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29. I hadn't heard of Mrs. Mariani before...
Wow. I wish her a safe and successful journey....
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 05:48 PM
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9. Wonder what he's thinking about?
How the "event" could go wrong and how it would lead back to the PNAC planners in his administration? Wondering how he could be the 1st pResident impeached/arrested/tried/and found guilty of crimes against this country?

Or is he thinking about that 1st crash he saw on TV and musing how that was "one bad pilot"?
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 05:51 PM
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10. wondering what Cheney planned on doing next....nt
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 06:56 PM
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20. maybe, hmm never thought we could pull
it off...
I don't believe dictator is really the power just the one "placed there" .

http://www.constitution.org/shad4816.htm

The Power of Nightmares - Part I
Baby It’s Cold Outside”

In the past our politicians offered us dreams of a better world. Now they promise to protect us from nightmares.

The most frightening of these is the threat of an international terror network. But just as the dreams were not true, neither are these nightmares.

This is a must watch documentary - Broadcast BBC 2 10/20/04 - Written and Produced by Adam Curtis

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/video1037.htm



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VO: In the early ‘70s, Irving Kristol became the focus of a group of disaffected intellectuals in Washington. They were determined to understand why the optimistic liberal policies had failed. And they found the answer in the theories of Leo Strauss. Strauss explained that it was the very basis of the liberal idea—the belief in individual freedom—that was causing the chaos, because it undermined the shared moral framework that held society together. Individuals pursued their own selfish interests, and this inevitably led to conflict. As the movement grew, many young students who had studied Strauss’ ideas came to Washington to join this group. Some, like Paul Wolfowitz, had been taught Strauss’ ideas at the University of Chicago, as had Francis Fukuyama. And others, like Irving Kristol’s son William, had studied Strauss’ theories at Harvard. This group became known as the neoconservatives.

WILLIAM KRISTOL: Well, many of them couldn’t get academic jobs, and the political science and philosophy faculties were not terribly friendly to those of a conservative or moderately conservative disposition. And the truth is that a lot of people who ended up in Washington started out as academics. I did; Paul Wolfowitz did; and decided they probably didn’t have very good prospects in the academy. What we all had in common, I think, was a certain doubt about what once seemed a kind of great certainty and confidence in liberal progress. The philosophic grounds for liberal democracy had been weakened. So I think Straussians who came to Washington, they didn’t think of themselves as Churchill or Lincoln, let me assure you, but they did that, you know, there’s something noble about public life, and about politics, and they tried to make a contribution in many different areas.

VO: The neoconservatives were idealists. Their aim was to try and stop the social disintegration they believed liberal freedoms had unleashed. They wanted to find a way of uniting the people, by giving them a shared purpose. One of their great influences in doing this would be the theories of Leo Strauss. They would set out to recreate the myth of America as a unique nation whose destiny was to battle against evil in the world. And in this project, the source of evil would be America’s Cold War enemy: the Soviet Union. And by doing this, they believed that they would not only give new meaning and purpose to people’s lives, but they would spread the good of democracy around the world.
snip--
Part 2 is on same page, click and download both to watch


The making of the terror myth

Since September 11 Britain has been warned of the 'inevitability' of catastrophic terrorist attack. But has the danger been exaggerated? A major new TV documentary claims that the perceived threat is a politically driven fantasy - and al-Qaida a dark illusion. Andy Beckett reports

Friday October 15, 2004
The Guardian

Since the attacks on the United States in September 2001, there have been more than a thousand references in British national newspapers, working out at almost one every single day, to the phrase "dirty bomb". There have been articles about how such a device can use ordinary explosives to spread lethal radiation; about how London would be evacuated in the event of such a detonation; about the Home Secretary David Blunkett's statement on terrorism in November 2002 that specifically raised the possibility of a dirty bomb being planted in Britain; and about the arrests of several groups of people, the latest only last month, for allegedly plotting exactly that.
Starting next Wednesday, BBC2 is to broadcast a three-part documentary series that will add further to what could be called the dirty bomb genre. But, as its title suggests, The Power of Nightmares: The Rise of the Politics of Fear takes a different view of the weapon's potential.
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/video1037.htm
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 06:02 PM
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11. Informational teaser
For those unfamiliar with the subject, please read the link in my sig line - it'll curl your toes (and sadden, anger and depress you.)

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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 06:07 PM
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16. thanks...aside from the September 11 forum
there are great links out there to inform yourselves.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 06:07 PM
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15. The Democrats have to make a bigger deal out of it..
'Cause that is the way the media works...they wait for one Party to accuse the other. Democrats cannot sit back and wait for the media to report...it will not happen. But they might report if the Democrats make a big stink out of the Downing St memo and the Bolton documents also. There has to be a certain degree of conflict and contention, else it doesn't get reported. Our Party is weak in criticising the Repubs at the same intensity that is required and that the Repubs know how to do.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 06:09 PM
Response to Reply #15
17. I feel like it's time to do this but I'm not doing the research...
but certainly we can pepper the MSM
with questions that are out there to
be asked.
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-05 07:32 PM
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21. MSM, don't think so
Edited on Sat May-28-05 07:35 PM by hiley
Speckle here and there maybe, but don't get your hopes up with the MSM. This is something that we have to do ourselves. Easier way to learn, if you don't enjoy reading a lot is get dish satellite (if you don't have it) watch freespeechtv, linktv there are shows with info all the time. Some shows and documentaries you can download and watch for free at different links I have put in this thread.

http://innworldreport.net/index.htm
http://www.freespeech.org/fsitv/fscm2/genx.php?name=home
http://democracynow.org/

Featured Video & Audio
From the Freespeech TV Program library
Shocking and Awful Series is the best
on this page/to me anyhow
http://www.freespeech.org/fsitv/fscm2/genx.php?name=featured_videos

Really, we are not even supposed to talk about 9/11 truth here in the open so MSM might as well forget about that for right now.
It is a miracle that David Ray Griffin was on CSPAN twice during day light ! The guy that wrote Economic HitMan can't even be on MSM you know he is only on shows like DemocracyNow! or I.N.N.World Report. His book has been on the NYTimes best seller lists .

Next "terror" attack and we will have a complete Police State.
It is true.
hiley
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 10:01 AM
Response to Reply #21
22. thanks again for those links
at the least, educating your family
and friends is the beginning.
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 04:52 PM
Response to Reply #22
23.  realFedUp I hope you will use them and share them with everyone!
Solidarity is our only hope...
Marilyn

“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."
Theodore Roosevelt, 1912

"This so-called ill treatment and torture in detention centers, stories of which were spread everywhere among the people, and later by the prisoners who were freed … were not, as some assumed,inflicted methodically, but were excesses committed by individual prison guards, their deputies, and men who laid violent hands on the detainees."
Rudolf Hoess,
the SS commandant at Auschwitz.

One thing is for certain: There won't be any more mass graves and
torture rooms and rape rooms."—Bush, press availability in Monterrey,
Mexico, Jan. 12, 2004

Sign our Petition Letter and Pledge Your Commitment to Denounce Torture

As part of the Denounce Torture: Stop It Now! initiative, Amnesty International USA is hoping to have at least 250,000 people living in the United States sign a special statement against torture. Amnesty International USA will use this petition letter in our efforts to show the Bush Administration, Congress, and others that those living in the United States are strongly opposed to torture and ill-treatment in all circumstances.

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Please take action now by signing the statement! Be the 9446th to sign!
Torture and other cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment are despicable, immoral, illegal and always wrong. The highest authorities in my country should publicly denounce these acts in the strongest possible terms, and never utilize them, not least in my name.

Governments around the world should not only condemn but prosecute to the full extent of the law any of these acts by our own agents, whether in this country or anywhere else we have control. No one should be held in secret, beyond the eyes of snip--
http://takeaction.amnestyusa.org/petition/Index.asp?id=30
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3745855

14 Defining Characteristics of Fascism
http://www.ericblumrich.com/14.html


Depleted Uranium Weapons use has to be stopped immediately, the use of these weapons is a War Crime.

Look at the pictures on this link I provide and know this is happening to American children as well, just not in such great numbers as those of Iraqi children.

These mid-wives are purported to have said they no longer look forward to births as.... "We don't know what's going to come out."

http://www.web-light.nl/VISIE/extremedeformities.html

"You Must be the Change you Wish to see in the world"

Mahatma Gandhi (1869-1948)

http://www.gandhiproject.org/project/project.html
www.missionnotaccomplished.us - how ever long it takes, the day must come when tens of millions of caring individuals peacefully but persistently defy the dictator, deny the corporatists cash flow, and halt the evil being done in Iraq and in all the other places the Bu$h neoconster regime is destroying civilization and the environment in the name of "America."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3742495



solidarity

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1814546
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INFOWARS.COM'S MARTIAL LAW ARCHIVE

From General Tommy Franks declairing that the Constitution will be replaced by martial law after the next terror attack to the breakdown of Posse Comitatus, here is just a small sampling of the articles we've read over the years pointing to martial law in America


hiley

I have hope !

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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 05:13 PM
Response to Reply #15
25. ...
"Without censorship, things can get terribly confused in the public mind."
–US General William Westmoreland, Commander in Vietnam

"The greatest triumphs of propaganda have been accomplished, not by doing something, but by refraining from doing. Great is truth, but still greater, from a practical point of view, is silence about truth."
–Aldous Huxley

"The process has to be conscious, or it would not be carried out with sufficient precision, but it also has to be unconscious, or it would bring with it a feeling of falsity and hence of guilt. ... To tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them, to forget any fact that has become inconvenient, and then, when it becomes necessary again, to draw it back from oblivion for just so long as it is needed, to deny the existence of objective reality and all the while to take account of the reality which one denies -- all this is indispensably necessary."
–George Orwell,on "Doublethink", from his book of faction, 1984

"I can tell you that democracy is not an easy form of government for military professionals. We are subjected to civilian leaders and all manner of congressional oversight committees composed of both experts and amateurs who demand accountability from us and who question every request and all our needs. Yes, democracy for a military professional is hard."
General Colin Powell, 4-star general, USAF TIG-BRIEF magazine, July-August 1991, Chairman, US Joint Chiefs of Staff during Iran-Contra crimes, ensuring Pentagon's cooperation with drug-importaion, murderous coup d'etats with Nazi war criminal Klaus Barbi (Butcher of Lyon), illegal weapons sales/grants/training to terrorist nations Iran/Iraq/Afganistan (USA bin Laden) -- and now US Secretary of State, USA's ranking "diplomat"

"You wouldn't believe what really goes on."
–Master Gunnery Sargeant, Dr. Stoney Merriman, PhD, newspaper editor of Carthage Courrier, TN (Al Gore's hometown), public affairs contract employee for the Pentagon, former Public Affairs Chief for the Marine Corps at the Pentagon, explaining that US Special Forces rescued President Qaddafi from the USAF and USN bombs that rained on Libya in Operation El Dorado Canyon in 1986, killing at least 37 innocent civilians as they slept in their homes. 20 months later, US gov blamed Libya gov when Pan Am Flight 103, exploded at 31,000 feet. 259 bodies and suitcases of heroin rained down on the roofs of Lockerbie, Scotland, killing eleven more people on the ground, forcing bankruptcy of Pan Am airlines. However, Pan Am's investigation revealed the White House's CIA/DEA drug dealers bombed the airliner to murder a team of Pentagon cops. NBC News reported that "Pan Am flights from Frankfurt, including 103, had been used a number of times by the DEA to fly suitcases of heroin into Detroit." CIA/DEA employee/patsy convicted of the terrorist murders.

"This is totalitarianism! It has nothing to do with Democrat or Republican. These five Supreme Court Justices belong behind bars!"
–Vincent Bugliosi on FOX "NEWS", May 2001, prosecutor of Charles Manson and author of The Betrayal of America: How the Supreme Court Undermined the Constitution. Bugliosi's similar article in The Nation drew the largest reader response in its 136-year history.

http://www.geocities.com/skull_and_bones_nazis/
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 05:08 PM
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24. by Hitler's Nazis and George Bush's CIA
BRIEF HISTORY OF COVERT "INTELLIGENCE" OPERATIONS
by Hitler's Nazis and George Bush's CIA
Dirty tricks and lies create dictatorships, deal drugs & start wars

Bushit

"All propaganda has to be popular and has to adapt its spiritual level to the perception of the least intelligent of those towards whom it intends to direct itself. The great masses of the people will more easily fall victims to a big lie than to a small one."
—Adolf Hitler, President of the Reichstag and Reich Chancellor, Nazi Party
Hitler surveying his handiwork at Reichstag

"Naturally, the common people don't want war. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism."
—Hermann Goering, President of the Reichstag, Nazi Party, and Luftwaffe Commander in Chief

"First of all, let me assert my firm belief that the only thing we have to fear is fear itself—Nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror.... The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism, ownership of the government by the individual, by a group, or any controlling private power."
—President Franklin Roosevelt

"Liberty cannot be preserved without a general knowledge among the people, who have a right and a desire to know; but besides this, they have a right, an indisputable, unalienable, indefeasible, devine right to know that most dreaded and envied kind of knowledge, I mean of the characters and conduct of their rulers."
—John Adams

"The US Vice-President, Dick Cheney, revealed in a television interview over the weekend that President George Bush had given an order last Tuesday for the military to shoot down anycivilian aircraft that disregarded instructions from air trafficcontrol and appeared to be a threat. The fourth hijacked plane, United Airlines Flight 93 fromNewark to San Francisco, was thought to be on its way toWashington but crashed in rural Pennsylvania following somekind of altercation between the hijackers and a group ofpassengers determined to thwart their plans. The rumours that this plane was shot down are based on thefact that debris was found up to eight miles from the crash site,that one of the passengers talking on a mobile phone reportedhearing an explosion and seeing a plume of white smoke in thecabin, and that eyewitnesses saw a second aircraft in the skyat the time of the crash."
--The Independent, London, England, September 20, 2001

"The President, Vice-President, and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors."
—Constitution of the United States

http://www.bushnews.com/


"Without censorship, things can get terribly confused in the public mind."
–US General William Westmoreland, Commander in Vietnam



http://www.geocities.com/skull_and_bones_nazis/
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 06:46 PM
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28. I like your blogsite Hiley...nt
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 12:03 PM
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38. Thank you, I hope you looked at the second one, it is the best of
of the two.
Try this link, my friend BamaBecky gave me this morning !
http://tinyurl.com/ar9hp

archives of Black op radio. http://www.blackopradio.com /

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Yankee Blue Veteran Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 07:11 PM
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30. I believe E V E R Y T H I N G my government tells me. Don't you?
EXTRA! EXTRA! READ ALL ABOUT IT! CAVEMAN COMBAT KILLS!

A caveman from the other side of the world penetrated the greatest strategic military and intelligence defenses the world has ever known and slaughtered more than 3,000 people on our own soil with only 20 recruits!

WOW!

Let me repeat that one more time, just so I can really get my mind around this: A caveman from the other side of the world penetrated the greatest strategic military and intelligence defenses the world has ever known and slaughtered more than 3,000 people on our own soil with only 20 recruits!

If that’s true, then we’re all in big trouble, people, and in order to survive, we must get rid of present failed leadership, eliminate the lies and liars—the traitors—among us and help our patriots kill the caveman, and elect wise and brave and truthful patriots to lead us.

If that’s not true, then we’re all in BIG trouble, people, and in order to survive, we must get rid of present failed leadership, expose and kill the leadership that killed our 3,000 people and eliminate the lies and liars—the traitors—among us, and elect wise and brave and truthful patriots to lead us.

If a caveman from the other side of the world penetrated the greatest strategic military and intelligence defenses the world has ever known and slaughtered more than 3,000 people on our own soil with only 20 recruits, imagine what a modern foreign military force of 2 million recruits would do: With present failed leadership, a modern foreign military force of 2 million recruits would wipe out our entire American population of 300 million!

A once revered and honored war leader assured us long ago, “We have nothing to fear but fear itself,” so present failed leadership prioritized, categorized and colorized all our fears for us – but how do we know who and what to fear the most first? Should it be:

A caveman from the other side of the world who penetrated the greatest strategic military and intelligence defenses the world has ever known and slaughtered more than 3,000 people on our own soil with only 20 recruits?—OR the modern foreign military force of 2 million recruits that would wipe out our entire American population of 300 million?—OR present failed leadership that allowed a caveman from the other side of the world to penetrate the greatest strategic military and intelligence defenses the world has ever known and slaughter more than 3,000 people on our own soil with only 20 recruits.

Wake up and wise up, people!
Stop believing lies and liars!
Stop fearing those who fear us!
Stop honoring cowards who dishonor us!
Stop defending leaders who fail to defend us!
Stop excusing failures of present failed leadership!
Stop enabling hypocrites who worship only mammon!

When the sentry at his post falls asleep and his squad or platoon is attacked, then if that sentry survives the attack, the sentry is subject to court martial and a firing squad for falling asleep while on duty. No matter how the story is told, 'Doh'bya was either asleep at his post on 911 or he aided and abetted the most heinous crime in American History. Either way, this creature should be brought to Justice! There are millions of Patriots who would willingly be a part of the firing squad for the sentry in the White House who either fell asleep at his post or committed the worst kinds of treachery. Then we would go on down the chain of command until someone would be willing to accept responsibility without snickering.

If there be any girlie-Bushies around here: ANY QUESTIONS, GIRLIE-BUSHIES?

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Shrubhater Donating Member (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 07:33 PM
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31. What's the downing street memo?
I ask you!
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 07:38 PM
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33. here again...
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 07:36 PM
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32. amen to THAT!
for some reason i've been having chronic headaches -- and it's no freakin' wonder -- all the cognitive dissonance you have to deal with just to get thru a day!

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Pooka Fey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 07:44 PM
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34. Yup that about sums it up. MIHOP.
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 08:10 PM
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35. We do have some good news, not about 9/11 though
Downing Street Memo
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3751299

Velvet Revolution Joins Citizens Group in Calling for Official Congressional Investigation Into Downing Street Memo

http://news.yahoo.com/s/usnw/20050527/pl_usnw/velvet_revolution_joins_citizens_group_in_calling_for_official_congressional_investigation_into_downing_street_memo105_xml
To: National Desk


Contact: Ilene Proctor of Velvet Revolution, 310-271-5857, Info@VelvetRevolution.us


WASHINGTON, May 27 /U.S. Newswire/ -- Velvet Revolution -- http://www.velvetrevolution.us -- has joined a broad coalition of veterans, peace, and political activist groups to announce a campaign today to urge that the U.S. Congress launch a formal investigation into whether President Bush has committed impeachable offenses in connection with the Iraq war.


The campaign focuses on evidence that recently emerged in an official British memo containing minutes of a secret July 2002 meeting between British Prime Minister Tony Blair and his top national security advisors.


John Bonifaz, a Boston attorney specializing
snip---
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-05 10:11 PM
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36. anyone without the complicity of the media, justice dept, & military
would be gone by now.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 10:17 AM
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42. for the Tuesday crowd...
this is a reality show.
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BamaBecky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 07:45 AM
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37. Go listen to this Interview
Edited on Mon May-30-05 07:46 AM by BamaBecky
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 12:21 PM
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39. BamaBecky here is the tinyurl to your link..
http://tinyurl.com/ar9hp

archives of Black op radio. http://www.blackopradio.com /
Thanks !
:nuke:
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-05 02:41 PM
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41. "THE LAW" AUDIO"
was fantastic!
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BamaBecky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 05:55 PM
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44. How do you find??? "The Law" Audio
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Yankee Blue Veteran Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-05 11:02 AM
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43. The Pipelineistan Tour Guide
PIPELINEISTAN

Devil went down to Georgia just to
Ogle his Stream of Gold;
Patriot threw a hand grenade but the
Damned thing didn’t explode.



On May 25, 2005, Pipelineistan declared its independence as a Nation/State and a supreme law unto itself. Only 44 meters (144.4 feet) wide by 1,767 kilometers (1,098 miles) in length, the life’s blood of Pipelineistan flows through only one vein 126 cm (49.6 inches, or 4.1 feet) in diameter. This serpent with 150,000 sets of ribs writhes from the Caspian Sea through the Caucasus and stretches onward to the Mediterranean Coast of Turkey next door to the massive American airbase at Incirlik, so it has escaped completely from the confines of the Garden of Eden and is now extant in a new form upon the world.

Devil came out of Texas when his
Daddy’s whores crowned ‘Their Boy’;
Nations now suffer needlessly from our
Girlie-Bush corporate toy.

Pipelineistan is the embodiment of the perfect corporate despotic ‘utopian nirvana’: There are no—zero, zip, nada, ling, as in “none”—environmental laws affecting Pipelineistan. Pipelineistan has no need for any form of governmental framework because this Nation/State is devoid of any potentially nasty Nationalistic Citizenry which would foment some form of rebellion or revolution in behalf of whomever and whatever idea in behalf of people. Pipelineistan is a sovereignty unto itself because only the world petroleum elite control it; therefore, no one can be held responsible in any way, under any jurisdiction of any Country in the world. Pipelineistan is completely unaffected by weather, emotion and morality.

Remember: A corporation has been defined by a Supreme Court Justice as being an entity without a heart and without a soul. . .and some would say that that is a very accurate definition, if not the epitome, of the Devil.

Akashic Record: The girlie-Bush epoch is the vilest in the entire History of Mankind.

Not even HALF the world suffered the pain of eliminating what Germany spawned.
AND BLOOD FLOWED!

The ENTIRE world will suffer the travail of excreting what Texas has spawned!
AND MUCH, MUCH MORE BLOOD WILL FLOW!

Happy Memorial Day, Y’all!
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