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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 07:39 AM
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So much for the "Rove the genius" fantasy
He was never more than a cheap-o smear artist. The only reason they got away with it for so long is because they control all three branches of gvt and the congress/senate have been their rubber stamp. The MSM smells blood now, its too juicy for them to ignore (With smirks polls in a freefall and all). How will Rove smear his way out of this mess? Smearing is what got him here. Its all they have. The Emperor now stands before us naked as a jaybird.
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Dulcinea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 07:42 AM
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1. He's not a genius.
He sold half the nation a defective product, which makes him nothing more than a con artist.

Goodbye & good riddance to bad rubbish (I hope & pray.)
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 07:42 AM
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2. Considering the number of times he's been caught with his hand
in the cookie jar -- Genius is a word I would never have used. Rove "the Scam Artist" would be closer for me. He was caught in Illinois, Texas and by Bush I (He was fired by Bush). A genius is someone who doesn't get caught.
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CrackpotAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 07:43 AM
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3. I have always felt that:
He lacked complexity.

Anyone can cheat, but to win by playing by the rules is what makes a champion.

Basically, we are witnessing the ultimate example of what happens when one cheats to win.

Sadly, we are the ones who are paying the highest price.
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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 07:48 AM
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4. I have always said this. It's easy to smear, lie, cheat, intimidate when
you have the power of the Presidency behind you. There was nothing genius about a con job on the RW-Christian fundametalists to support Bush, support the Israeli neocon structure running our government by appealing to their fears and stupidity. They have next to nothing in common with the Jewish religion except that Jesus was a Jew who broke away from Judiaism. They have no more in common than with Muslims but the promise of opening the Federal coffers for "faith-based" whatever was just enough to get the leaders to sway their mindless flocks to vote for Republicans at their own and this nation's peril. Karl is a criminal genius like most top criminal and evil minds. That's not brilliance. That's just evil.
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Mist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 07:54 AM
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5. Rove has always had rabid RW's on his side-people who would
go anywhere and do anything he told them to. He's not a genius, but he is a sharp operator, with plenty of cunning and determination. But without those armies of RW's, and heavy funding from Scaife and others, he'd never have come so far.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 07:55 AM
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6. The higher they climb, the further they fall.
It's a well known corollary to the Peter Principle.
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 08:00 AM
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7. And for years the press adored and feared him
How many times did we hear a comparison to Svengali or Machiavelli - or even Einstein...

Karl Rove was nothing more than a Lee Atwater copycat.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 08:18 AM
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8. And yet, he was still Bush's Brain.
Kinda makes you think....
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winston61 Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 09:42 AM
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9. not a genius--
Just no morals, integrity or conscience. Rove succeeded because he was always more than willing to do anything to win. You only have to gage the limits that your opponent will not cross and then cross it. And it does not help to be a fellow repuke. Just look what he did to McCain in S.C. in 2000. Anyone who lives down here in Texas is not surprised by any thing Rove has done. But power corrupts. He did make a mistake. He thought that business in D.C. would be the same as in Austin, where he could do anything he wanted. He and Cheney both made the mistake of fucking with the CIA. Those boys play hard ball and there are some things Goss can't control. Bush shares some blame, he probably knew what Rove and Cheney were up to and was too lazy or dis-interested to stop it. So arrogant or fucking dumb to realize that sooner or later it would catch up to them. As Ward Churchill put it 'On Chickens Coming Home to Roost'. In this case however it may be a vulture circling to pick the bones. Good riddance to piss poor trash. They should rot in hell in the next world if not in prison in this one.
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cybildisobedience Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 12:32 PM
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13. hear, hear
What you said is exactly dead-on. When you're not bound by morals, integrity, guilt, a conscience -- whatever you want to call it -- you have a lot more options open to you.
Add in a compliant press who refuses to expose you and your candidate for what you are, and you have a recipe for success.
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 10:07 AM
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10. Just smile and keep remembering he was Time's "Man of the Year"
...once upon a WH fantasy.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 10:32 AM
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11. The mask has been removed, and now Rove shows his true face.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 12:32 PM
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12. I've said this for years -
He ain't no jeenyus, his following shares the same brain. He's Sun Myung Moon in a pasty white-guy outfit. And he's gonna be a prison biznatch soon.
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 04:52 PM
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14. Scam artist is right
I have to admit he was a fairly clever scam artist, but I absolutely draw the line before genius. Lots of people could have thought up his cynical schemes but most would know that in the long run, this kind of stuff won't work. In the end, Karl may have brought down the whole Republican party. Not exactly the success of a political genius.
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 10:18 PM
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15. He is the American Chalabi.
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frogmarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 10:29 PM
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16. I can still see
the porker after one of the Kerry/Bush debates shown on Cspan, all sweaty and redfaced and fidgety with his hairs all askew, blabbering nervously backstage to his cohorts about how great Bush was. KKKarl looked like a wreck. He has to be in an even bigger dither now. bwahahahahaha! Love it.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 03:54 AM
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17. not a genius
just completely shameless
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 06:16 AM
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18. Just a high stakes gambler.
He kept playing double or quits and now his luck and bravado have run out, and it's time to pay his debts and drop out of the game.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 06:19 AM
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19. he'll try one more time. he's preparing to smear Fitz, and he's done some
tests to see what might stick.

rove needs medical help... he's a fat fuck with a penchant for eating a pound of bacon at a time. he's probably got large polyps in his lower intestine.
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