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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 04:59 PM
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Family wedding gathering so liberal, RWinger host leaves room!
Folks, I have to report that my right wing brother in law is such an annoyance, even to his own large family, that at a family wedding in Madison, Wisconsin, the RWinger had to leave the room on a number of occasions during political discussions!

A triumph for progressives everywhere! This guy has been so misguided for so long, and his family has turned to such warm and progressive values, he just couldn't stand it! His step-neice was getting married to a former Tibetan monk in a combined ceremony with a Unitarian minister. Everything was peaceful, of course, but the table conversations drove the poor RWer out of the room on several occasions.

Maybe, we shall overcome by sheer moral force after all! It was a great experience.

Hello to Madison progressives. I love you and your wonderful city!!
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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 05:03 PM
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1. what a great story. sounds like it was a wonderful wedding. n/t
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 05:19 PM
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5. Sure was! A nice combo: Unitarian and Tibetan
I was in awe of the entire ceremony. I treasure my silk "khata", a long scarf that the couple "blessed" us by putting one on each of our necks after the ceremony.

The aura of peace, the Dalai Lama, and serenity pervaded the entire group. It inspired me!
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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 05:48 PM
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12. don't you just love the Dalai Lama? he just radiates peace and
holiness.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 05:54 PM
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13. His presence was very much felt
I'd like to think that it drives out hate and bitter feelings, because the whole group was so entranced. And not everyone was as liberal as me.

It was an unbelievable experience in so many ways for so much of today's world. I'm glad I was part of it.
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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 06:08 PM
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14. my rolfer (bodyworker) studied buddhism his whole life and about
5 years ago, i went to see him and his head was shaved. he laughed and said "well now i'm an ordained buddhist priest". he and his wife raised their 3 daughters as buddhists and when the oldest daughter got married, her dad performed the ceremony. how cool is that?

also when he works on me it's not just his knowledge of the body -- his spirituality comes out in the treatment.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 07:34 PM
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15. Isn't that great!
Shows that spirituality helps in so many ways.

Even tho the groom did not have enough English skills to speak a lot, his cousin came and had written a poem and sang a song of prayer and joy for the couple. It was so lovely and wonderful!

This experience has opened my eyes as well as my RW brother in law. I am changed forever and I hope he is too!
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 05:04 PM
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2. A real victory occurs when..
.. the conversation moves in such a way that he can stay in the room and participate.

Driving him out accomplishes nothing.

Sue
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 05:15 PM
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4. Unfortunately, the man just could not face it
This was a group of very kind and loving people, that included his own (grown)children and some of their (grown) children. Our remarks were not couched in harsh terms at all. I just think he knew he was outnumbered and chose to retreat rather than argue his RW points.
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 05:19 PM
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6. Difficult to do
Typical freeper thinking is "my way or the highway".

They get badly scared by all this liberal talk of compromise and interdependence.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 05:26 PM
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8. Yep. This man was clearly out of any moral "bullets"
I am now convinced that there is such a great force in collective moral values of peace, hope, and compassion. I have seen it at work in a single room!

My sincere hope is that he will "come into the light" and I mean that sincerely. He has so much to gain from it. Most of his large family is progressive now and they are so diverse (there are gays, converts to Orthodox Judaism, and DUers such as me!, plus little stepgranddaughers whose futures are hostage to this next Supreme Court!
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 05:13 PM
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3. I enjoyed this story.
Sounds like a beautiful wedding.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 05:25 PM
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7. Nah, he just needed one of those magic cigarettes.
That rwingers are known to favor when reality challenges them.

As soon as his clothes no longer smell like burned rope everything will be just like it was.



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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 05:28 PM
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10. I know what you mean, but I sure hope not.
If his own family can't turn him around, he's going to be one lonely guy (and he ain't gettin' any younger at 75).
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jrw14125 Donating Member (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 05:27 PM
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9. Why can't RW-ers engage in debate?
My family is the same way. 2 members cannot stomach any political discussion that is not dittohead in nature.

They will immediately get up and leave the room, or the house, or change the subject, every single time.

As you might expect, they get their news solely from Limbaugh and FOX.

Is this a sign of a) fact that they cannot debate you on the facts b/c either their facts are wrong, their opinions are not based on real facts, or they are unaware of teh facts, b) they are taught not to tolerate differing viewpoints, or c) both?
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 05:33 PM
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11. Well, with this guy is is A)
He is learning that more and more people are challenging his unsupported statements (recycled RNC talking points)and asking him for backup facts for his assertions. I did this myself, very successfully last summer. He just mumbled and walked away.

This example gives me hope that the RW is crumbling. I know that Madison, WI is a pretty liberal place, but it sure is stopping some RWers who happen to live there!
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