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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 03:59 PM
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Bush: "Knowing what I know today, I would have still made that decision."

Bush says he would still invade Iraq, even without the threat of WMD or links to Al Queda.

ON WHAT GROUNDS???

This statement is OUTRAGEOUS.




HUME: It was an evident decision after the election to try to be above the political fray. You came under a grueling attack on the use of pre-war intelligence, on the Iraq policy itself. And the response that — the administration was remarkably passive for a long time. Why was that?

BUSH: I just came off an election, and we're trying to elevate the debate and put politics behind and see if that couldn't happen. It didn't happen. But I've always felt like one of my jobs is to try to change the tone in Washington, D.C., to bring people together for the common good. To the best of my ability, it was just that dragging the presidency in the name-calling and the finger-pointing and the blaming — but no, you're right.

And we took a blasting and have begun recently to make the case in a more forceful way to the American people, first of all rejecting this notion that, you know, we lied about intelligence, reminding people that some of those people making those accusations looked at the same intelligence I looked at and voted for use of force in Iraq.

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HUME: Can you say today that if you had known then what you know now about the weapons, that you would have made the same decision.

BUSH: I said it today, and I said it at the last speech I gave.

And I've said it throughout the campaign to the American people. I said I made the right decision. Knowing what I know today, I would have still made that decision.

HUME: Now if you had this — if the weapons had been out of the equation, because the intelligence did not conclude that he had them, it was still the right call?

BUSH: Absolutely.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,178760,00.html



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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 04:04 PM
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1. Bush implicates himself as a war criminal by these remarks
no mention about the illegality of such an intent--to make war without the justification of imminent need for self-defense--in our corporate media, quite naturally. It's as if Hitler went on live radio broadcast simultaneously throughout the world and said, "After I invade Poland the legality of the situation will become a moot issue." and then nothing more was said about it.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 04:08 PM
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5. Exactly!
It's NOT HIS PREROGATIVE to invade a sovereign nation to overthrow their government. HE HAS NO RIGHT to do it.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 05:04 PM
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14. Isn't this the type of behavior that causes the United Nations to
impose sanctions against a country?
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 04:05 PM
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2. Then, no, it would not have been the right call.
That may still have been his call, but it would have been, at a minimum, unprecedented. And I'll be waiting to see what, if anything, Hillary has to say about this.
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 04:07 PM
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4. knowing what I know now
I would of still put those fire crackers in those little cute frogs mouths and blown them to kingdom come.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 04:06 PM
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3. he is trying to mitigate the damage about the deliberately faulty
intellegence and nullify the significance of the DSM. Is anyone going to really call him on rewriting history?
It was his only rationale for war, and now it doesn't matter at all? WTF?
BTW, nice to see you, Steph!
:HI:
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 04:09 PM
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7. hey betty!
:hi:
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 04:16 PM
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10. dare i say it? Happy Holidays Steph!
:hi:
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Rambis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 04:09 PM
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6. Would you have guarded the brazillian tons of explosives?
Edited on Thu Dec-15-05 04:10 PM by Rambis
that are being used to blow up our troops? You know the one that John Kerry told us about at every campaign stop.
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Gemini Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 04:11 PM
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8. When are we going to demand the
murdering chimp to be impeached?
How many more crimes does he have to commit before 'we the people' say enough?

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datadiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 04:15 PM
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9. That being said
If the Congress and Senate had known this, he wouldn't have been given the authority to wage his stupid war to begin with.
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 04:55 PM
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11. If we had known what we know today, you wouldn't have been elected.
I guess that's not as dramatic a statement as intended, since you were NEVER elected.
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 04:58 PM
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12. Why wouldn't he?
Look at all the money being made. And then there's all that oil.

"Knowing what I know today, I would have still made that decision."

Without a doubt.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 05:03 PM
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13. He has no RIGHT.
Why doesn't he understand that?
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 05:51 PM
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15. The Silverspoon Sociopath is a True Believer
He truely believes that illegally invading Iraq was totally justified and that he will be seen as bringing "Democracy" to the ME.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 06:31 PM
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16. I keep hoping the MSM would point out that Bush's speech
was Bush basically saying that he has the right to make war on whoever he wants - just because
he wants to ...

"on what grounds?"


That's exactly the right question... when is the whore media going to ask it?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 06:49 PM
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17. That's just how I figured
bush would do it. he's Stupid and that's not changing.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 07:03 PM
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18. Knowing what we know today...Just what is that?
We know that Saddam could not hurt a flea when we attacked and we also know that the USA was not in imminent peril. Those are facts and no one disputes those facts and yet Bush* says he would attack Iraq again even knowing these facts. I have a very real problem with that...
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 08:46 AM
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22. So do I.
He would do it again ON WHAT GROUNDS??? Who does he think he IS?
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 07:11 PM
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19. Impeach!
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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 11:45 PM
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20. Anybody else wonder why the WH hasn't been stormed after that statement?
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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 11:47 PM
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21. I lost it when I heard him say that
After all we know, this was a slap in the face.
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newportdadde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 09:00 AM
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23. What did you think he would say?
He is not capable of admitting a mistake or examining a past decision. He cannot do it, hasn't anyone ever had a boss like this? They will waste money and time etc but hell no will they admit they are wrong or change a decision no matter what.

He still acomplished two very important goals for his backers. The first is a 'secure' supply of middle east oil, the second is a fresh canvas for corporations to build on and make a fortune 'modernizing'.
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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 10:35 AM
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24. That's because he DID KNOW WHAT HE KNOWS TODAY!!!
And so did most of us here.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 11:19 AM
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25. true
But he had to lie about the evidence to get his war on - so how does he figure he could invade Iraq with no evidence whatsoever? What is he talking about?
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