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KennedyGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 10:59 AM
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Prediction: All you will hear about today will be Hillarys "Plantation"
Its already making the rounds of the right wing sites...by the end of the day it will be all over CNN, Faux, MSNBC. It will drown out the wiretap stories, any Iraq news. It will be Mary cheney all over again.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 11:00 AM
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1. Bingo! Hillary and Nagin. nt
Edited on Tue Jan-17-06 11:01 AM by babylonsister
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 11:03 AM
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2. I missed it ...
Can you point me in the general direction of what she said & when?
Thanks!

:hi:
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 11:04 AM
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4. Check the home page
www.democraticunderground.com
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 11:05 AM
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5. Here:

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/wire/sns...

Clinton Slams Bush, White House in Harlem


NEW YORK -- Sen. Hillary Clinton on Monday blasted the Bush administration as "one of the worst" in U.S. history and compared the Republican-controlled House of Representatives to a plantation where dissenting voices are squelched.

Speaking during a Martin Luther King Jr. Day event, Clinton also offered an apology to a group of Hurricane Katrina survivors "on behalf of a government that left you behind, that turned its back on you." Her remarks were met with thunderous applause by a mostly black audience at the Canaan Baptist Church of Christ in Harlem.


The House "has been run like a plantation, and you know what I'm talking about," said Clinton, D-N.Y. "It has been run in a way so that nobody with a contrary view has had a chance to present legislation, to make an argument, to be heard."

"We have a culture of corruption, we have cronyism, we have incompetence," she said. "I predict to you that this administration will go down in history as one of the worst that has ever governed our country."
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 11:03 AM
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3. Yup
Edited on Tue Jan-17-06 11:05 AM by wryter2000
I have a feeling it'll be good for us, though. I doubt there's an African American who will object to what she said -- quite the opposite. I'm hoping it keeps the subject in the news. Gore's speech was totally ignored.

On edit: it'll be a disaster if 1) she wimps out, 2) the DLC sabotages us by claiming she doesn't speak for them. That'd be pretty funny, though, when you think of it.
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 11:06 AM
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6. Well... you may be wrong in your assumption about us AA's.
The thing is, to some of us, that line was so patronizing as to skirt the edge of offensive...pandering at best, revealing at worst.

HOWEVER, it's not such a big deal that it should usurp Gore's amazing, wonderful, inspiring, incredible, brave speech.
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 11:28 AM
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7. Sensitive?
Can you explain why you feel this way? :shrug:
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 11:40 AM
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10. Mainly because we've come a long way since the "plantation" days.
There's something in Sen. Clinton's remark that seems to refer to the range of experience of modern African-Americans as being confined to the plantation. If this were 1906, okay, maybe. But when was the last time you met a modern African-American who knew what it's like to work under a boss on a plantation?

She could have said anything else and we also would have known what she meant. She didn't have to reach for a "guaranteed-to-get-them-riled-up-reference-to-slavery" thing.

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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 12:25 PM
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13. Okay...
I see your point. Thanks.
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 12:27 PM
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14. Thanks for listening. 'Preciate it. n/t
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 11:28 AM
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8. Thanks for your insight
I was basing what I said on the reported reaction from the crowd. I can certainly admit to being wrong when I don't know what I'm talking about. :hi:
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 11:42 AM
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11. Howdy!
:hi:

Thanks for listening! Just wanted to put it out there that for some of us, that remark wasn't the best.
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Snivi Yllom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 11:38 AM
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9. it will also push Gore's speech further down
I heard this on the news last night and knew right away it would be fodder for the media whores.
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Southsideirish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 11:43 AM
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12. I only hope to God she doesn't apologize like Democrats usually
do when they are caught (infrequently) speaking the truth.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 12:33 PM
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15. As a person who has said here..
... many times that I'd prefer just about anybody to Hillary in 2008, I think the "plantation" analogy is a good one. Those in power want everyone else to "know their place" and "do what they are told".

The reason you are going to hear the right wing handwringing about it is they are SCARED TO DEATH of that sort of REAL rhetoric, they are SCARED of anyone who will use the type of rhetoric they use routinely and turn it on them.

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