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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 12:11 PM
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To all who insist on repeating that our Senators don't have the guts
Edited on Sun Jan-22-06 12:14 PM by Maraya1969
or the strength to stage a filibuster or a walk out or do something very strong and forceful did you ever consider that YOU MIGHT BE PART OF THE FUCKING PROBLEM?

The chicken running around saying "The sky is falling, the sky is falling". The cartoon character dog who frets all the time and bathes in doom and gloom. DO THESE CHARACTERS SOUND REPUBLICAN? NO! And maybe that is just the reason why they have taken over the house. They believe that they are supposed to be in charge. We hate the despicable ways in which they attain those ends and we hate what they do with the power they gain but maybe we should learn something from their attitudes.

I have no doubt whatsoever that the Democratic Party should be in charge of this country. Our morals, our integrity and our ability to think with reason and logic is far superior than republican ideals and beliefs. It is a travesty that we have allowed this bastardization of power to occur in the first place.

We constantly say that we need to start at the bottom to change the politics of a country. Well how about we start at the level of the MEMBERS of our political party and not expect the elected officials to take on this attitude when the people who have elected them do not have it?

Just quit with the mamby pamby talk already. Speak of our representatives as if they had better do what we, their EMPLOYERS expect of them. They are supposed to "SERVE" the people who elected them remember?

If you had a company and all you did was complain that your employers were non effectual how well do you think your employees will do? Employees do well when they are expected to do well. Read about the Pygmalion Theory and then decide whether a change in your attitude is warranted or not.


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I am tired of coming here and reading dirges. We need leaders at DU also even if they are not elected or even known by their real names. I am calling on all members who consider themselves to have leadership in their veins to counter any self defeating attitudes here with ones of victory and strength. It is our moral obligation to do so and nothing less is acceptable.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 12:12 PM
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1. What you said
:D
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 12:15 PM
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2. Agree
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 12:16 PM
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3. Very well said. I also get so tired of the defeatists
at DU. "Oh, that will never work," or "They'll never do that," etc.
Stop being so negative and try to affect change instead of whining!
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 12:23 PM
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4. not all elected Dems see people as their "employer," ie Biden, Lieberman,
etc.

The dirges, tirades, criticisms whatever you want to call them are putting our elected officials on notice: they cannot serve two masters, corporate America and the American people.

If they do not serve us, they will be fired and replaced. The process has already begun with the seemingly entrenched Joe Lieberman. He should join the K Street Project since that is essentially what he is doing already.
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 01:23 PM
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10. I am referring to people making sweeping statements about our elected
officials being whims and not having the fortitude stage a walk out or filibuster or take other risks that may be necessary for victory.

Biden and Lieberman need to go if they don't realize who employs them. And they need to know that they are going to go.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 02:01 PM
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11. I think wimpiness is not the primary obstacle but split allegiance and
enough have that split allegiance to make those who fight for us a minority within the minority.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 12:24 PM
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5. When Dems stand up for New Deal or progressive values, we applaud them
but democracy does not mean blind trust, blind obedience, or blind cheerleading. That's how the GOP works.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 12:30 PM
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6. Why thank you, Sir.
I am under no obligation to cheer on anyone for merely occupying a safely gerrymandered seat which he bought by virtue of being born wealthy. No, I prefer the seat holder earn my praise, when they merit it, I give it and my financial support as lavishly as I can, irregardless of geographical boundaries.

If they fail to meet the progressive populist benchmarks I expect them attain, well, I seek a replacement for them who will.
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 01:19 PM
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9. I did not intend to mean blind cheer leading. I have written my Senator
and told him he has lost my vote if he doesn't get his act together.

We need to let them know what is acceptable and what is not. Just bitching about it to others is not productive. And accepting that things cannot or will not be different is not acceptable.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 09:15 AM
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12. bitching to others might inspire them to write or phone too
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 12:39 PM
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7. not to mention the fact that....
...the RNC's number one propaganda plan for this year is "Democrats are in disarray and have no plan."

Anyone who parrots that line or a variation thereof is diminishing the chances of Democratic gain in November.

Democrats are NOT in disarray. And the plan is the same as it has always been. Stand up for the people, against big business interests. The history of Democratic values is rich and strong, and the party's successes are validated by voters -- nearly three million more voted for Democrats than Republicans in the last two off-year elections.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 01:03 PM
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8. You mention a good plan--has anyone told the Democrats though?

I agree with your idea for a plan, and every economic, tax, or spending proposal should be measured against that.

The concern many of us have here, substantiated by a hell of a lot of evidence, is that for too many Democrats, that is NOT their sole or even primary guiding principle.

Democrats who support trade agreements that take jobs from our country AND screw people on the other end out of their rights to organize for better working conditions or regulate their own economy are NOT standing up for us.

Those who ignore the fact that insurance companies and big pharma are the largest part of the health care problem are NOT standing up for us.

Those that allow credit card companies to charge usury and then vote to cut off consumer bankruptcy are NOT standing up for us.

And most importantly, those who vote for wars that enrich a few while taking the tax dollars of most Americans and the lives of some are NOT standing up for us.


In some ways, the Democrats who vote for these things are worse than republicans because at least republicans say this is what they stand for. The Democrats who vote for this stuff essentially lied to their supporters when they called themselves Democrats. They essentially wore the goodwill left over from the New Deal, Civil Rights movement, and Great Society as a sheepskin to get a corporate candidate in where they otherwise couldn't.



the plan is the same as it has always been. Stand up for the people, against big business interests. The history of Democratic values is rich and strong, and the party's successes are validated by voters -- nearly three million more voted for Democrats than Republicans in the last two off-year elections.
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