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guruoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 11:31 PM
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US plans massive data sweep
Odd coincidence dept:
Every bit of this is addressed
in the al-Qaeda manual...
http://www.disastercenter.com/terror/index.htm
BushCo must think it's time for another 'reminder'.


http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0209/p01s02-uspo.html?s=hns
USA > Domestic Politics
from the February 09, 2006 edition

US plans massive data sweep
Little-known data-collection system could troll news, blogs, even e-mails. Will it go too far?
By Mark Clayton | Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor
The US government is developing a massive computer system that can collect huge amounts of data and, by linking far-flung information from blogs and e-mail to government records and intelligence reports, search for patterns of terrorist activity.

The system - parts of which are operational, parts of which are still under development - is already credited with helping to foil some plots. It is the federal government's latest attempt to use broad data-collection and powerful analysis in the fight against terrorism. But by delving deeply into the digital minutiae of American life, the program is also raising concerns that the government is intruding too deeply into citizens' privacy.

"We don't realize that, as we live our lives and make little choices, like buying groceries, buying on Amazon, Googling, we're leaving traces everywhere," says Lee Tien, a staff attorney with the Electronic Frontier Foundation. "We have an attitude that no one will connect all those dots. But these programs are about connecting those dots - analyzing and aggregating them - in a way that we haven't thought about. It's one of the underlying fundamental issues we have yet to come to grips with."

The core of this effort is a little-known system called Analysis, Dissemination, Visualization, Insight, and Semantic Enhancement (ADVISE). Only a few public documents mention it. ADVISE is a research and development program within the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), part of its three-year-old "Threat and Vulnerability, Testing and Assessment" portfolio. The TVTA received nearly $50 million in federal funding this year.

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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 11:32 PM
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1. Total Information Awareness is alive and very well
Edited on Thu Feb-09-06 11:37 PM by Gman
and about to be deployed.

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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 11:33 PM
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2. and look what "Attack of the Show" has made for them to sweep
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 11:34 PM
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3. They're incorrigable.
Edited on Thu Feb-09-06 11:35 PM by Armstead
This was soundly criticized and supposedly shut down a couple of years ago as the Total Information Awareness program. And yet, here we go again.

They're incorrigable.
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Ready4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 11:39 PM
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4. As this administration has already proved...
Any ability to connect the dots can be thwarted by an insistence on ONLY connecting certain dots at the exclusion of all else.

We had all the dots we needed to see 9/11 coming. Some of us had connected those dots. But this administration WAS NOT INTERESTED.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 11:42 PM
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5. This sounds as plausible as missile defense
Edited on Thu Feb-09-06 11:43 PM by The_Casual_Observer

And the fusion-pumped laser gun.


I'm afraid we are being subjected to a big psyops fraud here.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 11:49 PM
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6. Well if it works like FEMA
We'll have nothing to worry about.
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LiberalPartisan Donating Member (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-09-06 11:53 PM
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7. My thoughts exactly
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guruoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 12:02 AM
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8. '60s Free Speech leader got caught in FBI web
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 02:30 AM
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9. I hate to tell you this

but Fema failed because it was SUPPOSED to...

And plane mounted laser cannons are a reality (and have been for some 3 years...), though not "fusion pumped".

The government can be very effective in some programs given money and purpose.

TIA is not just "Thanks in Advance" anymore.

Storing everything on the web, and all of the emails and blogs and such, just isn't that technical a challenge... indexing it along
with IRS, state and county records, bank records, etc, etc, isn't that hard either.

I use to manage a 3PB database while working for the US gov... and that was on a much smaller budget than these people have.
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