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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 03:53 PM
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Prediction: Cheney WILL resign:
From my blog, blog.myspace.com/dansweeney:

The only question now is when. National Journal has reported that Lewis "Scooter" Libby has testified that Cheney told him to leak classified information, including a highly classified National Intelligence Estimate. He hasn't said yet whether Cheney gave him the go-ahead to out Valerie Plame, but that, too shall come to pass. (see: http://nationaljournal.com/about/njweekly/stories/2006/0209nj1.htm..)

Once the dust settles, Cheney will have to go. And the dust will most certainly settle before 2008, when these rats will be leaving office anyway. If things can be hurried along, Cheney may resign within six months. But I doubt the likelihood of that outcome. Libby's lawyers will stall for time, waiting until after the 2006 election. At that point, Cheney will resign for "health reasons."

The question then becomes, who will replace him, and what good will it do? Ordinarily, one would think that the Bush branch of the GOP (as opposed to the McCain folks and other would-be presidential contenders for '08) would install its pick for a Bush successor. But that could be a bad idea -- the slime of the VP's office may rub off on the new No. 2, miring him or her in a morass of inescapable, unelectable greed and stupidity. If the Bush folks anticipate this, they will bring in one of their sometime allies but longterm rivals, like Bill Frist or John McCain, to take the VP slot in what they will term a "healing, reach-across-the-aisle" sort of move. But if the Bush boys think that the new VP can escape the shadows of the former, they'll install their likely successor.

But who? The GOP in '08 doesn't look as if it will bend toward the neocon side. The likely candidates -- Bill Frist, John McCain, Rudy Giuliani and Sam Brownback -- have all had their problems with this administration. Given past precedent, and also given the few friends it now has in Congress, I expect the Bush White House to promote from within. Maybe Condoleeza Rice. That'll set the stage for her to run in '08. But, of course, she'll get hammered in the GOP primary. The party is full of racists and misogynists, and running a black woman is not the smartest thing they could do. But for Bush and his cronies, Rice may be the only option. The Taint Is Too Big.

Besides, naming Rice as VP serves another function. It gets Cheney out of the press. Sure, the Vice President of the United States just resigned for bullshit health reasons. Sure, he REALLY resigned for a sheer landslide of law-breaking committed with the sort of fuck-you-I-don't-give-a-damn-what-anyone-thinks mentality that we haven't seen in a politician since Caligula. But all of that will leave the papers as journalists across CNN, Fox News and all the major newspapers all scream: IS THE COUNTRY READY FOR A BLACK FEMALE VICE PRESIDENT??!!!!!?!?!

While talk over the new VP reaches a fever pitch, Dick will reach some agreement with the prosecutor and retire to a life of duck hunting, ranching, and bathing in the blood of nubile virgins.

Final Prediction: Cheney resigns in Dec. '06, after the election, but before the newly elected come to power. Filled with their own hubris, and also wanting to cover Cheney's ass, Bush Co. will install Rice as the new VP.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 03:55 PM
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1. He Will Have Heart Related Problems
My guess.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 03:56 PM
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4. what heart?
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 03:57 PM
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5. Heart? He has a heart? I heard there was an ongoing investigation....
I think he has a hollow chest cavity where he stores poison and chemical weapons.
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 03:58 PM
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7. Uh-uh. He keeps his winged, fanged demon
in that chest cavity.
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 04:38 PM
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24. Cheney's heart problem?????
someone finally catches on and pounds a wooden stake through it.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 05:05 PM
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30. The Black Heart will go into the "Hall Of Shame"
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 03:56 PM
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2. Yep, the next time he goes to the hospital
he will resign for his health and to spend more time with his loving family. The only question is what sort of doctrinaire wingnut they'll want to pick versus the practical choice of an heir apparent like McCain or that loon from Virginia. Even if by some miracle Stupid gets impeached, they'll want to be in a position to keep power after 2008.

I sincerely doubt Rice will get the slot, but I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Jebbie get it.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 03:56 PM
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3. He won't go
Who's going to make him? Congress?
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 03:58 PM
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6. Doesn't matter. I believe Fitzgerald will indict him.
Although Joe Wilson and the rest of us would sure love to see him frog-marched out of the White House in handcuffs.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 04:00 PM
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10. It won't matter whether he resigns or not
Fitz will persue his job as a professional. He's the kind of person that really pisses off the cheney's of the world.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 04:04 PM
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11. all that integrity and so much material ....
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 03:59 PM
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8. To spend quality time with his family
I do not view kindasleazy as a black female, I see her as a scum of the earth, lying, incompetent, republican operative. I think 5-deferments dick will resign as well but nothing about that or his successor will be a positive for the most vile administration in the history of the country. Hell, by December 06 bush may resign.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 04:00 PM
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9. "I will not resign if indicted, I will not resign if indicted!!"
Edited on Fri Feb-10-06 04:01 PM by tritsofme
Oops, one of those flashbacks again.
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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 04:06 PM
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12. Your opinion, not mine
I could never see Cheney doing anything so humiliating. Ever! He's not that patriotic. He is a the scumhead of all scumheads. He will remain in office, and if indicted, will stall any precedings until 2009, then be conveniently pardoned for any crimes by Bush, as he is leaving office. End of story. That's how the republicans operate. Look at Iran-Contra. The Bush family is a crooked as it gets. They all feel they are above the law. And as long as they have the power of pardon, they will use it to free any of their cohorts from prosecution. Wake up!
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 04:16 PM
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13. Patriotism doesn't have anything to do with it...
Cheney will resign because he has to, not because he wants to. If Bush thinks Cheney will drag him down, he'll cut him loose.

Also, thanks, but I'm already wide awake.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 04:16 PM
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14. I agree. I look to see Ken Lay pardoned as well. These are
low-life swine - nothing is beneath them...
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 04:22 PM
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16. I wouldn't put blanket pardons past them, either...
but two years in politics is an eternity, and 2006-2008 will be difficult years for the VP. I can see Bush possibly pardoning Cheney, but that doesn't prevent Bush from demanding a resignation as well, to cover his own ass.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 04:23 PM
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17. treason cannot be pardoned, I thought.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 04:24 PM
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19. Not sure. But it doesn't matter...
Edited on Fri Feb-10-06 04:26 PM by SteppingRazor
No one's going to charge Cheney with treason, regardless of his crimes. He'll be charged for lesser but similar crimes. The federal statute against outing a CIA agent for example.

On edit: The president can grant pardons or reprieves for any crimes against the United States, except in cases of impeachment. (per the Constitution)
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 04:31 PM
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21. Correct, I should have recalled that. Thanks.
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 04:18 PM
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15. Plausible
Both Cheney's resignation "For health reasons" and Rice as a replacement. In fact, this may have been what they had in mind when Rice was nominated for SoS. The republicans are going to looking at image, not competence.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 04:23 PM
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18. Cheney is the terrifying love child of Leonid Brezhnev & the Michelin Man.
I love the comments in this thread about his not having a heart to begin with -- just perfect and totally right-on.

He needs a flotilla of psychiatrists more than a heart surgeon.

I'd prefer that he resign this afternoon; absent that, I will take December 06 or any other time. He's been very bad for our country.

Bush might look to "fresh faces" to stimulate so-called moderate GOP voters to remain with the party: Rob Portman of Ohio, for example. But I think it's a tailor-made arrangement for Kindasleazy. She's just a fashion-show stride away from that runway.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 04:25 PM
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20. After the 2006 election unless he is more of a liability--then sooner
Rove will dump him
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 04:31 PM
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22. And?? What Good Will This Do??
I suppose it would THEN be in our BEST interests to MOVE-ON to IMPEACH The EEEEIIIIdiot BRAT!!

BIG TIME!!
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 04:34 PM
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23. Hey, just making a prediction!
Not saying what good it would do. Just calling it like I see it. But I do agree with you. Cheney resigning would be a sign of weakness, and if we take Congress in '06 (unlikely, but I hope and I pray), impeachment proceedings should begin soon after.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 04:44 PM
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26. I'm In For The MARCH!!
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 04:39 PM
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25. Frist wouldn't be one of the picks for VP
since he has his own scandal looming. I think you are right on Rice, though.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 05:32 PM
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36. Contradicta would be problematic. If they're really shrewd, they'll
cook something up about cheney's heart problems - oh, mercy me! He's gotta resign for health reasons! Poor dick! SUCH a high-pressure job - not good for the ol' ticker, heh-heh-heh. And if they're REALLY shrewd, they'll do it BEFORE the November elections so THEY get this nice, fresh bump of bush doing something decisive and unprecedented and record-breaking - the first female VP - the first AFRICAN-AMERICAN FEMALE VP at that. Won't that be a big-ass bone to throw at the people who dissed him at Coretta Scott King's funeral? Won't that make a whole lotta people forget about New Orleans, and the have-nots of this country (and the world) whose faces are mostly of color? Believe me, enough people will forget all about those things if darling Contradicta gets the nod. It would position her well to run in '08, because she already has the "credibility" and positioning. Doesn't matter that she's a HUGE waste of time, a complete idiot, and her specialty itself is completely obsolete. It's the old "at least she looks good on camera" -- and YOU BETTER BELIEVE that if it is even remotely possible that she is installed in '08, guess who'll REALLY still be "president"? What a deviously brilliant way to hold onto the Oval Office - by installing your puppet-girlfriend-nanny in there who'll ALWAYS take your call.

I wouldn't put it past them. And their spin machinery would use that as proof-positive that the GOP and bush in particular just LUV-LUV-LUV black people, contrary to what Kanye West and others have so clearly seen and stated. It'd be worth a WHOLE LOTTA opinion points in the polls, I GUARANTEE you.

I'd hope they wouldn't do this. It would be a LOT more complicated to fight. For the people who stayed asleep despite the truths we told about bush, don't you doubt for an instant that they'd remain asleep about her. CONDI!!! Yeah! Way to GO, girlfriend! Almost as good as Oprah!!! And black, to boot!!! SEE? Republicans ARE the party of inclusion! SEE? Republicans DO benefit women and non-whites! SEE? Here's our poster girl! How much more proof do you need?
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Mr Rabble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 05:49 PM
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40. I think you hit this one on the head.
Im feeling sick now.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 06:01 PM
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43. Plus, as I said in my OP...
All this hype about new VP Rice would get the fact that Cheney just resigned out of the headlines.
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rniel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 04:50 PM
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27. My prediction for Bush's new VP
Joe Lieberman
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 04:55 PM
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28. I was surprised they kept him on the '04 ticket !
Health issues and all, he would not have fallen from grace O8)

He still could use that as an excuse, and the new VP appointee will be someone they think could kick our donkey's ass in '08.

McCain? Huckabee? Allen?
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fknobbit Donating Member (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 04:57 PM
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29. I will believe Cheney gone
only after his secret hidden coffin is located and a wooden stake driven through his heart.
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EXDIA53 Donating Member (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 05:14 PM
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31. If Rice is tapped...
and really runs in '08 (I don't think she will), the Democratic nominee, whoever it is, is going to have to be a mirace worker to win.
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fknobbit Donating Member (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 05:21 PM
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32. I prey she runs,
It will be a Dem landslide. Redneck fundies will stay home.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 05:30 PM
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35. What makes you think Rice would win in a landslide?
Also, what makes you think she would make it out of the primaries?
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fknobbit Donating Member (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 05:36 PM
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38. If you are alluding to my post I suggest you re-read same.
I never Implied she had a chance.:woohoo:
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 05:59 PM
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41. Um.. my post wasn't replying to your post...
It was replying to the post you replied to.
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fknobbit Donating Member (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 07:20 PM
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46. Since it was under mine
Edited on Fri Feb-10-06 07:47 PM by fknobbit
And I had made the landslide statement...I misunderstood. Be well and prosper. I just wanted to make sure no one thinks I was pimping for condelingus
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 05:22 PM
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33. I have long maintained that Cheney would resign and * would appoint
a Repub that would be likely to win in 2008. Who that would be, I don't know. Not Rice--as someone else said, there are lots of racists and misogynists in the R party, and they'd never go for it. Not Jeb either. Enough Repubs are sub- and unconsciously unhappy with Dubya, so they would be less likely to vote for another *. However, I do think that any other Repub, as long as he is presentable, can speak, and isn't visibly a drunk or an idiot, would do fine. The Pubs out there are desperately looking for a Pub to vote for that has no taint of *. Don't worry, the Pub party will find him for them. They desperately want to keep winning elections, because they haven't quite robbed us totally and destroyed the country utterly. Almost, but not quite.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 05:28 PM
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34. I've long predicted this, too.
Edited on Fri Feb-10-06 05:28 PM by Sparkly
Not sure it'll be Rice who replaces him, though...
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 05:33 PM
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37. What kind of approval ratings does Condi have?
I wouldn't put it past them to do this--but it would have to pass muster with Rove.
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NJ Democrats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 05:37 PM
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39. I agree that Cheney will resign after the elections
with impeachemnt looming. However, Bush will nomitnate Allen for VP. Allen will be confrifed, but in doing so, he gives Dems the Senate, as Kaine nominates a Dem for the Senate Seat! (I think it will be a 50-49-1 Senate after the elections, before Allen becomes VP.)
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Benfea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 06:01 PM
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42. People have been predicting retirement over "health reasons" forever. -NT
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Dunvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 06:07 PM
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44. One thing is for sure, if they "resign" Dick, they'll blame it on Dems
Edited on Fri Feb-10-06 06:07 PM by Dunvegan
Say we "tortured" the poor man with investigations, forced him to "rendition" himself home to save his very life.

Patooie.
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Geoff R. Casavant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 06:28 PM
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45. Bush can't simply "install" Rice as VP
Amendment 25 -- Bush nominates, but then both houses of Congress must approve by majority vote.

So I think if Cheney is going to resign it will be before the 06 elections, otherwise there won't be enough time to get the nomination rammed through Congress before the new Dem majority takes over at least one house.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 07:37 PM
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47. Any chance of Cheney being indicted by Fitz?
Even if Cheney did resign, which I highly doubt, I don't think that Fitz would bypass charging him if the evidence is solid. At that point I don't think Cheney would resign because it would be obvious that it wouldn't be for health reasons. He is an arrogant, stuborn asshole and would go on the offensive.
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yellowdogmi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 07:38 PM
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48. Except he said yesterday...
No resignations accepted during war. Here is the link. If he had any shred of decency he would but that is asking for too much.



http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2449388
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 07:46 PM
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49. What for? He gets $202,000 per year for doing NOTHING........
Hell I'd bet on a daily basis hardly anyone in Washington even knows where Cheney is. By hanging around till the end he'll pick up another $606,000 for fucking off and making sure Halliburton keeps raping the US taxpayers with fat-ass no bid contracts.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 07:51 PM
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50. I'll believe it when I see it
Cheney will never admit to doing anything wrong. Resigning would be admitting wrong doing and I don't believe he has any shred of guilt in his behavior. Made up info to go to Iraq? Big deal. Leak a CIA agent's identity? Why should he care?

He is a totally fuck-you-I don't-give'a damn-what anyone-thinks kind of guy.

He has gotten away with this shit for years and years.

Mz Pip
:dem:
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-10-06 08:14 PM
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51. You have to be kidding...
The MSM will gloss over the story and NOTHING will happen....yawn...another Bush scandal...gee....hmmm...OK...wow! A pretty blonde girl is kidnapped in Florida! Parents are on the phone...quick! Just who is this girl? Does she have a brother in Iraq? Is her mother an alcoholic?

That Cheney story will have to wait until later....we have a REAL story now!
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