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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 12:24 PM
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DCCC wants our opinion - I say we GIVE IT TO THEM!
Edited on Sat Feb-11-06 12:26 PM by ih8thegop
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Kierkegaard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 12:34 PM
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1. Done.
For all the good it did, I ripped them a new one.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 02:28 PM
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11. so did I
under things I worry about I added: nuclear war with Iran and under
Meddicare I added: windfall for drug cos. while US suffers

I also said that they are not functioning effectively as an Opposition Party.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 12:35 PM
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2. Oh, I did.
Thanks!
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 12:37 PM
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3. They got an earful from me.
I work hard for my county Democratic organization. I am on the executive committee, and I am a precinct committeeman. I have given money to the DCCC in the past. They are failing people like me.

They should be supporting Cegelis, who nearly won last time. They are not offering any support or help to our candidate in the 16th district. He has not raised enough money to merit their attention. That is crappy. He is a good progressive, and he could probably make a better showing with their support.

I thought the DCCC was supposed to be grass roots. They would not know a grass root if it bit them in the ass.
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badgerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 12:54 PM
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4. Me too...
I didn't use any profanity, but I did leave tail feathers smoking...
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Karmageddon Donating Member (596 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 01:12 PM
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5. Done. Thank you.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 01:16 PM
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6. ohhh-- they shouldn`t have asked me.....
i`m sure they really loved what i said...
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 01:38 PM
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7. Thanks for posting this
I sure hope someone actually reads the comments.
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 02:08 PM
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8. thanks
I don't think they will care too much for the "Truthiness" of my response.. since it is the absolute truth, can they handle it?
:shrug:
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Catamount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 02:20 PM
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9. Done, with a piece of my mind! Thanks
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lady lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 02:24 PM
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10. Oh boy, be careful what you ask for
because they just got a major earful from me. Thanks for posting this.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 02:33 PM
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12. Opinion submitted
Glad to give my opinion.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 03:01 PM
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13. Thanks for posting this....
My responses were smokin'.....They truly need to find their collective spines and realize our ANGER. Hell....here we all are, just pissed as hell and NO ONE in a leadership role has focused on that anger and used it to lead.

We are a party without leadership....all the while our country sinks into 1984 authoritarian fascism...

shit.
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Iowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 09:25 PM
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34. Yep, I said pretty much the same thing...
And then I read your post and those of others here. Great minds think alike!
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 03:06 PM
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14. Yeah, got the e-mail too. Like they really care what we think.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 03:06 PM
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15. They don't give a rat's ass about our opinion...
I have been writing to the DCCC, the DNC and anyone else I thought could/would/should get this Party moving again, and I never hear back... I never see progress. They are just trying to placate us. Whenever the grumbles from the peanut gallery gets laoud enough, one or all of the entities that should be listening or at least caring what we think asks for our opinion.

I WANT TO SEE REAL RESULTS! They know the problems, they just want to know how much we know.

TC
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 03:23 PM
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18. They're about to "placate" themselves out of a job
I predict a number of them will be replaced with harder working, more committed Dems in 2006.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 07:42 PM
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30. That is essentially what I wrote. It did feel good to sound off, but I
doubt that any of us will hear a damned thing in response.
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iconocrastic Donating Member (627 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 11:11 PM
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40. They are pretending to listen to us. n/t
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ldf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 02:22 PM
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81. exactly
now they can say they solicited our opinions and truly care what we think.

these survey responses probably aren't even read, or if they are, reduced to two stacks, one of stuff they want to hear, and one of the truth, which they will promptly ignore.

i did, however, go through the exercise in futility. IF they read my reply, they do know that we are pissed.
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dorktv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 05:51 PM
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84. Then talk to me.
The Nov. Vic. listserv is trying to change things and we DO listen.
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dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 03:15 PM
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16. Thank you!
I just wrote them a book! Hope they listen to some of it!
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 03:21 PM
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17. I told them to get off their asses and get to work
I'm tired of hearing excuses, get busy or get replaced. I'm working harder to get Dems elected than any of them are.
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Gronk Groks Donating Member (582 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 03:56 PM
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19. Told them to back Dean's line that this administration is more corrupt...
...than Nixon's. Also to be more confrontational, nice guys finish last...
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 04:00 PM
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20. Reminder: The DCCC is on our side.
Edited on Sat Feb-11-06 04:02 PM by AtomicKitten
Some of you treat them like they are freepers.

It would behoove people to draw a line in the sand between the GOP and us, not between various factions WITHIN the party.

If they're asking for input, they give a shit.

On edit: Flame away. Somebody had to say it.

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RazzleDazzle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 04:19 PM
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57. Uh, no, that would be a myth you got there
They're on their side. Their main and only goal is to get re-elected or get "the right people" elected. They could care less what you think. Really.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 07:14 PM
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59. Your gross misrepresentations and exaggerations are deceptive.
And to what end?

Why, for once, don't you direct your wrath where it belongs ... at the Republicans?
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RazzleDazzle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 04:02 PM
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61. Because the BIGGER problem is that we don't have an
opposition party. Getting one is our only hope in the short term.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 04:20 PM
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21. Did it.
Here was my comment at the end:

WHY do you not just come straight out and say "BUSH LIED?" PLEASE!!!! What are you afraid of? That they'll say mean things about you?

Honestly, if you can't stand up to bush, frist, hastert, cheney, delay, and the rest of these criminal schmucks, HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY CONVINCE VOTERS THAT YOU'LL STAND UP TO OSAMA BIN LADEN???

If you're too busy trying to "work with the president," HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY CONVINCE VOTERS THAT WE STAND FOR SOMETHING ELSE - SOMETHING BETTER?

How do you suppose voters have gotten the impression that the Democrats don't stand for anything, or that there's really no difference between the two parties ("ehhh, they're all the same", "pox on both their houses")?

I want MY Democrats NOT to agree with, or try to help, or try to appease, or try to voice their "concern" about what's going on. "Concern" is for wussies. I want to see some fire and brimstone.

Why should I fight so hard for you if you guys won't fight as hard for me?

And PLEASE stop taking your cues from the Democratic Leadership Council!!! If you want appeasement, go google Neville Chamberlain. But DON'T run our party like that!!!

AND STOP BEING SO NICE AND POLITE AND COOPERATIVE!!!

STOP IT NOW!!!!!!!
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 04:33 PM
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22. Cripes.
They list 8 Dems as possible party leaders and one is James Carville?
Not Kerry?
Not Conyers?
What a joke. How out of touch are these people?

10: Which Democrats do you view as Party leaders? Mark all that apply:

Gov. Howard Dean
Sen. Harry Reid
Rep. Nancy Pelosi
Sen. Barack Obama
Former Vice President Al Gore
Rep. Rahm Emanuel
Sen. Hillary Clinton
James Carville
Other:
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 04:35 PM
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23. Yeah. And no Barbara Boxer, either.
I put both those names down on my own add-on list - Boxer AND Conyers. And Wesley Clark. And Russ Feingold. Forgot Murtha, unfortunately, but I would have included him, too. NONE of these others really gets me there. And as for Obama - he doesn't have enough of a track record yet, in my opinion. So far, he's so-so.
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spuddonna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 05:42 PM
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26. I almost forgot him too (Murtha)! Thanks for the reminder! :) n/t
Edited on Sat Feb-11-06 05:45 PM by spuddonna
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 08:21 PM
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31. I marked Dean and Gore and added
Wes Clark, John Conyers, Russ Feingold, Maxine Waters and BARBARA BOXER.
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howmad1 Donating Member (959 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 06:44 PM
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29. Geez, imagine if they gave Gen. Wesely Clark a shot at leadership.
He'd probably rip em a new one, as well. But remember, the present "leadership' come from from the "go along to get along" school of politics. All the while, the rethugs are ripping their faces off. How friggin frustrating this excuse for an opposition party is.
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 09:20 PM
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33. AND WHERE WAS WES CLARK?! OR MURTHA? DEMS NEED MILITARY CRED! nt
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 05:10 PM
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24. Here's what I posted in the comments box
Please Democrats Grow A Spine!!!!! Vote for your constituents not for your Big Money Corporate contributers. Get some True Progressive Democrats to oppose the "Corporate" DLC Democrats in the Primaries. I would rather vote for an independent candidate or a progressive Democratic candidate than a DLC candidate. :hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo: :patriot:
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spuddonna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 05:41 PM
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25. Ok, here are some of my answers, rambling comments...
1.What should be the most important priority for Democrats in Congress right now?
Making sure the Privatization of Social Security that was slipped into the latest budget is removed; supporting John Conyers censure of President Bush and Vice-President Cheney; getting us out of Iraq; keeping us out of Iran

2: I am most concerned about:
Our government becoming a fascist state. The executive branch is actively violating Constitutional laws with impunity.

3: Millions of Americans are struggling to understand the new Republican Medicare bill. What is your biggest concern about this bill?
People are going to emergency rooms because they can't get their medicines or are being deprived their medicines outright.

5: The mission of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee is to:
Find and aid local Democrats - real Democrats, not DINOS - to build our party's future! These House Dems become tomorrows Senate leaders!

9: What issues do you want to hear from Democrats about?
All of the above. (The above were Heathcare, War In Iraq, Education, Environment)
I also want to also hear how they are defending our Constitution from Bush and his illegal wiretaps against citizens!

10: Which Democrats do you view as Party leaders? Mark all that apply:
I checked Dean, Al Gore, and wrote in Barbara Boxer, John Conyers, Henry Waxman, Kerry, Kennedy, John Murtha, Russ Feingold

My comments:
After watching John Kerry and Ted Kennedy stand up for American womens’ rights to reproductive choice via the filibuster of Samuel Alito's nomination, and seeing how many Democrats would not stand with them, I have been sickened and dismayed... For twenty years I have given to state/local/federal candidates who had promised to fight for women's rights. Yet, when that time came, our Democratic Senators couldn't even muster the votes to filibuster this nominee. I watched as my Senator, Maria Cantwell, voted against the option to filibuster. I tell you, I cried that day, as I watched Kerry and Kennedy urging their colleagues to stand behind them, as the DINOs like Maria walked away…

The American public is OUTRAGED that the NSA wiretapping is going on, but what do I hear from Sen. Evan Bayh today? "Evan Bayh, who plans to visit Iowa today, on Friday discouraged fellow Democrats from making the Bush administration's use of wiretapping a campaign issue." This is INSANITY! This would have been like Democrats during the Nixon years saying, "Ooh, this Watergate issue is too dangerous to play with as a campaign issue!" And then I hear Senator "Joementum" Lieberman got Hannity's endorsement yesterday. Wow... Is this what our party has come to?

Our party needs to WAKE UP. We are NOT going to win back the Congress and White House as "Republican-Lite". People are looking for an alternative to the Republican party, not just a 'watered down' version. We need to back Gov. Dean's five ideas of job creation, health care, education funding, etc. but we also need to seriously address the gigantic criminality and cronyism of the Bush administration. Our 4th amendment rights are being trampled, and our own Senators are afraid this will be a 'bad campaign issue'?! We are involved in a war in Iraq that is based on lies. I cannot believe that there are Democratic Senators and House members who still defend their votes on the Iraq War Resolution saying that even now, when the truth has been revealed, that they still think “going into Iraq was the right thing to do.”

On a positive note, I am extremely excited to see so many veterans joining the Fighting Dems ranks. The speeches I have heard from them, such as Paul Hackett, are so encouraging, hopeful and speak truth to power, I hope that we focus on these candidates and support them. I have financially, and will continue to do so in the future. I look at real Democrats in my local primaries, like Mark Wilson, and support them. I hear of great candidates in Conn. like Ned Lamont, and I will give him my hard earned cash.

We need a new generation of Democrats – not Republican-Lite DINOs – to step forward at this critical moment to help rebuild our country. It is not enough that the candidate have a (D) after their name – it must mean something to the people of America.

Thank you for your time and for listening to my comments.

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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 06:13 PM
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27. The purpose of the DCCC is:
To keep meaningful candidates from opposing unsatisfactory Democratic incumbents.

A sample,
-Hoot
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banana republican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 06:18 PM
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28. told them to post their questions on DU
I doubt that they will though....
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 08:32 PM
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32. They aren't going to like my answers. EVOTING is my main issue and
I told them so too. Along with other things they aren't going to like to hear. I told them I'm sick and tired of their catering to the "moderate vote" and it was time they catered to the PROGRESSIVES of the party...the people who actually do all their work for them, raise funds for them, get out the votes for them and contribute a hell of of lot of money to them. I told them I was tired of them not standing up to the repukes and they need to fight back. I also told them I was SICK TO DEATH of the DLC members undermining our causes....like the illegal spying issue. My main concerns are the fascists who have taken over the government and the corporate owned media.
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Crazy Guggenheim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 09:37 PM
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35. Done. I told them I wasn't going to vote at all if they didn't get a
backbone. Also if they didn't stand up behind Howard Dean.

:popcorn: :woohoo: :applause:
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Misskittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 10:08 PM
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36. Already done. Got one by e-mail. n/t
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distantearlywarning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 10:24 PM
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37. Thanks for posting this.
I've been very frustrated about this issue lately, with nobody to yell at about it until now. I gave them an earful too. Told them I was mad about the Alito thing, and that I wasn't going to give them any more money until they stopped being such pansy-asses.
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 10:51 PM
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38. Any other takers? (nt)
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 11:11 PM
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39. Late to the party, but done, and thanks! nt
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 09:55 AM
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51. But not TOO late (nt)
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 12:23 AM
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41. Done.
I checked off "Other" and entered "All the above" to the questions.

My comments were:

Start calling George Bush the LIAR that he is. He didn't misrepresent anything. He LIED.
Stop trying to work with the president. He thinks you're irrelevant.
Stand up to your fellow congressional Republicans. They think you're wimps because you act like wimps.
Start emulating Howard Dean and Wes Clark in both attitude and dialog. Stop emulating the DLC.
Know and acknowledge that the American people are outraged about wiretaps, creeping fascism and corporatism, the crisis in health care, the economy, jobs, the deficit, rigged voting machines, the loss of environmental protections and on and on and on.
Start listening to the people who put you where you are and not to the people who grease your palms and line your pockets.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 02:17 PM
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54. IMHO, yours is one of the best! ("All the above"). Thank you.
"Start calling George Bush the LIAR that he is."
"He didn't misrepresent anything. He LIED."


I add:
Take a closer look at the PNAC and at who exactly conspired to rip-off the American people of their hard-earned tax money, and then, ask yourself "WHY?".

Suggested answer: anyone heard about "Mein Kampf" by Adolf Hitler? (The ripping off, the "unilateral methods," the TORTURES, the countless crimes against HUMANITY, the un-challenged rise of a religion-driven-dictatorship, and the complete disasters in terms of tens of millions of innocent lives it took to defeat and to destroy that corrupted regime; please "wake-up" before it's too late, like the Germans "woke up" when their entire country was in ruin.) READ this:
http://www.newamericancentury.org/statementofprinciples.htm

PLEASE: WAKE UP BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE! (It is already late enough, it's scary...):


These criminals (see who they are and "connect the dots") are actually repeating similar crimes over, and over, as they "advance" slowly but surely, since a few years already: please do everything you can to stop them, to indict them, and to imprison them for all the crimes against democracy, and against the human race they have committed so far (re.: they "wished" for a "New Pearl Harbor" and, surprisingly, got it like if "it" had been scheduled almost "perfectly" for them to take "advantage" of... Ring any "bells?").

Good night and good luck. (But please: FIGHT!)
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 01:38 AM
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42. My reply:
The DCCC has stepped over the line by active manipulation of local Democratic Primary races.
The DCCC has "inserted" beltway approved candidates into local primaries and backed them with money and organization that has squelched the campaigns of local progressives spawned by the grassroots.
I consider this a grevious offense and a threat to our Democracy.
The DCCC has NO BUSINESS intefering in Primary Democratic Races.
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Gelliebeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 05:24 AM
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43. I gave them a little piece of my mind
and it felt damn good. Bet they won't let us know at the end of the month if the results don't turn out like planned. ;)
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DemonGoddess Donating Member (364 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 07:55 AM
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44. done
I had to retype a fair few times, but finally managed to come up with something coherent after I calmed myself down a bit.
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andlor Donating Member (300 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 08:03 AM
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45. done
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purji Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 08:15 AM
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46. Done n/t
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 08:19 AM
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47. done
In comments:
told'em when they show some spine - I'll show them some money

also said that there are no leaders in the Democratic party - just spineless apologists...and that the NUMBER ONE Priority should be spine implants

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chemp Donating Member (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 08:24 AM
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48. my reply
A bit more long winded than others it seems.

President Bush and the Republicans are getting more brazen every day as the Democratic Party refuses to organize and fight them. For over five years there has been a steady stream of miss deeds reported (in the foreign press, the local press has been paid for) with only minor uproar. as the miss deads get worse, the uproar is smaller and fizzles out more quickly.
Reports have now come out that they have been steadily breaking the law. Downing Street Memo shows how they fabricated the WMD claim leading up to a WAR! They are spying on Americans without warrant. Why no warrant? Could it be because they couldn't get a warrant to spy on YOU?
The American people are getting more and more outraged. We are looking to the Democrats to rise up but only a few do, and the mainstream media drowns them out too quickly.
What we need is one voice.
one voice that repeats a small message.
Perhaps a list of ten goals to accomplish. Just don't call it a "Contract". And fullfill these goals. Work with the outrage. Work with the veterans running for office as democrats. Fight the swiftboating of anyone who stands up for the truth.
And fight to Impeach the bastards. Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, All of 'em. they were all complicent. They all knew, they all lied.
YOU are our elected representatives.
You speak for us.
We can't do it ourselves.
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pearl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 08:54 AM
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49. I told them to Fire all the Fecless consultants
who are totally out of touch with the country and dump all
the republican operatives in the media department. Failing miserably.
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 10:20 AM
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53. That was basically what said.
Edited on Sun Feb-12-06 10:20 AM by Maestro
Maybe if we repeat it enough, they will do something about it.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 09:17 AM
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50. WTF? Have I visisted the DCCC website?
Well, let's see...I'm taking a poll on a website that says DCCC.org so, ummm, yeah, I guess I've visited your fucking website!!!
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 10:17 AM
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52. Done!
Very few choices for leaders in the survey. Dean definitely got my vote though!
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Democrat 4 Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 02:41 PM
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55. I answered their little poll but I'm betting right now they are sorry
they asked for a bunch of "out of the beltway" opinions. We need to keep the pressure on this bunch. I'm pretty sure they are getting the idea there is a lot of anger in the country and they have earned more than their fair share by letting the repugs just cakewalk through our Constitution, etc.

Here is what I wrote -

Until the Democrats stand up and grow a backbone we are going to get our asses handed to us on a plate every single time. Every time a repug spokesperson gets in front of a TV we hear the same old mantra that Dems are weak on defense, scared little children, unpatriotic, and clueless I want to spit nails. I KNOW it isn't true but a significant majority of Americans do not know that message is false. Your job is to make sure they know it is untrue and no more than repug drivel from a corrupt party.

I will work my fingers to the bone for each and every candidate that stands up and calls a spade a spade and a lying Republican a lying Republican. My money and my efforts will ONLY go to candidates that speak truth to everyone - like Hackett running for Senate in Ohio. His failed candidacy for the House has been the only state candidacy that I have ever given money or worked for outside my home state. He won't be the last.

I want filibusters against horrible, unfair legislation and nominees, I want effective, clear spoken people on the airwaves calling the repug hatefesters the liars that they are. If voter fraud steals an election I expect you guys to stand up and scream bloody hell. You guys made me proud for one brief moment - when you stood and clapped during the State of the Union when Bush whined about his failed "Social Security Give Away to Wall Street Plan." Make standing up the norm and not just a one time event. Shut down the Senate if necessary, throw roadblocks every inch of the way - that is the way the repugs got into power and impeached a popular president over nothing - hand it back to them. Facts and the political climate is on your side - why the hell aren't you making hay?

Get a clue - gone are the days that you can be statesmen and meet in the center of the aisle and work out issues in a bi-partisan and fair way. They don't fight fair, they don't give one whit about bi-partisan anything and they are committed to seeing this country become a one-party, neoconservative theocracy to divert attention away from their party and their friends stealing this country blind - and so far the DCCC is doing a might fine job of helping them.

One more thing - just in case the repugs or you guys missed it - I AM AN ANGRY LIBERAL. Not Hillary, not Dean, Me! And I am not afraid of the words "liberal" or "angry" and I am both to the nth degree. There are millions of Dems and millions of moderate repugs that are just waiting for someone, anyone to grow a set of cojones - any takers?

And finally, get rid of any wishy washy Dems, make it clear that CYA time is over - get aboard the Dem agenda to get this mess of repugs out of office or get out of the way and make space for a Dem who will. Lieberman, Biden, and all the other pat-a-cake Senators who like to schmooze with the Repugs need to go home and write their memoirs - they are of no use to us now.

I'm as grassroots as they come - very little money but I have got the time and the ability to work for decent, effective candidates. Now lead or get out of the way. Let the people who worry and care more about their country than the ones who worry more about their precious Senate and House seats and their pensions take a shot. Enough.
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RazzleDazzle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 04:17 PM
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56. NO WAY!!!!!
I got it all filled out -- took quite a bit of time with it, esp. the remarks at the very bottom, only to find out that email address is required. NO WAY IN HELL I'm going to put myself on their mailing list.

Further, if you think anyone is going to pay attention to this, OTHER THAN to develop an email list to be used primarily for soliciting contributions (give us your money and we'll pretend to give a damn about what you think), well, let me talk to you about a certain bridge. Oh, sure, they may use some of the percentages if it suits them, but they WON'T be using the survey results to DEVELOP policy or agendas or platforms or campaigns. No, they've got their DLC consultants for that. YOUR voice doesn't matter, only your money.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 04:32 PM
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62. I think it's better to tell them what you think
You can be as harsh as you want, and you can ALWAYS unsubscribe from their email list. I sent the survey in and I haven't gotten an email yet; if I do, I'll unsubscribe. Small price to pay for telling them what I think of their Hillarycentric "leadership" poll.
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Joey Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 04:56 PM
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58. Here's what I posted
I say its time to take the gloves off. Democrats seem to be worried about the backlash from Faux News, Limbaugh and Ann Coulter. Listen to your base. Want to see how we feel? Visit the web site of Carl Sheeler, Senate candidate from R.I at:
www.carlsheeler.com
This is how your base feels. We are tired of being kicked around by the republicans. Where is the leadership? We've got all of these scandals going on with the republicans. We need to take advantage. Lets not be wishy washy on this. Lot's of veterans are running for office as Democrats. We need to support them every way that we can, especially when the republicans try to "Swift Boat" them.
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CarlSheeler4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 09:59 PM
Response to Reply #58
78. Joey Thanks. We can do it together only!
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OffWithTheirHeads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 08:58 PM
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60. I told them (among other things)
That they need to fight the Republicans in Washington so we don't have to fight them in the streets.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 04:50 PM
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63. DCCC and DSCC are doing their jobs...
And that is to get Democrats elected. They recruit candidates, and support them monetarily. They are not obligated to give money to every Democrat that enters the race. Brown was trouncing Hackett, so the DSCC backed the stronger horse. Hackett could have stayed in, but undoubtedly realized he didn't have the support he needed.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 04:57 PM
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66. "Brown was trouncing Hackett"
Bull. And I doubt that Brown has much of a chance against DeWine -- especially now.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 04:58 PM
Response to Reply #66
67. Hackett had a fraction of the money Brown had...
ANd the latest poll puts Brown ahead of DeWine...

Just the kind of good progressive everyone here always wishes the Democratic establishment would get behind.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 05:05 PM
Response to Reply #67
68. The latest poll -- as paid for by the Brown campaign
That's like the fast food industry sponsoring a report that says Burger King is good for you.

Money? It's only the middle of Febuary! Do you know how much money Hackett got from out of state Democrats in just a few weeks before election day against Schmidt? A ton. He was going to get a ton more once again from outside the state when the campaigning began in late spring or early summer.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 05:17 PM
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69. If that was the case...
And is as much support was coming his way as you say...why didn't he then have the cajones to stay in. The only pressure that could be brought to bear by Reid, Schumer and the DSCC is money. They backed a different horse. If Hacketts support was going to be so widespread he should have stayed in..

Oh and the latest Zogby


The same Zogby poll had U.S. Rep. Sherrod Brown (D-Avon) unseating incumbent Republican Sen. Mike DeWine in the 2006 race for U.S. Senate.
The online poll had Brown beating DeWine 41.3 percent to 37 percent.


http://www.ohio.com/mld/ohio/news/13669239.htm
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 05:31 PM
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70. Money comparison...from the FEC
As that known "corporatist" sellout Kos pointed out, Hackett had one-tenth the money Brown did.

Brown

Total Receipts: $817,932
Transfers From Authorized Committees: $0
Individual Contributions: $424,821
Non-Party (e.g. PACs) or Other Committees: $343,369
Beginning Cash: $2,102,835
Latest Cash On Hand: $2,368,982
Debts Owed By: $0


Hackett

Total Receipts: $465,929
Transfers From Authorized Committees: $0
Individual Contributions: $465,929
Beginning Cash: $0
Latest Cash On Hand: $229,783
Debts Owed By: $0


http://herndon1.sdrdc.com/cgi-bin/cancomsrs/?_06+S6OH00163
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 06:25 PM
Response to Reply #70
74. I borrowed this and posted it elsewhere...
Edited on Tue Feb-14-06 06:26 PM by MrBenchley
Sure doesn't seem that Hackett was setting Ohio on fire, does it? Maybe instead of blaming everybody else, he should have quit a bit more gracefully.

"You won't have Paul Hackett to kick around any more."
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 09:32 PM
Response to Reply #74
76. Or stuck to it...
I mean the Minnesota DFL officially endorses a candidate every election, yet they often lose in the primary. Perhaps the Hackett partisans (and I like Paul Hackett and wish he hadn't decided not to run for Congress), should direct their disappointment at him for not sticking with it.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 08:23 AM
Response to Reply #76
77. Remember, we've been hearing for months
that the Democratic party should have a purge to get rid of all the candidates who don't hew to the progressive ideology.

Now Hackett quits (and his positions on immigration and guns was identical to a neanderthal turd like Tom Tancredo) and some folks imagine they got the purge they demanded....and now they're enraged they got what they wanted.

Just one more bit of evidence we're getting ratfucked by non-Democrats.
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 04:51 PM
Response to Original message
64. I give them my opinion
Every time I tear up the envelope they send me for a donation.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 04:54 PM
Response to Original message
65. I gave them a piece of mind
Thanks for the link.
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TriMetFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 05:54 PM
Response to Original message
71. Well they also got a earful from me too.
Commit I wrote:

"I think it is time to quit playing games and start fighting back with hard blows at Bush and company. I'm sick of seeing you people backing down. Also I was once a Republican and turned to the Democratic Party for salvation. I'm starting to feel like The Democratic Party is leaving me and I'm starting to look at The Green Party. Have some guts and help save America!"

And yes I'm a pissed off ex-Republican and if things don't start changing for the GOOD ex-Democratic!:mad:
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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 06:11 PM
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72. done. nt
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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 06:11 PM
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73. done. nt
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mokawanis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 06:39 PM
Response to Original message
75. I asked them to go out and find the next LaFollette
and rerun the Progressive Era--- then I suggested Feingold.
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 10:18 PM
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79. I filled in "all of the above" several times
I hope they wake up soon
:kick:
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Chi-Town Exile Donating Member (546 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 02:42 PM
Response to Reply #79
83. Me too!
Have to admit that their list of Democratic "leaders" was pathetic. (with the exception of Dr. Dean)

No Conyers, Boxer or Feingold. Pretty much tells us what we need to know.
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The Time is Now Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 09:37 AM
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80. Here's the letter that I just wrote to them.
The two-party system is alive and well in this country. We have a choice between the Republican Party, and the Republican-lite Party. If you love the war in Iraq, go with the Republicans. If you like the war in Iraq, but want to make some cosmetic changes, go with the Republican-lites. If you are really into wiretapping American citizens, go Republican. If don't want to look like a weakling for even raising questions about the wiretapping American citizens, the Republican-lites are your team. If you love Samuel Alito, go with the Republicans. If you like Samuel Alito, but want to quibble about some issues, go with Republican-lites. If you want to reward credit card companies for usury with a draconian bankruptcy bill aimed against the poor and middle classes - and who doesn't? - you have your choice of going with either of the major parties.

If, however, you don't like the war in Iraq and the attendant torture and Halliburton corruptions, are deeply troubled by power grabs by the Bush Administration, feel that Alito represents a sop to corporate and governmental interests, you too have a choice. It is called Canada.

I don't think you people have any idea of how great the level of dismay is in this country, nor how profound sense of disenfranchisement is. You are part of the problem. Please offer us a real choice. In this way, you become the solution.


I've never given a kick before - lemme see if I can persuade this mule to...

:kick:

Kick!
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Chi-Town Exile Donating Member (546 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 02:40 PM
Response to Original message
82. Thanks for the link!
Just let them have it.

I said my greatest wish for them is to have Dr. Dean give them a SPINE transplant.

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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 01:00 AM
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85. Done. Thank you for the link.
Edited on Sun Feb-19-06 01:02 AM by Crunchy Frog
I told them why I contribute to individual candidates and will not contribute to their organization.
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 01:16 AM
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86. Completed and Done ! Kick it !
:kick:
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