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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 11:39 AM
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Scalia Dismisses 'Living Constitution'
Edited on Tue Feb-14-06 11:41 AM by Roland99
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060214/ap_on_go_su_co/scalia_constitution_2

PONCE, Puerto Rico - People who believe the Constitution would break if it didn't change with society are "idiots," U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia says.

In a speech Monday sponsored by the conservative Federalist Society, Scalia defended his long-held belief in sticking to the plain text of the Constitution "as it was originally written and intended."

"Scalia does have a philosophy, it's called originalism," he said. "That's what prevents him from doing the things he would like to do," he told more than 100 politicians and lawyers from this U.S. island territory.

According to his judicial philosophy, he said, there can be no room for personal, political or religious beliefs.



:eyes:


And speaking of himself in the 3rd person now???

oof


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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 11:41 AM
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1. Scalia supports slavery!
The Constitution "as it was originally written and intended" had slavery enshrined in it.

Way to go Scalia!
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shoelace414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 11:42 AM
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4. where is slavery banned in the consititution?
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 11:56 AM
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8. Amendment 13.
Amendment XIII - Slavery Abolished. Ratified 12/6/1865. History

1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.


www.usconstitution.net/const.html#Am13

But Scalia doesn't approve of those nasty Amendments. Especially the ones called The Bill of Rights.


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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 11:57 AM
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9. Bill of Rights....quaint little items, aren't they?
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shoelace414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 12:39 PM
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11. I guess I could have looked that up myself.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 01:29 PM
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12. Hey, my political science classes finally paid off!
Although it's been many years. The occasional refresher course can be fun.
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 11:41 AM
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2. there can be no room for personal, political or religious beliefs.
Then why does he always shove his into his decissions?
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Punkingal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 11:42 AM
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3. Yeah, right....
"no room for personal, political or religious beliefs", and if you buy that one, I've got some ocean-front property for you in Nevada. :puke:
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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 11:42 AM
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5. And what are the things he would like to do?
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 11:47 AM
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7. I'm afraid to find out.
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 11:47 AM
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6. The Constition died in 2000 when the Supreme Court selected George Bush.
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DarienComp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 12:37 PM
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10. "Idiots", huh.
Scalia is all class. :eyes:
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 01:45 PM
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13. Hmm...is Scalia going hunting with DICK soon?
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NativeTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 01:47 PM
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14. Unless it has to do with State Rights in presidential elections.....
.....!! Then THAT is another matter.
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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 02:30 PM
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15. Good.
I guess that means we'll be pulling out of the WTO (and ending that fast track business) so we can go back to congressional regulation of trade as specified in the Constitution.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 03:25 PM
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16. Keep dreaming.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 03:26 PM
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17. I am worth 3/5th of a landowner?
wtf?
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 05:52 PM
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18. and women don't have the right to vote
and state legislatures elect the state's senators
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 06:30 PM
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19. Scalia's VERY SCARY comments on constitution in 2001
(unable to post a workable link to story; can access it by searching newspaper's archives----there are other stories equally unsettling if you search archives for Scalia between 1/16/2001 and 5/14/2001)


The Vapid Justice Scalia
The Capital Times :: EDITORIAL :: 8A
Friday, March 16, 2001
Given his reputation as an intellectual heavyweight on the U.S. Supreme Court, Justice Antonin Scalia's appearance Thursday at the UW Law School should have been the most thought-provoking event of the academic season. Instead, Scalia turned in a performance so vapid that, had he been applying for a faculty spot, he would rightly have been sent packing.
People can agree to disagree regarding Scalia's politics. But even legal conservatives who share his dim worldview would have trouble making a case for him as a lecturer.

Sticking to a script thick with laugh lines but devoid of fresh ideas, Scalia declared himself a constitutional "originalist" - meaning that he seeks to draw within legal lines established by the authors of the Bill of Rights.

After declaring himself a defender of the founding vision, however, he closed his talk by allowing that, in light of the obvious differences between circumstances in 1801 and 2001, he must adjust decisions to meet contemporary realities. "I have to figure the trajectory of the First Amendment," he claimed. That's like closing an argument that the death penalty is wrong by saying, "Unless, of course, the guy is really guilty."

Equally absurd were Scalia's references to "the good old days" of judicial "orthodoxy" - which, he says, ended about 60 years ago. Scalia fostered the lie that Supreme Court decisions defending slavery and racial discrimination were grounded in a thoughtful interpretation of the Constitution - as opposed to legal activism. He also argued that the federal judiciary is today on a renegade course because most judges interpret the Constitution's equal protection clause as requiring that women and people of color be afforded equal rights to vote and to participate in American democracy.

In those "good old days," Scalia said, "You could discriminate in the franchise on many grounds without violating the equal protection clause." That was just before the judicial activist who engineered the high court's shutdown of Florida's vote count last fall said, "A basic principle of all democracy is that the majority wins."

Then there was his attempt to tell a student that the constitutional bar on "cruel and unusual punishment" could be interpreted as restricting the use of "thumb screws" but not "Old Sparky."

Funny guy, that Antonin Scalia.

It's too bad that the biggest joke of the day was the argument he attempted to make for his approach to the law.


NOTE ESPECIALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

'...Scalia's references to "the good old days" of judicial "orthodoxy" - which, he says, ended about 60 years ago. Scalia fostered the lie that Supreme Court decisions defending slavery and racial discrimination were grounded in a thoughtful interpretation of the Constitution - as opposed to legal activism. He also argued that the federal judiciary is today on a renegade course because most judges interpret the Constitution's equal protection clause as requiring that women and people of color be afforded equal rights to vote and to participate in American democracy.

In those "good old days," Scalia said, "You could discriminate in the franchise on many grounds without violating the equal protection clause."


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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 06:54 PM
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20. Shouldn't he go on another hunting trip with Cheney?
They could grab their flasks and discuss this matter.
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 08:29 PM
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21. Scalia is apparently due to "blow off steam" at another orgy
still baffled as to why that got so little press - Mr. Christian Conservative, endorsing orgies? Damn weird. If Breyer or Stevens said that, it would be brought up every time they were mentioned.
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 08:36 PM
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22. a suitable position for the undead. n/t
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