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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 02:41 PM
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Any links to transcript of Dean speech re Hackett?
Edited on Sat Feb-18-06 02:46 PM by OzarkDem
The AP article was incredibly brief, vague and out of context. It would certainly be interesting to see what Dean actually said.

Its not like we haven't seen this sort of hit and run journalism before.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 02:55 PM
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1. Don't you ever do your own searches?????
You always look to others to do your bidding......:shrug:

Of course your interpretation of that speech will be from Bizzaro Land.....
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 03:45 PM
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2. You will have to do your own search, decide for yourself.
However every Deaniac knows that skullduggery is very typical word he would use. It is very much a Dean style word.
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 04:01 PM
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3. Here's the only non-AP story I could find about the event.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 04:14 PM
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4. Like many of his most powerful comments....
I hear this was not made behind the podium, but while mingling. I can not swear to that. However, when he said he agreed with Kerry and Kennedy on the Alito matter, that was said in a small group after his speech...said to media and bystanders.

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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 05:25 PM
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6. Nothing in there about "skullduggery"
Interesting, other reporters attending the event didn't notice the quote. Sounds very much like it was taken out of context if, in fact, he said it at all.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 05:22 PM
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5. No source, no links, no proof?
Looks like this one needs to be treated with a grain of salt then...
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 05:31 PM
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7. Hey, maybe he did not say it, and we are all lying!
Think about it. Maybe we "catapulted the propaganda." Hey, maybe the AP catapulted it as well.

Why does this disturb you so?
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 05:36 PM
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8. It would be really disappointing
if he used this opportunity to attack the campaign of a good, progressive Dem, Sherrod Brown, just because Paul Hackett wasn't experienced enough to launch a winning senate campaign and had to pull out.

I admire Dean and expect better from him.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 05:41 PM
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9. My take is that it would have had nothing to do with Sherrod Brown.
If Dean said it, I believe it would have been because he was defending the right of Democrats to VOTE our preference, rather than have the leadership's choice handed to us, like it or not.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 05:48 PM
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10. Difficult to make that distinction
Dean would bash the mysterious Dem leaders who "forced" out a candidate whose own staff was buckling under the pressure to help a novice launch an incredibly difficult and expensive campaign? And he would be able to criticize the Dem leaders, but not Sherrod Brown? I don't think so.

I'd be very surprised if he made such a remark and I remind everyone to beware of GOP tactics to divide the party.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 05:51 PM
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12. It's just my take. I can see Dean being mad about him being pushed out,
especially since they initially urged him to run.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 05:50 PM
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11. Dean believes in primaries.
He said nothing about Brown then, and he later praised him and said get behind him.

He does not think there should be interference in primaries.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 06:21 PM
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13. I wonder if he realizes
his remarks are being used against Brown anyway?
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 06:45 PM
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14. He should have said it, it needed to be said.
Look at what is being used against Hackett. No one has found anything he said about Brown. Go to the DNC blog, scroll down, and you will find his comments about coming together now.

You need to stop fixating on this. Our party is going to be in an fight for its very nature....and I guarantee you Dean will be saying a hell of lot more than that.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 07:19 PM
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16. I have some bad news for you
Republicans are already fixating on this and exploiting it to its maximum effect. The motherjones article, with its unsubstantiated, broad brush accusations against Brown and Dem leaders, is probably the most popular article the GOP'ers are linking to right now.

Having Dean heap more fuel on the fire isn't helping.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 01:10 PM
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17. Well, there's a thought for you.
If the Republicans criticize it, maybe they won't do it anymore.

You have an interesting avatar for someone who is so afraid of confrontation and speaking truth to power.

There was skullduggery, we all know it. Dean just put words to it.
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 02:51 PM
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18. Freepers diggin it-
Edited on Sun Feb-19-06 03:25 PM by Algorem
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1581682/posts

Rush Limburger's diggin it-

Reid Torpedoed Hackett for "War Crimes"

February 17, 2006

BEGIN TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: If you want to have some fun this afternoon when the program is over, go visit any liberal blog website, because Mother Jones has an article, a very long article, on how Paul Hackett got sabotaged by Harry Reid. Paul Hackett was going to run for the Senate against Mike DeWine in Ohio. The Democratic Party came in and they sabotaged him. They threw him under the bus; they threw him overboard, and now we know why.

Mother Jones has done some investigative journalism here, and it turns out that the Democrats believe that Paul Hackett committed "war crimes" while in Iraq. They had pictures, and Dingy Harry and other Democrats started spreading rumors that Hackett committed war crimes in the way he dealt with Iraqis, and that they had pictures -- and they got on the phone and they started telling Hackett's donors about this and told them not to donate anymore, had to get rid of the guy, and Hackett is fit to be tied.

When the blogosphere finds out about this -- because Hackett was their hero -- you know, it's not often a Democrat can find a person wearing a uniform that they admire, and they had found one in Paul Hackett -- and now the very party that they're at odds with already... I mean, the blogosphere, the kooks out there in Kooksville despise these elected Democrats. They think they're a bunch of cowards and linguini-spined wimps, and when they find out that the Democratic Party skewered this guy and tried to make him out to be, "Just like George Bush, just like a war criminal." Oh! folks! The eruptions at Democrat Underground, Daily Kos, MoveOn.org, are going to be priceless today.

END TRANSCRIPT

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_021706/content/truth_detector.guest.html


The Democratic Party's being swiftboated.
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 07:40 PM
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19. whole lot of freepin goin on
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 09:35 AM
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20. Linking from your Home Page again??????
:shrug:
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OhioBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 01:31 PM
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21. ...
:rofl:
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 07:59 PM
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22. Not funny.I notice you're very free with insults and accusations.
Edited on Mon Feb-20-06 08:53 PM by Algorem
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rexcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 06:54 PM
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15. That is more like Brown cultist paranoia than anything else.
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