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JABBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 02:18 PM
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Chertoff Knew Brown Was Failing, But Didn't Tell Bush ... Or Brown
Which was more important, helping the people of the Gulf Coast survive Hurricane Katrina ... or Federal Emergency Management Agency Director Mike Brown's feelings?

Based on his interview today with NBC's Tim Russert, you'd have to conclude that Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff was more concerned with Brown's feelings. Perhaps that's a piece of the puzzle as to why the federal government so badly managed last summer's disaster.

Maybe, instead of worrying about keeping "people's spirits up," Chertoff should have been working with Brown to come up with solutions to the myriad of problems that occurred in the days following the storm. Perhaps the death toll might not have been as high if Chertoff had worried less about giving "brutal assessments about people’s performance."

Given what we know now about Chertoff's incompetence, isn't it time President Bush ask Chertoff to resign?

From today's edition of NBC's Meet the Press:

CHERTOFF: Thursday night, I began to — I asked myself, “Are we dealing with a situation where it’s not just the inherent, overwhelming challenge, but that maybe, despite good intentions, Mr. Brown is really not up to this.

RUSSERT: “Mike Brown not up to this.” The very next day, the president came down to the Gulf region, and here you are on the screen — right of the screen in the purple shirt, Mr. Brown in the middle, the president on the left. And this is where the president uttered these now-infamous words. Let’s listen.

(Videotape, September 2, 2005)

PRESIDENT BUSH: Brownie, you’re doing a heck of a job.

(End videotape)

RUSSERT: The president is saying he’s doing a heck of a job; the night before, you’re saying, “I don’t think the guy’s up to it.” Why didn’t you tell the president?

CHERTOFF: Well, again, I never get into conversations with the president. But I do think the context of that remark is that Brown had been up for, you know, practically every night for the last few days. I think whatever my judgment was about whether his skills were matched to the challenge, I think certainly everybody believed at that point he was doing his best. And I think this is really an effort to kind of buck the troops up, recognize the fact that everybody was really exhausted and working hard. And the fact is, we were in the middle — still very much in the middle of the event, and we needed to keep people’s spirits up, so I think you’ve got to look at this as — in the context of a recognition that everybody was really exhausted and overwhelmed by the nature of the challenge.

RUSSERT: Was it an attempt to spin the American people? Things on the ground were in such stark reality to what the official pronouncements coming out of the government were?

CHERTOFF: No, I think — I think, you know, when you are in a disaster, you actually look people in the eyes, and you see how they’re working their hearts out. And even if it — if they haven’t done the kind of job that you wish they could have done. As a human matter, I think you want to reach out, you want to, you know, pat them on the back, you want to buck them up. I don’t think that’s the time to start to engage in finger pointing or in — in, you know, giving brutal assessments about people’s performance.

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RufusEarl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 02:21 PM
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1. Not being able to speak truth to power!
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 02:22 PM
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2. Fire him already.....if the man can't handle...
a storm...How is he handling the Department of Homeland Security!! How can Americans continue to justify this failure of a man in this critical job.

He doesn't get into discussions with the President!! If he doesn't talk to him during a critical storm...if we get hit by a Nuke...


Why isn't he gone yet?
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 02:42 PM
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6. They've already set him up for the big fire...PORTS Deal will
be his death toll.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 03:02 PM
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10. I thought Katrina would be it .....but nooooo.....
So who is going to be the next incompetent political hack they replace him with?
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 02:23 PM
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3. He's so thoughtful. That might just earn him a medal.
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Chiyo-chichi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 02:31 PM
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4. Chertoff is not incomeptent.
He is evil.

He successfully defended 9/11 financier Magdy Elamir. Elamir had known connections to bin Laden for years.

Those are the facts. Shouldn't that disqualify him for the position of Director of Homeland Security?

http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20050114164222748

"Why would New Jersey's Top Attorney Michael Chertoff represent a person of el-Amir's relatively modest financial position? Though comfortable, el-Amir had failed to reach millionaire status. Not exactly Chertoff's typical clientele, as reported by The Bergen Record on June 19, 2000:

"New Jersey is home to about 65,000 lawyers, some of whom are quite good at what they do. But if the state had a First Lawyer, or a Lawyer Laureate, it just might be Michael Chertoff..."
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 02:40 PM
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5. What soonerhoosier said.
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 02:48 PM
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8. Being a good lawyer does not mean
that one is a good manager or have a clue about security or emergency disaster response.

He got this job becasue he was that he was special counsel for the Senate committee studying allegations against the Clintons and was a fund raiser for Bush.


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Chiyo-chichi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 02:57 PM
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9. That's true.
He may or may not be a generally competent person. I agree that he was & is expressly UNQUALIFIED for his current position.

I also like to bring up his connection with Magdy Elamir whenever possible, which should have DISqualified him.

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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 02:47 PM
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7. In my role as a management auditor, I had to deal with inept managers ...
... who were knowingly put in their positions by the executives to whom they reported. Let's be clear. It's not that unusual for executives to promote/appoint someone in whom they have faith - faith that they'll "grow into the job." Sometimes, the newly-appointed manager gets in too far over their heads and the executives withhold the support and resources that might overcome the difficulties, compounding a problem and generating a catastrophe. In such events, it's NEVER a good idea to make the manager a fall-guy - nor is a cover-up called for.

The approach I've taken is to say "you've been part of the problem - the question is whether you'll be part of the solution." I've said this to both the manager and the executives. (It's one of the inversions of authority that comes with the role of being a management auditor - and having "the goods" on them.)

The best possible result is when the executives take responsibility for their choice and pour the (delayed and withheld) support and resources into shoring up the victimized manager in creating the improvements and solutions ot the failing operations. It requires candor, integrity, and diligence - and the absence of any of them makes any long-term improvement impossible.

Bush/Cheney/Chertoff KNEW Brown wasn't qualified. Instead of shoring up the organization and providing the kind of support and resources that would protect against the failings of Brown, they backed off even further (in "cover your ass" mode) and turned a failure into a total catastrophe. One can surely fault Brown for taking a job he was unqualified to perform. The greater fault lies with Chertoff and Bush for exacerbating the impact of Brown's ineptitude and letting the failures become catastrophic - especially when they damned well KNEW he wasn't up to the job.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 03:07 PM
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11. TahitiNut that is this administration....
Not only do they put unqualified people in positions of National Security, they don't support them and during the same time they cut funding and reorg the organizations. Hurricane season is right around the corner and Chertoff is now reorganizaing FEMA again. It's obvious that this organization needs to return to a cabinet position, but we know it never will because * doesn't have time for Federal Emergency Management crisis.

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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 03:31 PM
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14. Hurricanes don't bleed and beg for mercy.
Thus, the sociopaths in charge aren't motivated. They want blood. They want an 'enemy' they can kill, imprison, and enslave.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 03:23 PM
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12. Hey! Thousands were dying, so I felt sorry for BROWNIE? wtf?
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 03:27 PM
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13. Skeletor (Chertoff) is Eichmann (or maybe Heydrich)
All the rich people got out in their SUVs. Skeletor and Frodo don't care about black people and, as long as it was poor, black people dying, Skeletor wasn't going to lift a finger until he was shamed into it.

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