EMILY's List Announces Endorsement of Tammy Duckworth

[Freddie Stubbs]

EMILY's List Announces Endorsement of Tammy Duckworth for Illinois’ 6th Congressional District
WASHINGTON, D.C. -- EMILY's List, the nation's largest political and grassroots network and financial resource for women running for elective office, today announced its endorsement of Tammy Duckworth in her bid for Illinois’ 6th Congressional District.

“Tammy Duckworth has dedicated her life and career to serving her country and her community. She represents the Illinois value of hard work, and is a committed, diligent leader. As a member of Congress, she will fight for affordable health care, better schools, and sound fiscal management,” said Ellen R. Malcolm, president of EMILY's List. “Tammy has earned impressive support across the 6th Congressional District in Illinois, and demonstrated that she is one of our best opportunities to pick up a Democratic seat in the U.S. House. EMILY's List considers this to be one of our top priority races and our membership will dedicate their considerable strength to seeing that Tammy Duckworth is victorious.”

Tammy Duckworth has channeled her personal experience and expertise into being a passionate and articulate advocate for Americans’ right to quality, affordable healthcare. In Congress, she will fight to fix the deeply-flawed Medicare prescription drug program and seek to restore the shameful cuts in health benefits for veterans and their families. Duckworth has served her country and those in need in the U.S. and around the world. At the time of her deployment to Iraq, Duckworth was working as a staff supervisor at the worldwide headquarters of Rotary International. Among her projects was helping American Rotary clubs send wheelchairs to Iraq. Her career experience, strong local roots, and dedication to serving people demonstrate that Duckworth has what it takes to successfully win this Congressional seat.

more: http://www.emilyslist.org/newsroom/releases/20060222.html

[MrBenchley]

1. Glad to hear it....

Tammy sounds like a terrific candidate.

[madfloridian]

2. Piling on. It is called overkill.

Once you have Durbin switch over to Duckworth, Pelosi give a fundraiser for Duckworth, the party giving her a big money fundraiser at the DCCC headquarters in DC...

Then the rest is just everyone else piling on to humiliate the grassroots.

I pray to God Cegelis wins this. I sent some more her way today through DFA.

[DaveinMD]

3. yeah

because Emily's List's mission in life is to piss off the grassroots.

[Adelante]

5. I pray to God Duckworth wins this

So what?

[madfloridian]

7. Since you don't care about fair primaries....

I will care for you. I care that this was bungled so badly. It took away the voice of the people of that district, or tried to do so.

It is not about Duckworth. She is as much a victim as Cegelis and the grassroots.

[Adelante]

8. Since you don't care for military candidates

As you have made abundantly clear, day in and day out, I take your presence in this thread as more of the same. You have your candidate to support and I have mine. But I did NOT go and piss on your Cegelis fest thread, now did I?

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[Tom Rinaldo]

14. I don't despise you MF, not at all You are sincere in your beleifs

and often we agree, but even if we didn't, you are sincere in your beliefs and that is the bottom line for me. The rest is just debate, and sometimes debate gets heated, but when it is time to put intra-Party competition behind us, or when it is not an issue to begin with, I aways welcome your energy and conviction.

Lots of us have exposed buttons around here for more or less good reasons. But I don't get confused about who is on my side in the bigger picture.

[wiley]

19. Clark Supporters respect conviction

You are well respected, at least by me.

[Adelante]

21. I haven't noticed you objecting to John Courage in Texas

That's true. But then that is a DFA-endorsed veteran, so it's okay.

[madfloridian]

23. You are really out of line on this.

I get tired of having everything I say mispresented. Think whatever you want, say whatever you want to say.

[Adelante]

24. Okay, I will

You've been on a crusade against military veteran candidates for months. Overkill is right!

[LincolnMcGrath]

25. Got Links?

[madfloridian]

27. I will do a search for my posts on the topic. But this group has a list..

of everything I ever post. So they will be faster coming up with it.

Boy, I can't wait until both campaigns get started on me, the Clark and Kerry campaigns.

Here I come Feingold or Edwards.....

Enough is just enough. If you will wait I will do a round up of all my posts about not wanting military candidates. Give a while, have some folks stopping by from the DEC.

[Adelante]

29. I have no list of what you post, for goodness sake

Yesterday it was IAVA PAC is "Third Way" or some nonsense. Anything having to do with veterans riles you up. I don't think I've said a word about it before now, but I've had enough. Go Feingold or Edwards. Who cares? :shrug:

[madfloridian]

26. I will be on guard. As I usually am.

I can not wait until all the campaigns start out in full gear. There is going to be so much hate that no one can stand it.

I will be on guard. I will watch for the barbs with the new interns going on campaigns. I will be on guard.

[Ken Burch]

94. She's only been against non-progressive , prowar vets

Since vets who came home and are still prowar can be assumed to be basically conservative on everything that matters,
why should Mad Floridian oppose them?

Duckworth should be in the Republican primary.

[WildEyedLiberal]

83. That's a dirty, lower than low thing to say and you should be ashamed

Just stop trying to manipulate everything into being some leftover primary/candidate battles. WesDem's post has NOTHING to do with her being a Clark supporter and my disagreements with you have nothing to do with who I support or don't support.

You are trying to create division where there is none. You imply that anyone who disagrees with you has an insidious agenda that is born of our attempt to infiltrate the Democratic party and silence you and the DFA or whatever the fuck, and it's pathetic and disruptive and slanderous and I'm sick of it. You seriously need to learn how to disagree with people without resorting to such filthy dirty underhanded tactics.

Here's a big old HINT for you: there's not going to be ANY "healing" as long as you keep sowing distrust and division and suspicion in this forum and as long as you keep implying that anyone disagreeing with you is "stifling the grassroots" or is on some quest to promote their "agenda" by "silencing" you. I had no intentions of posting in this thread until I read your underhanded slur. So who's spreading this "hatred," hmm?

[CarolNYC]

33. I don't understand this....

Are the people of that district not being allowed to vote? Has the primary been canceled and Duckworth declared the winner? If so, that's bad. If not, don't the people still have a voice if they choose to vote in the primary election? Or are the Duckworth people fixing the voting machines? I just don't understand your post at all.

And I hate to burst your persecution bubble, but I imagine I could be considered one of "the Clark people" (unless that also has some meaning that I'm not privy to) and I don't despise you...as much as you seem to want me to....I often don't understand you but I don't despise you and, try as hard as you might, you can't make me do so. So there. :P

[madfloridian]

38. Same thing said about other races...

Ones I have written about here. People say oh don't worry, no one is stopping them from voting. Well, actually, once the party starts this it can be the death knell of having a competitive primary.

Christine has DFA and PDA in her corner, and she is very popular from before...so in a way she is lucky.

In Florida D16 has a Republican millionaire with money to burn running against two Democratic teachers. He has the DCCC and the state chair working for him as well as Bill Nelson...Guess who has the power.

[mopinko]

39. the primary playing field is being tipped

in favor of big money. i don't have a problem with rich people being represented. but they have already got enough congressmen serving their interests. we are not telling duckworth to go home, but we are trying to make sure that people know who the real grassroots candidate is, and who is astrotruf.

[CarolNYC]

63. So, there are people trying...

Duckworth as the grassroots choice?

I hate the whole part that big money plays in politics, too....I imagine that you were upset with the way the whole Hackett thing went down too? That seemed to be a lot about money....

[mopinko]

77. when someone says a candidate

can't win, and is not raising enough money, i now know that means, the fat cats don't like him/her. which makes them cool with me. and when they go around saying 'this guy can't win' the fat cats know that means, 'do not give money to this person.' then they turn around and say, 'well you can't raise any money, so you are not a viable candidate.' tidy little circle to wrap a person up in, eh. full of plausible deniability, too.
tammy can have her shot, i think primaries are a good thing. i think christine will kill her in a fair fight. i am just expecting lots of dirty tricks.

[Freddie Stubbs]

81. Having too many supporters is a bad thing?

:shrug:

[Gidney N Cloyd]

4. Christine Cegelis got so close to beating Henry Hyde in

2004 that he finally decided it was time to step down and spend more youthful indescretion with his family. So the DLC wants to throw all that work and seasoning away and bring in another unknown who has to learn politics from the get-go. The rethugs have already settled who they'll replace Hyde with and are focusing on November. I'll vote for Duckworth if she gets past the primaries but goddammit, DLC, this is ridiculous.

[Tom Rinaldo]

6. Opposing Cegelis may not have been a good idea

I gave a donation to the Cegelis campaign a month or so back myself. But morphing Emily's List and Senator Durbin into the DLC simply isn't fair or accurate. I won't quarrel with how ML describes the chain of events , except for the "humiliation" part. But the DLC is not single handedly controlling every single thing that happens inside the Democratic Party that bothers grassroots activists. Emily's List is bringing in national resources for Duckworth and DFA is trying to do the same for Cegelis. Would it have been better if all national organizations had stayed out of this primary? Perhaps. But it's not always DLC this and DLC that.

Note: Major edit made above. I originally said I had no problem with how MF described events, except I had skipped past her part ascribing a motivation to humiliate the grassroots. I do not buy that, hence my edit.

[Tom Rinaldo]

12. Note that I just significantly edited the post above,...

...from how it originally read. If you opened it before my edit, you should note the change

[Gidney N Cloyd]

15. Rahm Emanuel is DLC and he's been the force behind the

whole Duckworth push. Maybe I should have mentioned his name in the earlier posting.

Here's his profile:

http://www.dlc.org/ndol_ci.cfm?kaid=103&subid=110&contentid=251073

[Tom Rinaldo]

17. I know about Emanuel

And every person is their own case. Kerry was DLC when he was asking for our votes to run for President. And to the best of my knowledge Durbin and Pelosi and Emily's List have never been described as DLC. Emmanual has a dual role. Democratic members of the House chose him to be head of the DCCC. It is a smear attempt to take the fact that Emmanual is an active DLC member and from that spin that anyone who supports Duckworth is DLC. That's all I'm saying. Argue as much as you want about the lack of respect local grass roots activists are given in a district relative to power players in the national Democratic Party. But it can not simply be boiled down to "The DLC". The DFA is becoming a power player in the Democratic Party also, and I tend to think it is a damn good one with good process and priorities. But they are trying to influence a local election also.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

28. "Durbin and Pelosi and Emily's List have never been described as DLC"

Nor were they by me, either. But I have to admit that it could be easily inferred by the thread I chose to post in. I'm afraid I got a bit off-topic.

[Tom Rinaldo]

30. Good enough for me. Thanks. I appreciate where you are coming from n/t

[mopinko]

37. "It is a smear attempt"

no, it is an evaluation of the candidate, her positions, and the issues she chooses to put forth.
when someone comes out of the gate, and in her first press release, chooses to take on the issue of the alternative minimum tax, and increased college tuition assistance, you know that candidate is not interested in the little people. in a candidate forum she was asked why she chose amt as an issue, and she said, well, people in this district have to pay it. pandering to the greed of people. great platform. got a real grip of the concept of the common good, doesn't she?
the fact that the rainmakers turned on the spigot for her, with meet-n-greets at the offices of high powered law firms, and d.c. lobbyists, tells me all i need to know.
who can beat the republican is a game that we the people have been losing big time. time to stand up for democracy, we the people, and what is RIGHT!!!

[Tom Rinaldo]

40. What I was speaking to was simple

I was saying that Emily's List does not equal DLC etc. That was my point. I wasn't even commenting on the women actually running. I hope they both get adequate funding for the Primary and I hope there is a full discussion of the issues in the district. Of the two, only one got money from me and it wasn't Duckworth, but I think she would probably make an excellent candidate too if she wins the Primary.

[mopinko]

79. i think tammy will be an excellent candidate as well

i just think she will suck as a congresswoman. she will dance with the ones that brung her, and that is not the people of the 6th district, and it is not me, and it is not the grassroots or the netroots of this party.
at any rate, we will add a d to our column, i think. unless they get too heavy handed, and people stay home. roskam is a juicy target. he wants to end public schools. he has a 526 on that issue. wants to have vouchers for private schools, period. yeah, sure, you can sell THAT to the soccer moms, sure.

[madfloridian]

88. I do think some of the congressional committee leaders..

have that as a goal. To keep the grassroots down. I really do. I was reading a summary of a meeting Brown had yesterday with some constituents, and I was struck by the opening sentence to the few gathered to meet with him. I am not sure of the exact words, but they were a warning not to make trouble or be rude or get out of line. How insulting that is.

I don't believe it is the candidates, though I learned that Brown is totally unaware that DCCC and DSCC are doing this kind of thing all over the country. He apparently did not know.

I do believe that the ones who run the committees want to have the final say, and making the rest of us appear incompetent or embarrassing us is the way to do it.

Hope that clarifies.

[Tom Rinaldo]

93. Thank you for expanding on your thought

While I wouldn't use the word humiliate personally, I have no doubt that there are a good many Democratic elected officials both inside and outside the DLC, who want to have grassroots input into Party decisions minimized and/or weakened. My general concern about that is on a grander scale than any one race or whether I would agree with this or that elected Democrat on who they support and why, regarding this race or any other.

I still urge Democratic activists to support the DNC and donate to it. Dean is trying to shift that top down dynamic as much as any one person can from the inside, and he deserves our support even if he can't always make all of us happy all of the time.

[MrBenchley]

16. LOL!

"So the DLC wants to throw all that work and seasoning away"
Cegelis is a four star disaster. She pissed away three quarters of the money she raised in a nonelection year, with nothing at all to show for it.

[Freddie Stubbs]

69. Losing by 12% isn't really that close

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/IL/

[minvis]

85. It's a hell of a lot closer when you compare it to 2002

Henry Hyde (R): 65%
Janet Robert (D): 35%

[Freddie Stubbs]

89. Both election had the same result

The Republican won.

[Ken Burch]

95. We can safely say Cegelis did better than a bland centrist hawk would have

Given that no Dem has ever taken the district, 45% was AMAZING.

And no one has produced a single poll showing Duckworth would be a stronger
candidate.

[FrenchieCat]

9. Emily's List had a choice between two female candidates in this

primary, and they chose.

Primary voters will have a chance to do the same come election day.

Many obviously feel that it is Duckworth who could most likely beat whomever the Repugs put out there....and that is what is important, and possibly why she received that endorsement over her opponent!

44% was how "close" Duckworth's primary opponent came to defeating Henry Hyde last Congressional election. 44% does not a win make...not even 45, 46, 47, 48, or 49%. For 32 years, that particular district has been returning Henry Hyde to the House, regardless of his "indiscretions". That means that they are pretty firmly entrenched. I for one, am glad that this majority of voters will have a reason to deviate from their 32 years of voting record and vote for a Democrat. A Strong NS candidate with a compelling personal story could possibly be what does it.

The question strategically speaking is NOT who could win a primary, but who can win the General election....because it's the GE that settles the score and makes the difference in taking the house back in 2006!

[MrBenchley]

22. Even more to the point...

Cegelis pissed away three quarters of the money she raised in 2005 with nothing at all to show for it.

Here's her year-end totals, showing she spent about $192,000 of the $228,000 she raised.

http://herndon1.sdrdc.com/cgi-bin/cancomsrs/

There's nothing sinister in wanting a candidate who shows some common sense.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

31. What % do most candidates piss away in an off-election year?

I'm not trying to be a wiseguy, honestly. I just would have assumed that it was common for a rookie candidate to have trouble raising money in an off year and to have to spend most of what was raised on rent, utilities and such.

[MrBenchley]

32. A few months ago I looked at several non-incumbents

in large blue states running against established Republicans who had raised similar amounts to Cegelis....and the expenditures for 2005 ranged from $3,000 to $7,500....

[LincolnMcGrath]

34. Who were these candidates you speak of?

Inquiring minds want to know.

[MrBenchley]

35. Go search for yourself....

[LincolnMcGrath]

36. Rrrrrrrright, I got ya. wink wink nudge nudge.

:rofl:

[MrBenchley]

42. Yup....I'm not going to do squat for the likes of you

[LincolnMcGrath]

46. Why do you hate Democrats?

[iconoclastNYC]

41. Oh more secret data you won't reveal

Interesting how your facts are always on double super secret background.

[MrBenchley]

43. I got no problem sharing data with most people

But considering that you don't know a fact from a fart, ask me next if I care what you think.

[mopinko]

44. you'd be hard pressed to prove

you know a fact from a fart. don't know who you think you are kidding. thanks for kickin the thread, tho.

[MrBenchley]

50. Always happy to point out what a good candidate Duckworth is....

[mopinko]

59. like i said.

fact or fart?

[LincolnMcGrath]

61. Something smells

:rofl:

[MrBenchley]

70. Duckworth is a fine candidate, and that's a fact....

In your case, you should light a match. Quickly.

[mopinko]

76. like you would even know.

on what do you base your opinion??
she is a fine candidate if you think that this is the time for timidity, and you think that the fat cats need more congressmen on their side.

[MrBenchley]

90. Duckworth is a fine candidate

And if you think a helicopter pilot represents timidity, it explains why your posts are so flatulent....

[LincolnMcGrath]

52. He just got served.

Trying to put forth quarterly reports he got away with posting a few months ago. :rofl:

[mopinko]

62. no, but, see, it has numbers

that makes it a fact, see. you don't even have to compare it to anything, just repeat it often, and insist that it is bad. see how that works. if you really must, compare it to other, random, irrelevant numbers. then it is really, really looks like a fact, see?
btw, what's that smell?

[LincolnMcGrath]

68. The Silence is Deafening, Eh?

The Odor, on the other hand....

[mopinko]

74. aaaahhhhhh! crickets!

don't ya just love the sound of crickets lincoln?

hey, i am going to be out that way in early april. any quad city du'ers want to have a drink?

[MrBenchley]

45. If you are interested....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=2314643#2316167

[LincolnMcGrath]

48. Three equals several in your world?

LOL You have more ANTI DLC posts than that.


I guess you figure no DUers will notice they are QUARTERLY reports.

[MrBenchley]

49. When I care what you have to say, I'll let you know

[LincolnMcGrath]

51. "and the expenditures for 2005"

Report Type = OCT QUARTERLY

It must hurt to get tripped up so often. I'll give you a hug if you need one.

[MrBenchley]

53. Yes, when I said a few months ago I meant a few months ago

You seem utterly unable to comprehend what is written. How sad for you.

Did you have a point, or are you just desperate for attention?

[LincolnMcGrath]

54. Nice try Benchley. Anyone can see you are busted.

:hug: Have a hug.

[mopinko]

58. no expenditures, because they had no

campaign, maybe? i guess you are a better candidate if you just sit on your money, and don't actually campaign. hmmm.

[LincolnMcGrath]

60. He also tried to imply they were 2005 yearly figures.

They were quarterly totals. lol

[mopinko]

80. just fyi, fundraising totals

christine has raised $100,000 more in this cycle, so far, than she did in the entire 2004 cycle. she has raised more than any dem challenger in that district, ever. she has gotten more and bigger small contributions this time around, it that makes sense. her average contribution has gone from $75 last time to $100-something this time. just like howard dean, she is setting records without tapping fat cats.
she will speak for me, for the people in the 6th, and for the activists in this party. period. i guess that is why the big guns are out for her. hope people figure out what that means.

[MrBenchley]

71. What a silly post...

What WAS there to campaign for in the summer of 2005? The primaries are this Spring and summer, and the election is November 2006.

Guess that's another fact...and guess all you had was a pooty....

[mopinko]

75. bean campaigned the whole 2 years, also

christine has been campaigning all along. that's because she knew the fat cats would not give her fat checks because they rightly realized that she would not be representing them. she has been out talking to people in the community. having coffees with ordinary citizens, in small groups, one or 2 a week, raising early money, and figuring out what people care about. what a fucking concept, eh? talk to ordinary voters, find out what your future bosses will want of you.
grassroots politics is like home cooked food. it takes time, but it smells better, and it is better for you.

[LincolnMcGrath]

55. Be sure to follow the links in reply #45

The quarterly reports make it clear (to those who can read them) how much money is spent during off years.

Pay close attention to the right hand column. (election cycle totals) :hi:

[Freddie Stubbs]

73. Except that Ms. Celegis is not a rookie

She ran in 2004.

[minvis]

56. What's a nonsensical expense?

Here's the itemized list of Cegelis' expenditures. Most are for fundraising consultants, fundraising expenses and salaries.

http://www.fecinfo.com/cgi-win/x_disb.exe?DoFn=H4IL060962006


Here's an incumbent Republican's expenditures itemized, in a suburban Chicago district, just like Cegelis'. Same thing, mostly fundraising expenses.

http://www.fecinfo.com/cgi-win/x_disb.exe?DoFn=H8IL130692006

Take a look at the list. What is she pissing away?

[LincolnMcGrath]

57. Thanks for the links

Don't hold your breath for anything other than an attack.

[minvis]

64. I know

I've run into him before on other threads. I thought some facts may help shut him up, temporarily that is.

[madfloridian]

65. Dream on.

Just dream on. Thanks for the links, BTW. :hi:

[MrBenchley]

72. LOL! So Cegelis spent three quarters of her dough on fundraising?

Good planning....NOT.

[minvis]

82. Wrong again

Add up the fundraising costs for each. Cegelis spent just under $45,000 on fundraising. Biggert spent over $70,000 on fundraising during this same period. That $70,000 spent in fundraising brought in $251,000 of non-PAC money. Cegelis' $45,000 brought in $228,000 of non-PAC money. Which was better spent?

[MrBenchley]

84. Hard to believe you're having such troub;e figuring this out.....

"Cegelis' $45,000 brought in $228,000 of non-PAC money"
Of which she's pissed away all but $39,000, with both the primary AND the general election still to go. She only has $39,000 left as cash on hand.

Biggert has $532,000-plus in cash on hand.

http://query.nictusa.com/cgi-bin/dcdev/forms/C00330241/197643/

"Which was better spent?"
Clearly, Biggert...since she didn't spend three quarters of what she got before the election started.

As Archpundit says, "Giving money to Cegelis is like investing in arm floaties before a trip on the Titanic."

[minvis]

86. Also look at cash on hand at the beginning of the reporting period

Biggert has $512,000 on hand before this reporting period so she gained $20,000 more during this latest reporting period. Cegelis has $3,000 on hand before this reporting period and she gained over $35,000 on hand during this reporting period.

[MrBenchley]

87. So Cegelis pisses away almost all of her cash as she gets it

and this by you is the sign of a good strong candidate?

Hoo boy!

[madfloridian]

91. You insulted Cegelis, totally ignored the facts given you.

.

[MrBenchley]

92. Cegelis pissed away three quarters of her dough on nothing

and now has just $39,000 left. Don't cry to me because you want to pretend those aren't facts.

[Hippo_Tron]

96. Don't worry, Benchley ignores facts quite often

This is the guy that claims Bernie Sanders is of no help to us because he doesn't have a D next to his name despite the fact that he caucuses with the Dems and is endorsed by the DSCC and the DNC.

[radio4progressives]

66. Emily's List doesn't share the pot equally?

:shrug: I was always under the impression that they did..

i'm sorry that to see that I was wrong about that..

[MasonJar]

10. I am very sorry but your premise is certainly erroneous. Emily's

List is big supporter of pro-choice women; they spent a lot of money in 04 on grassroots campaign by joining with other groups to promote local, state and national candidates.

[mopinko]

11. i wonder which version of her opinion on choice she gave emily

she has represented her position on choice in several ways, none of the were- i support a woman's right to control her own body, period. in a candidate forum on wbez the other day, she said she supported parental notification laws as long as there was a mechanism for bypass in cases of abuse, neglect and "non-traditional families". other times she tries to sound unequivocally pro-choice.
other people have referred to her as the candidate of the dlc. this is technically not true. however, her positions and issues are absolutely those of the muddle of the road, monied wing of the party. she is astroturf. cegelis is the candidate of the grassroots that are growing in that district. you can argue about who will win in november, but you cannot argue about who these candidates will represent.

[LincolnMcGrath]

18. 3 cheers for the primary system.

:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

[oneold1-4u]

20. Stand by the NEW whoever they are

The OLD still walks the same OLD line of appeasing only the typical political agendas. Most of those are simply "money for money" and the same OLD thing that has accumulated for over 50 years.
I have to consider anyone who is brave enough to step into this quagmire and wish take on the OLD, as a good chance for change.

[Ciggies and coffee]

47. Just say the bean-counters endorse her

That's who created a list with some gal's name. Just to launder corporate money so they can hedge their bets.

[ISUGRADIA]

67. Don't parrot the right wing attack on Emily's list

"created a list with some gal's name."
That's rather condesending towards women. EL was set up by women to assist pro-choice Democratic women be competative in races.

"Just to launder corporate money"
Cheap shot. Look at who actually contributes to EL and try again.

[mopinko]

78. that gal emily-

Early Money Is Like Yeast, it makes the dough rise.

this one seems to be orchestrated by the fat cats, tho. especially since duckworth has waffled on choice, while christine stands firm, with a bright line policy. maybe all they know about her is what she put on the questionaire. i dunno. :shrug:
guess they don't ask on there- who's your daddy?