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staticstopper Donating Member (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 10:08 PM
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Please, I need feedback.
Edited on Fri Feb-24-06 10:53 PM by staticstopper
Tell me what you think.


New Temporary Political Party

Here is the platform:

To bring to a stop all social wedge issues that currently distract the American people. No pro or con legislation written nor debated by our national Senators and Reps. (if they would bother, it would be nice to quickly make it illegal to spy without notice) and insist that they work to accomplish the following two goals.

The Two Goals

We must, on a national level, fix 2 huge problems, 1) protecting our lands and atmosphere as much as possible and implement a non-military system to rescue victims of further hurricanes, large violent attacks and contagions, 2) stop the deaths of our soldiers, contract workers, and the deaths of so-called “collateral damage victims” by badly planned foreign policy.

Social wedge issues are now used, (wittingly or unwittingly), by certain powerful people in both major parties to keep their jobs in politics alive or from a learned misguided cart before the horse thing...while America withers. I do not judge their deeper motives.

If they keep doing all this busy work, using America's concerns to hack away at each other's branches, our sword of liberty will continue to dull.

This MUST stop. The existing laws are enough to protect human safety when implemented fairly.

We will not seek to undermine any party, like Republican, Democrat, Green, Independent nor Libertarian.

This new temporary party will work to bring the average people of both (or all) party affiliations together to stop this ongoing madness.

If this work gets done than we will begin to move outward to other issues. And there will be a natural absorption back into the 2 major party system and each will regain their once respectable standing.

And if these two issues are not dealt with post-haste then I believe there is not much hope for a conservative or liberal to sway opinions on any domestic issues. America will be a shadow of its former self.

We will not take donations or monies of any kind. If we cannot do this without a budget, our freedoms may already be gone.




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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 10:10 PM
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1. my DH swears we need a Middle of the Road party for the 60-70 %
of the country who are scared by the "radicals" of both sides
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mongo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 10:47 PM
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2. I can get behind that.
As much as the dominionists scare the shit out of me, I am often speechless at some of the comments here on DU
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staticstopper Donating Member (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 10:59 PM
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5. Cool
Thanks.

Ya, me too. Are we being rilied up just to keep us from what matters most?

I don't think we need to label this anything, like a grassroots movement, or Thrid Party - call it nothing but getting a hold of this maddness by the horns and saying STOP!.
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staticstopper Donating Member (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 10:51 PM
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4. Thanks
We cannot do this alone.

not all conservative hate us.

'they' just stir us up into feeling that.

We all are Americans.

We have to start somewhere.
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 10:50 PM
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3. We need Instant Runoff Voting first
Nothing but the two party system will work until we get some variation of Instant Runoff Voting. Until then, a third party will just syphone off votes from the party to which it is most closely aligned.

http://www.instantrunoff.com/
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staticstopper Donating Member (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 11:00 PM
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6. I'll look
Thanks, sounds like something to do.

Canada and Israel have it, right?
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 12:23 AM
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8. A lot of countries use it
I know it works well in Australia.

Here's another article about it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instant-runoff_voting

and my favorite variation:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condorcet_method
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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-24-06 11:28 PM
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7. Shared co-endorsements are a good temporary solution...

...where IRV is too much of a leap.

In NY they allow for a minor party to endorse a major party candidate. For example, In 2004 NYers could have voted for Kerry on the "Workers Party" party ballot line. That way the minor parties can run a candidate here and a candidate there in local elections but still be counted when their members decide to vote for a major party candidate. Not having this feature is frankly just a way to suppress minor parties.
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