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mikeanike Donating Member (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 05:29 PM
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Uh so what are the differences between the DNC and the DLC?
I'm new to this site and I have been seeing some vocal sparring concerning these two groups. So which one is better and why?
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 05:31 PM
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1. Brother you don't know...
What a hornets nest you may have just stirred....watch out and grab some popcorn!!!
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mikeanike Donating Member (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 05:33 PM
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2. actually that was the point!
In the wake of all the dead I'll at least get some very valuble info!
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 05:36 PM
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3. This is a classic problem, it can be solved by using google.
It was created in large part deliberately, when the DLC good old boy's club was created and presumed to call themselves the Democratic Leadership.

I can't get into it in a fair and balanced way. I recommend you google for yourself.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 05:40 PM
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4. Simple
The DNC is the Democratic National Committee, the group that is supposed to run the party between conventions. It contains members from all fifty state parties and other affiliated groups. It is an official group of the Democratic Party.

The DLC is the Democratic Leadership Council, a group which seeks to influence the party... not an official party body. Depending on who you listen to, they are either the blessed legacy of Saint Bill Clinton, neocon spawn of Satan, or possibly something in between.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 05:41 PM
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5. the blessed legacy of Saint Bill Clinton ... I like that.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 05:43 PM
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6. The DNC is the Democratic party leadership...
Edited on Tue Feb-28-06 05:43 PM by SteppingRazor
The DLC is a think tank and fundraising organization connected only unofficially to the Democratic Party
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 05:46 PM
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7. DNC = part of Democratic Party DLC = some kind of rotary club type think
Edited on Tue Feb-28-06 05:47 PM by emulatorloo
tank
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 05:48 PM
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8. the DLC are republicans in demo-camo-gear
Dino-lite even - think Lieberman.

People who vote for globalization and corporation over common citizen.

Think fiscal conservatism and 100% pro-business with a tiny sprinkle of social liberalism (VERY TINY) to make it more palatable.


think every worthless, spineless dem on capital hill - that's the DLC
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 05:50 PM
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9. The DLC are pre-McGovern -style Democrats
Edited on Tue Feb-28-06 05:53 PM by wyldwolf
...on issues of economics and foreign policy. Think the only Democratic president to be elected twice since Roosevelt - Bill Clinton.

Think John Kerry
Max Cleland
Al Gore
John Edwards
Mark Warner
Tim Kaine
Elliot Spitzer.

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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:11 PM
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11. Here read up on the topic.
Edited on Tue Feb-28-06 06:12 PM by acmejack
Here is why they say they are good: http://www.dlc.org/

here is why "some" say they are not:Harley Sorenson at Common Dreams:http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0105-07.htm

Kos: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/8/22/41845/1251

TPM Cafe: http://www.tpmcafe.com/story/2005/7/25/115041/831

on edit: DLC guys like to make smoke, be careful what you believe.



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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:52 PM
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12. LOL! You're telling ME to read up on the topic?
Why don't you:

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/070061009X.01._BO2,204,203,200_PIlitb-dp-500-arrow,TopRight,32,-59_AA240_SH20_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/070061009X/qid=1141169896/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/102-1560530-3074569?s=books&v=glance&n=283155



http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0375414576/qid=1141170024/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/102-1560530-3074569?s=books&v=glance&n=283155

(Contains a very good description of the DLC by Clinton)



http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0813123925/qid=1141170153/sr=1-3/ref=sr_1_3/102-1560530-3074569?s=books&v=glance&n=283155



http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?z=y&isbn=0842023941&TXT=Y&itm=5

(Two books to better understand the driving Democratic party foreign policy positions from Wilson to Clinton, and a driving force behind the DLC's foreign policy approach.)



http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?z=y&isbn=1400050243&TXT=Y&itm=1

Contains several excellent chapters on the presidencies of Harry Truman, Jimmy Carter, John Kennedy, and Bill Clinton that details their policies and, in the case of the first three, how they were forerunners to much of what the DLC proposes today)

DLC guys like to make smoke, be careful what you believe.

Far lefties have a skewed and limited knowledge of party history. be careful what you believe.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:57 PM
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14. The OP, you're obviously too far gone!
Edited on Tue Feb-28-06 07:02 PM by acmejack
Seek treatment! Perhaps electroshock therapy can cure you I really hope a lobotomy is not necessary.

on edit: of course I would not presume to tell YOU anything, excuse me if I gave YOU that impression. I forgot all DLC types were all knowing. I beg YOUR indulgence.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 07:01 PM
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15. Right
:dem:
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 05:58 PM
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10. The DNC is the party. The DLC is a club that issues position papers
The Democratic party operates like a republic. DNC members are chosen at the state level.

Each state decides how to choose DNC reps in their own way. This is the way it works in Florida:

Each precinct elects one man and one woman to represent the precinct at the county party level. In Florida, they are called "precinct committeemen and -women" and are elected every four years in the Democratic primary. There are also several at large positions appointed by the county chair (who is elected by the precinct people).

Each county's precinct committeepeople elect one man and one woman (called State Committeemen and -women) to represent the county at the state level. There are also at large positions appointed by the state chair (who is elected by the state committee people in a weighted vote).

The state committeepeople vote for a set of people to represent Florida at the national level -- that is, to be members of the DNC. Democratic officials at the Federal level (congressional reps and senators) are also members of the DNC.

All the DNC people vote on the party chair (Howard Dean).
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:57 PM
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13. About 1 letter..........M.
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