Let me see if I understand this…

[KansDem]

In 1995, American terrorist Timothy McVeigh bombs the Alfred P. Murrah Building and kills 168 people, including 19 children. In the years ensuing, the Neo-con fascists take control of all three branches of the US government.

Anti-abortion activists have terrorized dozens of clinics and killed and injured doctors and clinic workers. “Roe v Wade” is now threatened to be overturned by the GOP Supreme Court.

UAE has a close relationship with terrorism: its banking system was used to finance 9/11 (in which over 3,000 Americans were murdered), two of the 9/11 attackers were UAE citizens, and its royal family hob-nobs with Osama bin Laden. Yet, today UAE corporation Dubai Ports is now poised to take over control of 21 US ports in a multi-billion dollar deal.

Hey, you think terrorism really does work? :crazy:

edited to add statistic

[Horse with no Name]

1. Anyone who says crime doesn't pay

Needs only to look at our administration.
Yes it does pay. Very handsomely.

[unblock]

3. of course crime pays. that's the reason people do it.

it's this damn conscience that keeps the urge in check.

for those of us who have a conscience, that is....

[onehandle]

2. Timothy McVeigh, Registered Republican, NRA member.

I just Have to bring up these facts when McVeigh's name is mentioned.

[Village Idiot]

4. Don't forget decorated Gulf War Army Veteran.

from Wikipedia:

"McVeigh was a decorated veteran of the United States Army, having served in the Gulf War, where he was awarded a Bronze Star Medal. He had been a top scoring gunner with the 25 mm cannon of the lightly armored Bradley Fighting Vehicles used by the U.S. 1st Infantry Division to which he was assigned. He served at Fort Riley, Kansas, before Operation Desert Storm. His superiors and friends thought of him as a model soldier."

[noonwitch]

8. I still wonder what happened to McVeigh during the Gulf War

I have always been opposed to the death penalty for a lot of reasons, but in this case, there are so many unanswered questions. Was he exposed to the same chemicals that so many who served in that war were? Could they have affected his mental health? Was he missing over there at any time during his service?

Mainly, though, I have the chemical question. So many soldiers came home from that war with serious medical problems, some of which were passed on genetically to their children.

[Village Idiot]

9. He apparently applied for the Special Forces...

but got turned down TWICE. He then left the army, quite angry and discouraged.

You think maybe he had an axe to grind?

[tabasco]

10. McVeigh was a total chickenshit.

He went for Army Special Forces and did not make it through the selection course.

That's what turned him against the big bad federal government.

Up until that event, he was gladly serving the federal government.

But McVeigh was such a chickenshit, he let this failure ruin his entire life.

He hated the federal governement because the Army rejected him for SF.

[Greyhound]

5. You do understand, perfectly.

[staticstopper]

6. Man, just think

where our country could be right now if the FDR trend could have kept up the momentum.

If JFK, MLK, and RFK had not been killed.

I'm going to read up on the anti-war movement before and during WWII.

I was shocked watching "The Best Years of Our Lives" that there even was one.

I'm thinking that for every social justice movement, capitalistic forces seem to demand and get a war for every step in the right direction.

For example, the New Deal during the Depression lead into WWII, or LBJ doing the right thing with the Civil Rights Movement, then Viet Nam gets escalated)

[RagingInMiami]

7. I don't know if terrorism works

But democracy obviously has failed in this country.