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msgadget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 03:55 PM
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DEANIACS: Is it time for him to run?
Democrats seem to treat him as bad as the republicans, who call him 'the gift who keeps on giving' based, I think, on the reactions of the democrats in office. Is it time to get behind HIM instead of flat-footed democratic 'leaders'. However he arrived at the position, he was anti-war and he's more moderate than liberal so...
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 03:56 PM
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1. Once again he said in 2004 he won't run in 2008 if
he got the DNC chairmanship job.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 03:57 PM
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2. I think he's doing a great job where he is.
I was a big Dean supporter during his Presidential bid, but I think we're better off with him running the DNC.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:14 PM
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15. He is doing a great job
I love how he handles the media and his plan for elections.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:20 PM
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16. I like how he's sticking to his "50 State" promise.
...even though it's driving Dem "leadership" nuts.

:)
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 03:57 PM
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3. I am only going to support more Liberal than Moderate candidates
The only things in the middle of the road are paint stripes and dead armadillos.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:00 PM
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6. I'm going to support any Dem on my general election ballot
That's how we win.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 03:58 PM
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4. I'm a bad one to ask...
I thought it was time in 2004. :-( Of COURSE I think he should run. But I have no idea if other Dems would vote for him... their dislike of him is incomprehensible to me.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 03:59 PM
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5. No, he cannot run--the party chairman does not take up his own banner
He made the pledge, and he will keep to it. He is quietly doing more to solidify the party through his quiet grassroots work than I think people realize. He's getting people to work together, to network, and he is raising cash in steady fashion. That's his job--not to advance his personal agenda, or advocate one over the other in primary races, but to push primary victors to victory in general elections.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:01 PM
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7. Dean said he won't run in '08. Hopefully, Gore can carry the banner.
If he had not won the DNC chair, it would be a different story, but it's not.

I would support Gore in place of Dean.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:09 PM
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11. Gore has also said he won't run in '08...
...just sayin'....
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:27 PM
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17. the difference is Dean holding prominent party position, Gore is not
Gore is a private citizen, and he is free to change his mind for 2008.

there's plenty of time, and it's fair to allow him to see how the mid-terms turn out. On the other, the disaster the next president is going to inheret is tragic and going to be a nightmare to fix unless there is a democratic congress - then people are going to complain that we have a one party rule of government again.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:32 PM
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19. Agreed, Dean holds a Party position.
They're both "private citizens" however.

I'm not advocating that Dean run, I'm just pointing out that BOTH men have said that they're not running in 2008 and maybe we'd be better served looking for a candidate who WILL actually run.
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Cerebral_Assassin Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:03 PM
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8. Dean...
I think Dean lacks the polish to be the candidate. He's much better as a Party Chairman. That being said, he'd still be a better president than the Chimp-in-Chief.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:12 PM
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12. Welcome to DU
:hi:

Re: polish, he's way to honest to be a candidate. :evilgrin: I think in his current position, he's able to say things he couldn't as a candidate. IMHO, it was his appearance with Blitzer that got the CM to get off the "Abramoff is a bipartisan scandal" meme.
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:44 PM
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22. And remember how outspoken Dean was about Iraq and
everthing he said is coming true. The Repugs hate his guts because of this.
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msgadget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:05 PM
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9. Good, thoughtful answers! But, isn't it frustrating?
And, doesn't it seem they gave him the position to...I don't know, get him out of the way so they could highlight the party a certain way? What's with these leaks and with them distancing themselves from his statements and his strategy of working the south? Damned strange to me...
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:09 PM
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10. I adore the man
But I think he's in the right spot, at least for now. When he runs, he's the issue, rather than Bush's crimes. Besides, he's doing a great job running the DNC.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:13 PM
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13. Republicans are idiots - I don't care what they say. Dean is good for DNC
EOM
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:14 PM
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14. As a disappointed Wisconsin Dean supporter...I can't support him
This is my opinion and I respect your right to have something different.

It is my feeling Dean used us for the sole purpose of trying to raise money to get his campaign out of debt rather than running to win the primary in this state. I sit in THE major TV market of Wisconsin and I can say the hundreds and hundreds of dollars contributed by hundreds and hundreds of my fellow cheeseheads were NEVER spent on a media effort in Wisconsin.

Blame it on his local staff which was largely a bunch of confused and inexperienced 20 somethings, or his national staff and campaign advisors, if you wish, but he broke his promise with his supporters in this state. He really never made the last stand in Wisconsin he promised.

As a Wisconsin democrat, I understand that sort of thing happens. But, I can't support hollow promises, either.

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msgadget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:32 PM
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20. No worries, I'm not a Deaniac. Thank you for that insight
I've been disappointed with the DFA and, frankly, have found him to be MIA in his position. HOWEVER, I'm more frustrated by what I see in democratic 'leadership' - the hesitation, in-fighting... DeLay is a criminal and nobody's backing away from him, know what I mean? Frist is threatening something many of them don't agree with... Could they at least PRETEND to support each other?
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cindyw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:28 PM
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18. How about doing his job. I don't think a thing can be said for him until
we see how he does in 2006. He needs to follow through with his promises to overhaul the party and take America back. Then we can talk.
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msgadget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:34 PM
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21. Good answer, his profile has been very low
and I wonder if that's because he's traveling a lot, because the leadership wants it that way or if there's another reason.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 05:09 PM
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23. He still speaks for me.
Whether he runs or not, I'd still support him
for continuing to tell the truth whether it costs
him or not.
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 05:28 PM
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24. I'd vote for him, and I'm basically a Clarkie. I will not vote for
Hillary, Lieberman, etc.
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lojasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 06:05 PM
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25. No. As much as I would love to see him elected
He said he won't run, and I think he should (and will) keep his word.

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