Dean's offensive Botox comments

[kerryistheanswer]

CNN just showed Dean making some snide Botox comments. He was talking about Willie Nelson and teasing whether he also got Botox treatment. Then he starts laughing and gives that awful Dubya-like smirk and says, "I didn't say who the other person who got Botox is".

This guy is sick and desperate. He's going to bring the Democratic party down with his schoolyard temper and demeanor. While all the candidates have attacked Dean in the past, neither has done so based on tabloid right-wing crap.

Sometimes, I really hate Dean.

[maddezmom]

1. glad I'm watching the BBC

comments like that are beneath all the candidates. :(

[djg21]

51. Over the top!

I personally think Dean's comments re: Kerry these past few days have been over the top. While calling Kerry a Republican, commenting on his botox, and his criticisms re: special interests may play well to his supporters, they turn many, like me, off.

That, coupled with what I perceive as an inability to prove his fiscal responsibility with his campaign funds and manage his burn rate, has made me reconsider my support for him as a candidate. I am no longer confident that he is ready for prime time.

[Eloriel]

69. No, a candidate botoxing is over the top

And it's damn sure fair game afterwards.

Go, Dean! Expose the narcissistic chameleon for what he is.

[Red State Rebel]

82. You are right...

If Kerry didn't want to have to deal with this, he shouldn't have done it. I don't care how much he denies it, if you look at the pictures, there is absolutely no way anyone can deny it.

[TLM]

98. Exactly.... this is such hypocrisy...

They threw everything at Dean but the kitchen sink... but now that Kerry gets a taste of it, suddenly that's unfair?


If Kerry had any more botulism toxin injected into his face, the UN would want to inspect his head for WMDs... but nobody's allowed to mention it?

[adadem]

2. I know exactly

what you mean. Someone here on DU posted that Dean reminds him (or her) of Eddie Haskell from Leave it to Beaver...to me that was the closest comparison in personality. The more desperate he gets the more obnoxious he seems to me.

[molly]

66. WOW what a right-on analogy - Eddie Haskell!

:yourock:

[CWebster]

3. Didn't see that

but I did see Kerry posing in front of Dean's signs with a smirk on his face and his finger pointing down.

Don't think my heart is going to bleed for Kerry now after all the shit he has pulled to discredit Dean. If Kerry is going to play dirty, he shouldn't be surprised when it comes back around to hit him in the....face.

[liberalnurse]

9. Dean didn't say anything that wasn't said before.

Kerry needs that new face "slapped" about, make him look a little less artificial. Don't worry, this is common campaign antics....

[kerry-is-my-prez]

41. Common campaign antics when running for class President in grade school

n/t

[mzmolly]

90. Funny how the news didn't broadcast that *Presidential moment*

of Mr. Kerry's ey? If that were Dean, we'd still be hearing about it.

Rupert Murdoch is choosing Bush's opposition. ahhhh, makes ya feel good now don't it! ;)

[Atlant]

4. And look how far the Democrats have to fall!

> He's going to bring the Democratic party down with his
> schoolyard temper and demeanor.

And look how far the Democrats have to fall! As I recall,
they have:

• Lost the Presidency
  
  
• Lost the House
  
  
• Lost the Senate
  
  
• Lost the Supreme Court
  
  
• Lost most of the Governor's chairs
  
  
• Lost most of the state houses

I'm not sure I'd worry about whether or not Dr. Dean is
going to "bring the Democratic party down"; they seem
to have done a fine job themselves before he arrived on
the national scene.


> Sometimes, I really hate Dean.

This statement actually goes a long ways towards explaining
the demise of the Democratic Party. Dr. Dean was one of the
VERY FEW candidate speaking out against G.W.Bush, the
Republicans, and the media consolidation, and you, by your
own words, hate him.

Atlant

[Forkboy]

5. Report to your nearest loyalty oath thread

for the proper public flogging you so richly deserve for pointing out the obvious :)

[liberalnurse]

10. Superbly stated!

You always bring the truth out in such clear and present terms.

:yourock:

[Atlant]

13. Thank you. (NT)

[Democat]

14. The Republicans win because they are united

Some Dean supporters are an example of the Nader-like behaviour that leads to Democratic losses.

The right rallies behind the candidate who they believe can win, whether he is perfect or not.

Look at Arnold's win in California. He was anything but a conservative on most issues, but they wanted to win. They wanted Davis out of office, like we want Bush out of office. They were not idealistic, they were realistic. And they won.

Nader 2000 and some Dean 2004 worshippers are willing to help elect Bush so that they can have their happy dream world. Meanwhile, tens of thousands of people die in Iraq as a result.

Go look at the DU poll where 30% say they won't vote for certain candidates if they are nominated.

That's why we lose.

[Forkboy]

16. Why do 30% of the people have a problem with Kerry?

Ten of thousands of people in Iraq are ALREADY dying,thank you very much.And Kerry is partly responsible.The only dream world is the one Kerry supporters live in,where his vote really didn't mean anything,and where thousands are dead from Dean supporters not licking Kerry's ass.

[sangh0]

40. Why does 70% have a problem with Dean?

Dean's unfavorables are much higher than Kerry's.

Ten of thousands of people in Iraq are ALREADY dying,thank you very much.And Kerry is partly responsible

Keep giving Bush* a pass, like the other party

[Forkboy]

54. I didn't ask about Dean

I dont like him either so using him as a defense of kerry is pointless.

I'm not giving Bush a pass...but I'm not giving Kerry one either.

I can walk and chew gum at the same time to!

[KaraokeKarlton]

28. Perhaps if the DLC and Party leaders didn't try to stop Dean

You might not see Dean supporters feeling no loyalty whatsoever to the DLC and Party leadership.

[CWebster]

36. bingo

and then they demand loyalty and whine when Kerry is simply handed the crown.

You know, you are either with us or against us.

[sangh0]

75. DLC and party leaders like Al Gore?

Yeah, that endorsement from Gore (a founding member, and party leader) was an obvious sign of the party's leadership hostility

[TLM]

102. LOL! What leads to Democratic losses...

Is the fact the party keeps trying to lean right and nominate candidates who are afraid to fight. Candidates like Kerry who sit ont he fence and try to play both sides of any issue.

If the dems want to nominate someone who voted for the IWR, the patriot act, the no child left behind act, 350 billion in tax cuts, and who attacked Dean for suggesting we get the UN behind any action in Iraq... the party will continue to lose support from the base they have abandoned.

And if the choice is between 4 more years of bush and 4 years of a Bush supporter... we lose no matter who wins.

[incapsulated]

6. Nasty? Yes. Effective? Maybe...

Dean has been hammering Kerry on the special interests accusation.

Guess what issue I've seen about Kerry all over the primary coverage this morning?

[EXE619K]

7. Bringing down the Democratic Party?

First of all, it was Kerry's decision to use Botox(or other facial modification procedure). Now, every national news outlets are making "fun" of this issue and Kerry is supposed to be "our party leader"? Talk about "bring down the Democratic party"!

The use of Botox and other facial "uplifts" are truly reserved for the Desperate.....Thank you Senator Kerry, for making the Democratic party look so "genuine".

[ima_sinnic]

8. I am biting my tongue to keep from saying what I really think of Kerry

. . . your "hero"

Dr. Dean has been our best shot at restoring control of the government to the people. With Kerry in the lead I've pretty much lost all interest in this election--more of the same old same old, *yawn*

[MaineDem]

11. I thought it was "smarmy"

The one thing I really don't like about Dean - and I've tried to be objective over the months - is his smirkiness. It's one of the things I've criticized about Bush, too. Gov Dean appears to be snide a little too often.

[Democat]

12. Many Dean supporters need to wake up and look at what he's doing!

Everyone who thinks Dean is starting to become a detriment to the Democratic party and helping Bush is not a Kerry supporter.

Every time there is a post on DU by anyone pointing out Dean's downward spiral and increasing attacks on the very people trying to get rid of Bush, some Dean supporter jumps in and calls that person a Kerry supporter.

There is no reason Dean should ever be using bullshit right wing talking points about Botox. I don't care if you support Dean, Kerry, Lieberman, or LaRouche, you should be able to see that Dean is getting desperate and he's not helping himself or anyone else except Bush with this stupidity.

[alexwcovington]

15. How low can you blow?

Oh, so it's fine to make baseless accusations of being "angry," but when you start talking about other aspects of people's image, that's off limits?

[CWebster]

17. Why should I want to help Kerry?

I didn't hear any whining when he spent his entire campaign attacking Dean. We know that Dean will keep fighting. And Kerry?--He hasn't been tested yet--but watch out, Kerry has been known to cave more often than stand up. And after how he shat on Dean and had the media masters assasinate Dean, don't think for a moment I will be rallying in Kerry's defense when the water starts to get rough and the new look starts to sag again.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

42. Kerry had the media masters assasinate Dean? LOL!

n/t

[CWebster]

84. Yep

don't know how often i have to post the link to Kerry's little pre-Iowa pow-wow:

"There are but a few weeks to go before the Iowa caucuses and the New Hampshire primary. Time has grown short. In an effort to galvanize the message Kerry wants to deliver in the time remaining, he convened a powerful roster of journalists and columnists in the New York City apartment of Al Franken last Thursday. The gathering could not properly be called a meeting or a luncheon. It was a trial. The journalists served as prosecuting attorneys, jury and judge. The crowd I joined in Franken’s living room was comprised of:
Al Franken and his wife Franni;
Rick Hertzberg, senior editor for the New Yorker;
David Remnick, editor for the New Yorker;
Jim Kelly, managing editor for Time Magazine;
Howard Fineman, chief political correspondent for Newsweek;
Jeff Greenfield, senior correspondent and analyst for CNN;
Frank Rich, columnist for the New York Times;
Eric Alterman, author and columnist for MSNBC and the Nation;
Art Spiegelman, Pulitzer Prize winning cartoonist/author of ‘Maus’;
Richard Cohen, columnist for the Washington Post;
Fred Kaplan, columnist for Slate;
Jacob Weisberg, editor of Slate and author;
Jonathan Alter, senior editor and columnist for Newsweek;
Philip Gourevitch, columnist for the New Yorker;
Calvin Trillin, freelance writer and author;
Edward Jay Epstein, investigative reporter and author;
Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., who needs no introduction."

http://truthout.org/docs_03/121003A.shtml

All together in one room. Imagine that. nothing like the insider advantage, no wonder Dean got himself a media man.

[Eloriel]

73. bullshit right wing talking points about Botox ??? ROTFLMAO

You're kidding, right?

LOL. If I had to point out one "product" that exemplifies everything WRONG with this country-- this superficial, vain, narcissistic culture -- Botox would be right up there near the top of my list.

FWIW, I've never heard any "rightwing talking points about botox." Pray tell, what are they?

In fact, I think the media are being amazingly quiet about botox. There are certainly not clips being played 900+ times like Dean's Iowa speech.

Bullshit rightwing talking points about Botox. I love it.

[isbister]

18. Its kind of sad

and does look desperate. The corporate media will eat it up though.

[zulchzulu]

19. I can't wait to see Dean cry when he drops out

That will be his legacy.

It should be pretty soon, based on his desperate, pathetic behavior and his campaign falling apart at the seams.

[Forkboy]

21. It's like the Kerry supporters

weeping how every attack is so unfair :nopity:

[zulchzulu]

24. Dean's attacks are immature, distasteful lies

If it makes you proud to see someone like Dean turn into a pathetic pontificater, then that's a shame.

[Forkboy]

26. I dont like Dean either

just humored by the flaming hypocrisy of some Kerry supporters.

And I'm glad that no one on DU would ever stoop so low as to post "immature, distasteful lies" that seem to trouble you so.

[GalleryGod]

31. Like the Paper Empire of Televangelist Jim Bakker !?

One Big Shell Game !

Like Burt Lancaster in the classic, "Elmer Gantry"

Say, "G'nite, H'ard! "
Dandy Don Meredith to that OTHER Howard, Cosell.


:silly:

[Hawkeye-X]

62. Don't count on it.

Kerry will drop out in the end of March.

[seaglass]

20. One of the problems with Dean is that he is an

equal-opportunity basher, he doesn't really care who he bashes as long as what he says is controversial enough to get him media attention.

He is starting to become an annoying little gnat.

I like Dean's message when he goes after Bush, I don't like his message when he goes after Democrats in Congress or his opponents (although I realize he needs to go after his opponents). When does he go after the Republicans in Congress, is his ire only directed at the Dems and Bush?

Of course, I never liked when people on this site went after people in congress, whether it was Daschle or Pelosi or Lieberman because they didn't like a particular vote.

So please understand this is a consistent attitude for me and one of the reasons I have a hard time with Dean.

[CWebster]

25. give us a break

Kerry is the master of dirty tricks. It is all he has. That and the media in his back pocket:

"There are but a few weeks to go before the Iowa caucuses and the New Hampshire primary. Time has grown short. In an effort to galvanize the message Kerry wants to deliver in the time remaining, he convened a powerful roster of journalists and columnists in the New York City apartment of Al Franken last Thursday. The gathering could not properly be called a meeting or a luncheon. It was a trial. The journalists served as prosecuting attorneys, jury and judge. The crowd I joined in Franken’s living room was comprised of:
Al Franken and his wife Franni;
Rick Hertzberg, senior editor for the New Yorker;
David Remnick, editor for the New Yorker;
Jim Kelly, managing editor for Time Magazine;
Howard Fineman, chief political correspondent for Newsweek;
Jeff Greenfield, senior correspondent and analyst for CNN;
Frank Rich, columnist for the New York Times;
Eric Alterman, author and columnist for MSNBC and the Nation;
Art Spiegelman, Pulitzer Prize winning cartoonist/author of ‘Maus’;
Richard Cohen, columnist for the Washington Post;
Fred Kaplan, columnist for Slate;
Jacob Weisberg, editor of Slate and author;
Jonathan Alter, senior editor and columnist for Newsweek;
Philip Gourevitch, columnist for the New Yorker;
Calvin Trillin, freelance writer and author;
Edward Jay Epstein, investigative reporter and author;
Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., who needs no introduction."

http://truthout.org/docs_03/121003A.shtml

Note the presence of Howard Fineman, author of one of the damning cover story pieces on Dean circulated just before Iowa - casting doubt on his electibility. A group of pundits, including Fineman, commenting on Dean's falling numbers going into Iowa, credited Fineman to his face for much of the damage---One of those moments the world tend to pass right by.

[seaglass]

29. Go out and do an analysis of everything said and

written about Dean and Kerry by these people, both before and after this meeting. Then come back to prove or disprove your point.

Include this in your analysis:

# of statements/articles positive about Dean before this meeting
# of statements/articles positive about Kerry before this meeting
# of statements/articles negative about Dean before this meeting
# of statements/Articles negative about Kerry before this meeting

and please do the same for after the meeting.

Then analyze negative and positive statement/articles about Kerry and Dean both before and after the meeting for people who did not attend.

Then control for negative and positive actions and statements by both of the candidates before and after this meeting.

When you're done I'll listen to what you have to say about this.

[CWebster]

38. The fix was in. nt

[seaglass]

55. I like to base my decisions on facts, sorry n/t

[CWebster]

86. don't know how much more evidence you need

other than a public declaration.

[GalleryGod]

33. Maybe,Just Maybe, it's the "New Dean" Coming to the Fore!?

What a "Genius" this Roy Neel is, Eh?

[NewYorkerfromMass]

22. I often can't believe Dean grew up on Manhattan's Park Avenue

maybe it was Park Avenue in Brooklyn.

[GalleryGod]

34. Giving the Neighborhood a bad name.

:nopity: :nopity: :hangover: :wtf: :silly:

[kerry-is-my-prez]

44. That's exactly what I was thinking when I heard him yesterday...

It's hard to believe isn't it?

[foo_bar]

63. Dean Street is covered with Dean4America signs

Can't say the same for Clark St.

[THUNDER HANDS]

23. like Dean is one to talk

Mr. Millionaire running around in $15 K-Mart dress shirts that are one size too small for him.

And he's one to criticize the looks of other candidates?

Have another pork chop there Dr. Dean.

[GalleryGod]

37. That was the Deliberate "Willie Lowman" look, M-Rat!

Nice pick-up on your part.:pals:

[KaraokeKarlton]

27. If I were running for president I'd rather be accused of getting Botox

Than have one of my fellow party members call me unfit to be president as Kerry said about Dean for merely stating the truth. Some thicker skin is in order.

[GalleryGod]

30. If "Courage" is defined as "Grace Under Pressure" Thus Dean= not so brave.

J.A.R.K.*


"Now, How-ARD! Look what you've gone and done !"
Sheriff Andy Taylor to Howard Sprague















*Just Another Rich Kid

[Forkboy]

35. Courage isn't defined by buying Bush's lies either

or was it duped? Wait,it was nuanced! No no no,it was just right!

[LuminousX]

32. Nice attempt at a hit piece

[Hep]

39. Sometimes you really hate dean

I had no idea...

[joshcryer]

43. "Sometimes, I really hate Dean."

Wow, really?

[LizW]

45. Smell the coffee

EVERYONE is snickering about the botox story. If Kerry doesn't like it, he should make a statement and say he didn't have it done. Or he did have it done, or whatever.

Yeah, it's a ridiculous thing to have to talk about and explain, but so was Dean's Iowa speech. Dean accepted ownership of his speech and the scream over and over and over and eventually ended up getting a fairer report (if not an apology) from ABC News. Kerry needs to own up to the botox (and the vanity it implies) and get it over with.

[JVS]

57. Preferably Kerry could send 2 letters one affirming and one denying Botox

[Forkboy]

58. ouch

good one

[Freddie Stubbs]

46. It is just a little humor

It is nothing like attacking his character or his polices.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

47. He is beginning to remind me of our neighborhood bully back in 5th

grade. Taunting and bullying people. I don't think that anybody running for President has ever been this immature.

[kskiska]

52. I remember Poppy Bush in '92

calling Clinton and Gore a couple of "Bozos." Take that! Then he said, "My dog Millie knows more about foreign policy than Bill Clinton." Oooooh!

[RetroLounge]

48. "He's going to bring the Democratic party down "

Down to where? How much farther can it go down, thanks to the Pink Tutu's that are there now?

What, are we gonna lose the election for Dog Catcher too?

[Eloriel]

78. They'll probably blame Dean when Kerry loses in Nov if he's

the nominee.

Kerry doesn't have a spine, and the spine transplant he got from Dean seems to be failing already. I can't imagine for the life of me why he lied about getting botox AND (2nd lie) about never having heard of botox. I mean you only have to take one look at him to see the EVIDENCE that he lied. Silly, silly move.

[saracat]

88. Whose lies are more important?

Interesting that no one finds lying about employing a major lobbyist important.In fact Dean has three on his staff but Botox, now there's a crime! And Clinton once paid $250 for a haircut,so what? I'd rather have a candidate who bothers to present himself properly than a schlemiel who runs around in cheap suits embarrassing us.And whats worse ,adopts the cheapness as an affectation ,much as Bush pretends not to own a tux.These boys have money and their backgrounds indicate a different mode of behavior.Dean and Bush are both phony populists. And Dean attacking Kerry as a Yale educated elitist is rich.Last I heard, Dean is from a wealthy "Republican" family(that's right, Republican!)and also went to Yale. His family has ties to the Bushes so he really doesn't have room to talk.

[ScreamingMeemie]

49. I was there, at the next table, and if CNN portrayed it that way

shame on them. It was a light moment, meant to be taken lightly...and "surprise surprise" distorted by the media once again. Yesterday was a great day to be a Democrat at that party, no matter who you support.


On edit: Did Willie look like he was using Botox? No. He looked like an anti-Botox ad which means the media could have chosen to portray that comment an entirely different way. Let's quit picking apart our candidates for the silly stuff. :hi:

[ScreamingMeemie]

56. And the correct quote is,"Is that Willie Nelson? It looks like he's been

using Botox too."

[LizW]

70. They just showed it on CNN

It was funny, and everyone in the room laughed. And I don't know what "smirk" they're talking about. Dean was on the phone and after he said it, he took a sip of his beverage and waggled his eyebrows the way he does.

I just about fell of my chair just now laughing at Paul Begala's and Robert Novak's outrage at Dean's comment. Begala was just all in a huff. He could barely contain himself. But what about yesterday on Chris Matthews' show when the whole panel was snickering at Tucker Carlson's botox joke?

Hypocrits.

[RetroLounge]

50. My Dear Sweet Kerry Supporters

Get over it...

:nopity::nopity::nopity::nopity::nopity::nopity:
:nopity::nopity::nopity::nopity::nopity::nopity:
:nopity::nopity::nopity::nopity::nopity::nopity:
:nopity::nopity::nopity::nopity::nopity::nopity:

[JI7]

53. kerryistheanswer, forget this crap

lets forget about this crap. i'm excited about eliot spitzer endorsing kerry. it's something all of us kerry supporters should be happy about.

[Upfront]

59. Kerry Deserves It

The robo calling of Dean backers at 3am and giving a so called Dean massage. This happened in Iowa, and the Kerry people blamed Gephart. Then the same thing happened in NH. Gephart is gone so that leaves Kerry. Feb 3rd we will find out who was behind the add, my money is on Kerry. I have said it before but If it comes down to B### and Kerry, I will vote for Kerry but it will be the worst vote I have ever cast. So far I can't find anything Dean has said about Kerry that wasn't true. Snide remarks don't name Kerry. Kerry needs to stand up and take off his pink tu tu. I do think the botox thing is silly, kind of like the scream. Kind of sad what we do to each other isn't it. Circle the firing squad, now fire!

[sangh0]

60. Dean is getting desperate

He has nothing to run on but anger, and that didn't work, so now it's Botox

[Eloriel]

79. And Kerry gave him the ammunition for the botox

It would be foolish not to use it.

I can't believe how many people are trying to defend this botox shit. It's shameless that a Presidential candidate is so focused on his "looks" that he would stoop to a ridiculous procedure like that. I find it absolutely appalling -- quite laughable, but real pitiful. Shame on Kerry for being so shallow as to do something like that. he deserves all the ridicule that comes his way and more.

[sangh0]

80. One problem - There's no Botox

Do you have a link?

[Eloriel]

83. Oh, I get it

You wanna play the "Who are you gonna believe, me or your lyin' eyes?" game.

Sorry. The before and after pix and esp. the frozen forehead speak for themselves.

Of course, you do have a point. It looks to me like the botox was on the forehead, but that there were fat and/or silicon injections elsewhere and probably the forehead too. Fat and silicon help fill in and plump up the face. Botox just paralyzes muscles.

[CWebster]

85. What did Kerry think?

We wouldn't notice? Not only botux, but check out his last appearance before Iowa--his eyes were so sunken, they were barely visable.

Buyer beware, it is a slicked up bill of goods.

[OKNancy]

61. Clarkistheanswer

LOL....I've got an idea.....vote Clark.
Not a Botoxer or a Botoxbasher.

[ACPS65]

64. Sad, really

.

[edzontar]

65. I think Dean was being gracious

Kerry has a new face---which may become a metaphor for his whole career.

[David Dunham]

67. Dean is Finished and Will win No States. Time for him to go.

[progressivebydesign]

68. Why is this thread not locked yet? "desperate and sick" You "hate" Dean?

"Sick and desperate"? That really makes me feel as though I want to consider the candidate you support. All threads and comments like that do is further alienate people that may have considered your candidate. How counterproductive.

[ibegurpard]

72. I would prefer this thread not be locked

The hypocrisy that it is showing is very illuminating.

[TopesJunkie]

71. Talk about hypocrisy! -- And not on the part of Dean --

Dean is compared to Dubya while being criticized for supposedly being snotty? Give me a break!

[Nashyra]

74. I saw it on CNN

There is no big deal he was having a good time with his supporters, sorry but Kerry is not inspiring to me at all. He was my first choice before Clark stepped into the ring but after listening to Clark and Dean with their "outsider" message my fear is that too many voters will stay home because they see Kerry as just another politician and meanwhile the Repukes will paint him as a northeastern liberal. I will vote for Kerry if I have too, but the power brokers that be are hedging their bet by propping up the establishment. I think that Clark, Dean, Edwards or Kerry could beat * and right now they should be crushing * and keeping the spotlite on the Dem primary for as long as possible. *'s numbers afre dropping so what is the hurry?

[ScreamingMeemie]

91. It was a lighthearted moment in real time. We had a good time

with Governor Dean and his football picks. :shrug: It is truly a shame that the media is picking apart the candidates for the silliest things. :hi:

[TopesJunkie]

93. Well, the Kerry camp appears a bit thin-skinned --

If you can't joke about Botox, what can you joke about?

[stickdog]

76. Making fun of Dean = good. Making fun of Kerry = bad. (nt)

[Name removed]

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[TopesJunkie]

99. It certainly feel that way --

Dean bashing threads are allowed to go on, while others are stopped immediately. Why is that?

[Hep]

89. Amen to that.

n/t

[ozone_man]

77. Vanity is a character issue

especially when you're evaluating candidates for president. What matters most to the leader of the free world? His face? For a Hollywood star it's not an issue, but for someone running for president it's an issue.

[kskiska]

81. Bob Dole had a facelift

immediately after losing to Bill Clinton.

[killbotfactory]

92. "What kind of muddled thinking is that?"

Nobody made Kerry get botox injections.

[candy331]

95. I have to agree with what Sharpton said yesterday on his bringing the

party down. The Senate is controlled by repubs, the house is controlled by repubs and the president is a repub and to top that off 29 of the 50 governors are repubs and you say Dean is going to bring the party down? "You make the call"

[burned]

94. Kerry will get hit bigtime

by the botox thing. Bushco is going to have before and after pics, medical records...all of it. Somehow his statement about not even knowing what it was will be compared to Clinton's bout with the word it or is. Whichever one it was.

He should have just said "yes I did." Then it would have been over and not ammo for later. And those wascally wabbits will pull it out for sure and brand him a Clinton sized liar so that the republicans that are sick of Bush don't cross over.

[TLM]

96. "Sometimes, I really hate Dean."

Sometimes?

[chocolateeater]

97. Is the kitchen getting too hot for you?

:evilgrin:

[mot78]

100. Dean better stop criticizing Kerry

Remember when Dean was being interviewed about whether or not he uses it...

Media whore: Governor, do you use botox?

Dean: Yeeeaaarrggghhh!!!!...WAIT..I mean NO...I meant NO

[Moderator]

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