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msgadget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 01:22 PM
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Donna Brazille:It's time to break with the same-old, same-old
Even SHE gets how important it is for democrats to stand together on this:


Don’t Ignore the Feingold Resolution. Embrace It
by Donna Brazille
Roll Call Contributing Writer
March 14, 2006


The progressive blogosphere is on fire right now. Web loggers are pumped up about the effort by Sen. Russ Feingold (D-Wis.) to censure President Bush for breaking the law on domestic surveillance and taking matters into his own hands. . . .

As a Beltway insider, I am convinced that we cannot continue to tell those who have loyally supported our Democratic leaders to wait. Wait for what? Wait until our pollsters give us the green light to speak up? Should we continue to wait, hoping that the Republicans will finally invite Democrats into the room when important decisions affecting our national security are made?

All I know is that people outside the Beltway have grown deeply impatient with our focus-group style of politics. They want to see some bold changes and some new leadership.


It's time to break with the same-old, same-old and use the Feingold resolution to force the Republican-controlled Congress to commit to serious oversight of the controversial, but increasingly popular, surveillance program.

The message from the left-leaning blogosphere is clear: Democrats should understand the real issue. The point is not censure or impeachment; it is Congress' lack of oversight and its failure to hold anyone accountable for major mistakes or missteps. And especially, it's about clearly misleading the American public. . . .

Oversight is a fundamental responsibility of Congress, which until the Republicans took over was a coequal branch of government. It's long past time for the Republican Congress — and in particular the House and Senate Intelligence committees — to stop protecting the administration and start doing more to protect the American people.

via http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 01:24 PM
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1. Donna Brazille is an ASS that cost Gore the 2000 election in WV.
Edited on Tue Mar-14-06 01:24 PM by wakeme2008
:grr: Besides being good friends with KKKarl Rove.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 01:26 PM
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3. Even assess can see the light of day.......eventually...
I am still pissed at her...I hope if Gore runs she doesn't run his campaign again!!
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 01:41 PM
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13. Fine, but her day is over.
We don't need people who are so hard to convince to "see the light of day".
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msgadget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 01:26 PM
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5. Which is why her saying this is significant
Even objectionable people occasionally say things worth hearing...
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 01:37 PM
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9. After 5 years of Bush I am NOT in a forgiving mood.
:grr:
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msgadget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 01:46 PM
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17. LOL! Neither am I and you don't have to forgive her,
just read it and acknowledge (privately) the truth in this.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 01:24 PM
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2. Damn Right We Embrace It
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 01:52 PM
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20. Embrace it?
EMBRACE IT - WE'VE BEEN SHOUTING IT FOR 4 YEARS.

Ms. Brazile is a day late and a million dollars short.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 01:26 PM
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4. Did Rove feed her this during their morning coffee?
STFU, Donna. You had your chance to make a difference. Now you're just a shill shilling from a different angle...but the message is still Rove's -- Please don't hold George W. Bus accountable for his lawbreaking.
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msgadget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 01:28 PM
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8. Please don't hold George W. Bus accountable for his lawbreaking.
This article says the opposite of that...
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 01:37 PM
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10. Sounds like she wants it both ways, I guess
I have trouble with Brazille. This sounds to me like she wants us to hold Congress accountable for not holding Bush accountable. Maybe it's distinction without a difference, but I know Brazille is a good friend of Karl Rove's and gets all sorts of advice from him. I just don't trust her anymore.
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msgadget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 01:50 PM
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18. Hmmm...a distinction without a difference...
hadn't thought of it like that and I've decided not to because this is the most sensible thing I've read or heard from her in way too long and I'm just desperate enough to latch onto it this day. I understand your distrust though.
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 01:27 PM
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6. I'm not a fan of hers, but she's really on target on this!!
this is worth repeating:

The message from the left-leaning blogosphere is clear: Democrats should understand the real issue. The point is not censure or impeachment; it is Congress' lack of oversight and its failure to hold anyone accountable for major mistakes or missteps. And especially, it's about clearly misleading the American public. . . .
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 01:28 PM
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7. This OP is being used to trash her when it should be applauded.
Edited on Tue Mar-14-06 02:01 PM by AtomicKitten
I like Donna Brazille, always have. Some of the stuff said about her here at DU is really funny.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 04:33 PM
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23. Is it because she is someone you "can see yourself having a beer with"?
I don't understand, and am genuinely curious.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 04:57 PM
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26. why do I like her?
Because she is a gracious woman whose political strategy has always promoted honor and dignity, which perhaps doesn't have a place in today's fractious politics.

I don't believe it's justified or appropriate to trash those with whom we disagree, particularly if they are on the same side. Everybody has something to offer.

On DU many people "hate" pundits and politicians with whom they disagree. I'm of the George Harrison's "it's all part of the stew" mindset. With an open mind you can hear things that often help your side, things you would miss if you stopped listening.

That's how I roll.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 05:03 PM
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27. Thank you for answering. I disagree due to her wholly inept handling
of Gores campaign and the terrible advice she gave him, but OTOH, he chose to take it.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 05:21 PM
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30. there are a myriad of reasons why a campaign fails.
I LOVE Al Gore and was devastated by the 2000 nightmare.

IMO it was the goddamn media that screwed him. Unforgivable. I wrote an article that BartCop carried entitled: "Political Assassination: JFK to Al Gore." The most telling quote regarding analysis of the media during the 2000 campaign was: "If Gore walked on water, people would deride him for not being able to swim."

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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 01:38 PM
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11. This is by Donna Brazile?????
Edited on Tue Mar-14-06 01:40 PM by Totally Committed
This reads like evidence of "Invasion of the Body Snatchers"...........

Who is this, and what has she done with the real Donna Brazile?

(My guess: She's pissed that the NOLA clean-up the Republicans promised her has proved non-existent.)

TC
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msgadget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 01:43 PM
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14. Shocked me, that's for sure
It's long past 'that time' when she says something like this. Nobody's listening though...
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 01:39 PM
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12. She is right, and she deserves praise for saying it so clearly
Blast her when you feel she is wrong if you will, but how many other "beltway insiders" are speaking out in this way, directly saying that the left leaning blogosphere has it right and that Democratic leaders have it wrong? Good for Donna.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 01:43 PM
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15. I always expect a clear, moderated voice of reason
from you, Tom, and rarely (if ever) am I disappointed.

I don't agree with you 100% on this, but no one says it better than you do. You are a class act.

TC
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msgadget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 01:45 PM
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16. EXACTLY!
Thank you! There's such bitterness toward her I fear many didn't even bother to read the Roll Call piece and it is almost, imo, an official call to war!
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 01:52 PM
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19. Blogger reminds us that 14 of 16 Dems voted in House to censure Clinton!
And one of them was Chuck Schumer! Grow a spine, Dems! Stand up for the rule of law!

UPDATE II (by Glenn): Here is the breakdown of the House Judiciary Committe's vote on the resolution to censure Bill Clinton, which was rejected 22-14. Fourteen out of sixteen House Democrats (including Chuck Schumer) voted for it, and all Republicans voted against it (because they wanted impeachment, not censure). So, unlike Feinstein's censure resolution (which was introduced after the Senate acquitted him on the impeachment charges), these House Democrats supported censure as an alternative to impeachment. Still, they did not have to vote for it, and at least two of them refused to do so. How can any Democrat who voted in favor of censuring Bill Clinton - such as Schumer - possibly even have to think about whether to support Feingold's resolution to censure of George Bush?

ttp://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com /
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msgadget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 01:58 PM
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21. My jaw dropped when I read Feinstein's censure resolution
for something that in no way violated our civil liberties. Why'd the democrats do that? To prove to the country they were moral too? The republicans don't do that. As I keep repeating, DeLay is on Appropriations...! So, when Donna Brazille comes out and says it's time to stop standing around waiting for the best moment because it has, in fact, arrived...!
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 02:34 PM
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22. Deleted.
Edited on Tue Mar-14-06 02:35 PM by flpoljunkie
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 04:47 PM
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24. Heads Up! Brazile was just on CNN with Wolfie - I caught the last words
and even though she ended her remarks stipulating that she supported Feingold, she seemed to be reinforcing Terry Clark's snarky remarks about political grandstanding ..

i did not catch the full exchange, but my sense was that Donna was doing her same ole same ole defensive posture equivicating in most of her commentary - anyone else catch this?
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msgadget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 04:53 PM
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25. Thanks, Radio.
Damn, damn, damn! Here she wrote a fabulous piece about democrats getting behind Feingold and... I hope to find a video of it somewhere before I lose my cool altogether...
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 05:12 PM
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28. I may be too harsh... will have to check the repeat broadcast and watch
it in it's entirety - but i did want to give folks a heads up so eveyrone can see for ourselves - and determine what damage to her own article (if any) she may or may not have inflicted.. :shrug: tbd...
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msgadget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 05:19 PM
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29. I'm not a CNN watcher, do you kno when (EST) this will be rerun? n/t
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 06:35 PM
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31. I don't care what she says; I cannot abide her, never could.
I think it's her permanently stuffed nose.
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