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bermudat Donating Member (985 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 01:50 PM
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Former Senator Jesse Helms has vascular dementia.
<http://www.newsobserver.com/622/story/424539.html>

An article in the Raleigh paper says Helms has been moved from his home to a nearby convalescent center. The writer says "it goes without saying that it is sad to see Helms' decline." No it's not. It actually brightened my day. Here's another gem, "Love him or hate him, and few people were neutral, Helms was a vital man and a political warrior who engaged in many of the great debates of the 20th century, as a television editorialist, banking lobbyist and 30 yr U.S. senator." Vital man? He was a hateful bigot who has nothing to show for his 30 years in the Senate except discord, not one meaningful piece of legislation. His reputation was based on blocking progressive legislation. I resent my tax dollars keeping him alive for probably decade when so many Americans go without health insurance. Get ready for the Helms-a-palooza on the fascist news channel (faux) when he finally returns to his lord and maker, Lucifer.
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joemurphy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 01:52 PM
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1. How can they tell? Did someone notice a difference? n/t
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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 02:00 PM
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2. OMG, that is so effing cold hearted - I said the same about Reagan nt
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 02:03 PM
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6. And I'm saying the same about Scalia
who is becoming increasingly disinhibited and that aint good.
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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 02:16 PM
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9. Unfortunately you might be right too - Have you ever noticed.............
....these people who have some really serious mental issues are generally republican/neocon?? I've noticed that and I'm beginning to wonder if repeating that party message all the time really dumbs a person down more than we think.:wtf:
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 02:58 PM
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12. I have noticed similar patterns of behavior.

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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 10:17 PM
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22. Ya might add Cheney's "Fuck You" to Senator Pat Leahy.
Edited on Sun Apr-02-06 10:17 PM by 0007
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 02:03 PM
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5. I think Delay and Senate leader eyeballed his NSA tapes.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 02:01 PM
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3. Dear Satan
make room for another soul. Maybe seat him next to Marge Schott.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 02:02 PM
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4. You made me laugh
returning to his lord and maker lucifer, lol.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 02:06 PM
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7. And how recently was he working?
Could this have been going on while he was serving the people?

Just like Ronald Reagan, who was in the early stages of Alzheimer's Disease while President?

Reminds me of George Bush. Something is just not right with that man, and we are likely putting our lives on the line by allowing him to remain in the White House. He is at the very least mentally ill.
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bermudat Donating Member (985 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 02:21 PM
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10. That hatred closed the vessels in his brain, a longstanding problem.
You're probably right, he's been suffering from rightwing dementia for years. His last speeches were in October 2004 which leads one to believe he's been going downhill ever since.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 02:10 PM
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8. a modern William Jennings Bryan, a real muckraking piece of crap.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 09:23 PM
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21. You are comparing Helms to William Jennings Bryan...
Hardly apt, except in their fundamentalism, and even there Bryan was not as mean spirited and intrusive as Helms...

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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 07:27 AM
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25. I suggest you read HL Mencken on Bryan. They are fundie twins.
Bryan, in the last two decades of his life, was a scum-sucking, dirt-throwing, vile and totally unchristian christian fundie, one who used virulent personal attacks rather than address any issue.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 09:33 AM
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26. H.L. Mencken was an extremely biased observer...
William Jennings Bryan, aside from his fundamentalist views, was a champion for labor and rural workers. He was a populist in the good sense of that word.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 10:07 AM
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28. hard to set aside his views, when that took up most of the last 10yrs of
his life. His performance at the Scopes trial was notable for exposing him to be an evil fraud.
Yes, Mencken had strong views, but even long before Scopes, he described just how corrupt and destructive force his fundie views were.

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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 10:25 AM
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29. He was hardly a fraud...
He simply had beliefs you do not share, nor do I. The status of public education, nor the definition of what was considered free speech was not yet well defined by the courts. Even Darrow acknowledged Bryan made a strong case for local control of school content. Darrow's beef was that in this case it consisted of advocating a specific religious belief in the classroom.

Overall William Jennings Bryan was an honorable man, with the positives far outweighnig the negatives...and certainly not a truly cruel personage as Helms was.

Though Clarence Darrow opposed him at the end, and their relationship was strained, he and Bryan worked together on several issues, and if I am not mistaken Darrow supported Bryan for President.
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SeaBob Donating Member (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 02:22 PM
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11. jesse helms
You captured my thinking exactly. jesse Helms was a nasty old mean bigot who did nothing positive for the country except to try to drag it into a cess pool where he dwelled
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 02:59 PM
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13. He threatened a president 's life once.
That was meaningful.
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American Tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 03:29 PM
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14. Even if I (God forbid) leaned remotely conservative I would loathe him.
Never forget, Jesse Helms was absolutely unrepentent. Though it's impossible to say whether or not it was heartfelt (I'd like to believe that it was), George Wallace at the very least made some effort to redeem himself later in life.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 03:31 PM
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15. Which began the day he was elected to the Senate.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 03:46 PM
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16. Is he still alive?
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Metta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 04:24 PM
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17. Particularly poetic circumstances.
Preventable cognitive impairment for a person who spent so many years keeping so many people in states of mind and being that were detrimental to their health and well being. Talk about chickens coming home to roost.
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Kenergy Donating Member (834 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 04:31 PM
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18. You're headline should have read...
Former Senator Jesse Helms has had dementia for 30 years.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 04:40 PM
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19. Just to keep things from getting ugly around here
Edited on Sun Apr-02-06 04:56 PM by Jack Rabbit
When Jesse passes to the great cross burning in the sky, please join me in observing the occasion with a long and stony moment of silence.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 09:12 PM
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20. Helms is demented is NEWS?
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 10:53 PM
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23. I have been raised not to be crass and cruel
and thus have nothing whatsoever to say upon learning this news.
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msgadget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 02:34 AM
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24. When he finally hobbled on out
Edited on Mon Apr-03-06 02:35 AM by msgadget
they were able to appear inclusive. Our president has quite the rainbow surrounding him. My ad-blocker blocked the article - is this a condition like Reagan's, something that creeps along for years before the big zaparooni fries the brain? I don't wish anyone ill but can you IMAGINE what it's like for the worker's at the home? :woohoo:

Edit for spelling...as usual
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 09:35 AM
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27. I thought he was dead
see what I know :shrug:
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