Gates, Buffett Alliance Attacked (Fundies are going crazy

[wakeme2008]

http://www.tbo.com/news/nationworld/MGB3ERNY1PE.html

Gates, Buffett Alliance Attacked

By DAVID CRARY The Associated Press

Published: Jun 30, 2006

NEW YORK - Warren Buffett's new philanthropic alliance with fellow billionaire Bill Gates won widespread praise this week, but antiabortion activists did not join in, instead assailing the two donors for their longtime support of Planned Parenthood and international birth-control programs.

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"The merger of Gates and Buffett may spell doom for the families of the developing world," said the Rev. Thomas Euteneuer, a Roman Catholic priest who is president of Human Life International.

Referring to Josef Mengele, the infamous Nazi death camp doctor, Euteneuer said Buffett "will be known as the Dr. Mengele of philanthropy unless he repents."

...more at link....

While this pisses me off, still I want to seat back and :popcorn: as these crazies go wild.....

[HysteryDiagnosis]

1. That's a pretty stiff position for a group that has been known

for the creation of a sodomystical asspactory.... I hope I spelt that right.

[Arugula Latte]

11. "sodomystical asspactory" -- BWAAA!

:rofl:

[msongs]

2. ummm, wasn't the POPE in the hitler youth?? they oughta know

a nazi when they crown one.

Msongs
www.msongs.com/political-shirts.htm

[Demobrat]

3. Let the little piggies squeal.

Somehow I doubt either Gates or Buffet will be the slightest bit impressed.

[applegrove]

4. Catholic Church is interested in souls. Doesn't matter how long those

souls live if say the childhood death rate is 30% in some terribly poor places. I guess numbers matter most. How about souls that don't die from mosquito bites? How about research into disease that allow families to then concentrate on educating their kids instead of spending all day trying to cope. So they have fewer kids and spend 5 days a week working instead of walking around looking for firewood that is not there.

How about birth control?

[IndianaGreen]

9. LIke Mother Teresa

she just wanted the poor people under her care to have a nice Catholic death, while she used the money raised by well-meaning people for her charity to expand her religious Order.

[applegrove]

13. I don't know enough about Mother Theresa to answer your assertions.

I do know when she died she had a bucket, a pair of sandals and one robe to her name. That is all she had in her estate.

I'm not denying the good the walk walkers do. I just think that the Catholic Church denying other forms of birth control to people who are desperately poor is very, very bad indeed. Fine if you don't like abortion. Then use all the tools under the sun to stop the need. They don't.

And now.. all they see is abortion in Buffet's donation..when really Bill & Melinda Gates are working to solve scientific problems in the Southern Hemisphere.. that were solved in the Northern Hemisphere 4 generations ago. Some of these issues are as technically sophisticated to solve as small pox was. Nobody devoted the money. And now the Gates and Buffet do.


Interesting to note that the Catholic Church is changing the rules on "LIMBO". Because so many African mothers have children who die in early infancy and toddlerhood that they never get baptised. And the Catholic Church feels it keeps people from converting.. if they have to leave behind all their babies in limbo..when they convert.

I don't see how allowing and pushing for all manner of birth control in the poorest areas.. would do anything but reduce the number of abortions. If that is what they really care about.. they can be flexible. If they really care. They can make changes. And they could help to transform the world. In ways more productive in concert with the good works they do do around the world. Why only use one tool? You throw everything you got at an issue. If you think abortion is an abomination... I'm not going to fight you and say it is great. Just go about eradicating it with all the tools in the book. Not 1/3 of them.

Don't even get me started on AIDS!!!

[IndianaGreen]

14. The pope beatifies Mother Teresa, a fanatic, a fundamentalist, and a fraud

Mommie Dearest

The pope beatifies Mother Teresa, a fanatic, a fundamentalist, and a fraud.

By Christopher Hitchens
Posted Monday, Oct. 20, 2003, at 4:04 PM ET

MT was not a friend of the poor. She was a friend of poverty. She said that suffering was a gift from God. She spent her life opposing the only known cure for poverty, which is the empowerment of women and the emancipation of them from a livestock version of compulsory reproduction. And she was a friend to the worst of the rich, taking misappropriated money from the atrocious Duvalier family in Haiti (whose rule she praised in return) and from Charles Keating of the Lincoln Savings and Loan. Where did that money, and all the other donations, go? The primitive hospice in Calcutta was as run down when she died as it always had been—she preferred California clinics when she got sick herself—and her order always refused to publish any audit. But we have her own claim that she opened 500 convents in more than a hundred countries, all bearing the name of her own order. Excuse me, but this is modesty and humility?

The rich world has a poor conscience, and many people liked to alleviate their own unease by sending money to a woman who seemed like an activist for "the poorest of the poor." People do not like to admit that they have been gulled or conned, so a vested interest in the myth was permitted to arise, and a lazy media never bothered to ask any follow-up questions. Many volunteers who went to Calcutta came back abruptly disillusioned by the stern ideology and poverty-loving practice of the "Missionaries of Charity," but they had no audience for their story. George Orwell's admonition in his essay on Gandhi—that saints should always be presumed guilty until proved innocent—was drowned in a Niagara of soft-hearted, soft-headed, and uninquiring propaganda.

One of the curses of India, as of other poor countries, is the quack medicine man, who fleeces the sufferer by promises of miraculous healing. Sunday was a great day for these parasites, who saw their crummy methods endorsed by his holiness and given a more or less free ride in the international press. Forgotten were the elementary rules of logic, that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence and that what can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. More than that, we witnessed the elevation and consecration of extreme dogmatism, blinkered faith, and the cult of a mediocre human personality. Many more people are poor and sick because of the life of MT: Even more will be poor and sick if her example is followed. She was a fanatic, a fundamentalist, and a fraud, and a church that officially protects those who violate the innocent has given us another clear sign of where it truly stands on moral and ethical questions.

http://www.slate.com/id/2090083/

Calcutta has the reputation as being a complete hell hole thanks to Mother Teresa. You get the impression from her that it's a place where people are just about able to brush the flies from their children’s eyes, the begging bowl is fully out, that people are on their knees and crawling.

Nothing could be further from the truth. Calcutta is one of the most vibrant and interesting cities in the world. It’s full of film schools, universities, bookstores and cafés. It has a tremendously vibrant political life. It’s the place that produced the films of Satyajit Ray. It’s a wonderful city. It's architecturally beautiful. And the people do not beg. They’re not abject. They’re very poor; some sleep on the street, but they’re usually working and hustling at something. They don’t grovel, as in some parts of India I must say they do.

It’s hugely overpopulated partly because of the refugees, mainly from the successive wars of religion—stupid wars about God that have been fought in the neighborhood. That’s not its fault. It’s basically a secular town. So I thought: What a pity that Mother Teresa should have given this great city such a bad name and made us feel condescending toward it.

So partly for the honor of Calcutta, and partly out of my feeling that her actions are being judged by her reputation rather than her reputation by her actions (a common postmodern problem in the image business of course, but amazing in this case), I sort of opened a file on her, kept a brief. And then I noticed her turning up supporting the Duvalier family in Haiti, for example, and saying how wonderful they were and how great they were for the poor and how the poor loved them.

http://www.lipmagazine.org/articles/featpostel_56.htm

[ShortnFiery]

16. The same can be said of that old sot, Christopher Hitchens

I hesitate to disrespect Mother Theresa albeit there's two sides to every story.

Nothing more disgusting than a bitter old drunk pontificating.

Hitchens has no right to cast any stones. :puke:

[IndianaGreen]

17. Did you notice the lack of medical facilities at M. Teresa's Calcutta

facilities, yet she was raising millions of dollars from donors from across the world. I noticed that before even Hitchens mentioned it.

[saltpoint]

5. I'm no fortune teller but I have a hard time seeing Buffett becoming

known as the Joseph Mengele of philanthropists.

And from what I can observe of high upper-income denizens, when you have 30 billion smackers to give away you don't have to kiss anybody's hindend at any end of the political spectrum.

[marmar]

6. It doesn't take long for fundie dregs to crawl from the sewer, does it?

God forbid they support an agency that helps people avoid sexually transmitted diseases or prevent babies from being born to parents who don't want them.

[roseBudd]

7. Doom is being a catholic from a third world country who doesn't have

access to birthcontrol and can't feed thge steady parade of "extra mouths"

[emdee]

8. This is exactly what they've asked for!

They say they want people to put up the money for the issues they believe in rather than using tax dollars. But, whenever it happens just that way they then complain again. I guess that even my piddly $20 donation to the charity of my choice should be approved by them? What hypocrites.
emdee

[rucky]

10. I'll finish my comment later... right now I have to run & get an abortion.

never mind that I'm

a) not pregnant
b) not pre-pregnant

[Arugula Latte]

12. I do too! I like to have abortions whenever possible -- just for fun!

Call it a hobby...Hey, I should add that to my DU profile under "Hobby."

[mrreowwr_kittty]

15. Same here

Gotta fit in that prom dress ya know! Even though I'm 38 years old. :rofl:

[butterfly77]

18. These are the same damn people who don't give a damn about

these children once they are born. These so called christians need to take their asses to Africa and Bangldesh and any other country where children are starving. They need to take their asses to skid row and to the homeless shelters and build some affordable housing in this country etc...Hypocritical -------s

[Hippo_Tron]

19. The bible has a lot to say about helping the poor

Yet I don't think that the word "abortion" is in there once. Nevermind, I'm only being logical.