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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 06:40 PM
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CNN:Hastert afraid to report Foley for fear of being seen as homophobic
On Situation Room Tony Perkins of Family Research Council just told John King, with the way things are going now Hastert may have kept info to himself so he wouldn't be attacked by gay rights groups. Some spin huh? No link to transcript yet, but when they post it I'll put it up, unless someone else can get it, please post it.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 06:42 PM
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1. BULLSHIT....
It is about UNDERAGE KIDS ......
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 06:45 PM
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3. Exactly...
and these bastards are pulling every trick in the book to save their own asses. SCUM!!
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last1standing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 06:44 PM
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2. Good.
Statements like that can only hurt the christofascists and their repuppets. You're average mother or father isn't going to be happy when the FRC tells them this is the "homos'" fault.
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hedda_foil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 06:46 PM
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4. I don't think that's going to sell well to Tony's crowd.
This position would be totally offensive to their moral values and their image of Perkins as a Christian leader. It makes Hastert and the leadership look like thumbsucking wimps at best and more likely like immoral hypocrites.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 06:46 PM
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5. Bullshit! If Foley was sending emails to an ADULT...
there would have been no reason for Hastert to report him. Hastert KNEW this wasn't about homosexuality, it was about a US Congressman lusting for an underage boy! :grr:

So ... is Tony Perkins saying that Hastert lied when he claimed he didn't find out about Foley until Friday? :evilgrin:
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:10 PM
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16. Hastert lied...
NYT
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/01/washington/01foley.ht...

<<snip>>

Among those who became aware of the communication in the fall of 2005 between Mr. Foley and the 16-year-old page, who worked for Representative Rodney Alexander, Republican of Louisiana, were Representative John A. Boehner, the majority leader, and Representative Thomas M. Reynolds of New York, chairman of the National Republican Congressional Committee. Mr. Reynolds said in a statement Saturday that he had also personally raised the issue with Speaker J. Dennis Hastert earlier this year.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:33 PM
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23. I know he lied, but if Perkins wants to stick with his explanation ...
of Hastert's silence, then he is confirming that Hastert knew long before Friday ... even though Denny denies it.

Perkins obviously didn't get Denny's talking points memo. :evilgrin:
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:51 PM
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25. Yeah, "I don't recall" n/t
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 06:47 PM
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6. "There's no way to spin this!" - Bay Buchanan
He should take what she said earlier today to heart.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:10 PM
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17. Yeah, but you can try lyin'
your stupid head off and see if that flies.
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:13 PM
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18. Yeah, and I'm sure...
there are enough stupid ass-holes out there to fall for it.
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Grillydad Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 06:49 PM
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7. Like gays are his constituancy
Literally, his defense was I wasn't able to pander to the Gays I have systemattically worked to make second citizens.
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MikeNearMcChord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 06:52 PM
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8. Dennis the Wrassler wasn't too concerned about gay bashing
Edited on Mon Oct-02-06 06:54 PM by MikeNearMcChord
when they were trying to pass a Constitutional Admendment banning Gay Marriage. Let's sit back and enjoy the spectacle:popcorn: Maybe more interesting than tonight's Packer-Eagle game. Oh BTW speaking of spectacle, I heard that RW talk was in a state of chaos over Foley. Any reports? Thanx!
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 06:53 PM
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9. Yeah right!
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 06:54 PM
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10. oh Horseshit!
it's REALLY getting deep now. Let me get my hipwaders.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 06:56 PM
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11. Like Hastert-RRR, was worried about losing civil-rights groups
support.

That statement is just laughable at every level and that's how we should treat it--it's too ridiculous to be taken with any seriousness at all.

Puh-leeeeeze!

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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:03 PM
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12. First time in history they ever cared what gay rights groups would say.
I call bullshit.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:07 PM
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13. Touche!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:08 PM
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14. I know hastert looks that willfully Stupid
But I think he's a lyin' sonofvabitch.



They're both sayin', "I'm with Stupid".
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:09 PM
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15. Newt "Dead Pundit Walking" Gingrich started that talking point yesterday
And since when do the Republicans worry about appearing homophobic? It's their stock in trade--What was that whole anti-gay marriage thing was about?

:crazy:
rocknation
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:17 PM
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19. typical
they are always trying to link homosexuality with pedophilia
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:20 PM
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20. Oh, I guess all that anti-gay marriage jawing wasn't the least bit
homophobic, was it?
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:51 PM
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24. Good one......
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:20 PM
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21. "blame it on the gays." heh. he's really digging himself a deep one now!
i love this thing. time for more popcorn!
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:28 PM
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22. Oh, PUH-leeze.
Translation: BULL-Shit.
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beaconess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:54 PM
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26. So that means that they owe Bill Clinton and apology
After all, he isn't gay and didn't engage improper behavior with any male interns. Since the problem with Foley was not that he was a grown-ass man chasing around after 16-year olds, but that he was a male chasing around after other males, Clinton's behavior wasn't even worth comment, much less condemnation.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 08:03 PM
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27. Nice try Dennis. You paying your think tanks over time for that?
n/t
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 08:04 PM
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28. Like pushing the marriage act isn't homophobic....
Oh for christ sake, these people are just amazing....
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 08:57 PM
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29. CNN TRANSCRIPT...
Edited on Mon Oct-02-06 09:03 PM by dajoki
THE SITUATION ROOM
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0610/02/sitroom.03.html

Hill Scandal Gets More Explosive

Aired October 2, 2006 - 19:00 ET

<<Snip>>

KING: More now on our top story, the scandal over former Congressman Mark Foley's explicit communications with a former congressional page. Joining us from Baton Rouge, Louisiana to talk about this as a potential political fallout is Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council.

Tony Perkins thank you for joining us. I want to begin with a simple question to you. You're a leader of a grass roots conservative organization that a lot of pro-family voters around the country look to for guidance and advice in moments like this. There are conservative activists like Richard Vagary (ph), conservative groups like Citizens United who say the Republican leadership blew this, they did not handle this well. The speaker and others should resign from office. Do you think that's the case?

TONY PERKINS, PRES., FAMILY RESEARCH COUNCIL: Well I think it's premature to say whether or not the leadership should resign. I think it certainly raises questions about what did the leadership know and when did they know it. We do know that they had indications that there were improper communications between this congressman and pages as long as two or three years ago. But, I think there may have been some fear that they had in pressing it forward out of fear of being seen as gay bashing or homophobic because of the orientation of Congressman Foley....

<<snip>>

PERKINS: Well, I would like to know what was exactly said to the speaker and why he did or did not do something. Was it out of fear of pushing something too far, overreacting and that because of the orientation of Congressman Foley, they would be seen as being gay bashing? You know was that a part of the decision not to act?

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0610/02/sitroom.03.html

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