U.S. Set To Cut Deal With Taliban

[RestoreGore]

So was this really what Musharraf and Karzai were in Washington for when they had dinner with Bush? I thought we didn't do business with terrorists? If this is indeed true, then doesn't this make our government a terrorist government for doing business with terrorists?
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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/2091218.cms

US set to cut deal with Taliban
Chidanand Rajghatta
< 5 Oct, 2006 0149hrs ISTTIMES NEWS NETWORK >

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WASHINGTON: Alarm bells are going off in the US political and strategic community over the Bush administration's weighing the option of bringing Taliban back into the power equation in Afghanistan. First signs of impending overtures to Taliban from Washington came last month when Bush and his aides gingerly supported Pakistan’s agreement with Taliban in the Waziristan province, a deal which was panned in strategic circles as a sell-out to extremists at the expense of US and NATO ground troops in Afghanistan.

Undeterred by the criticism, the Bush subsequently persuaded Afghan President Hamid Karzai, who is vehemently opposed to the deal, to 'wait and see' how the Pakistani deal works. Now comes advice from Republican Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist that the Bush administration should consider bringing Taliban back into the power equation in Kabul.

Arguing that Taliban fighters were "too numerous and too popular" to be defeated, Frist told reporters after a visit to Afghanistan last weekend that "You need to bring them (Taliban) into a more transparent type of government... And if that's accomplished, we'll be successful."

"Approaching counterinsurgency by winning hearts and minds will ultimately be the answer. Military versus insurgency one-to-one doesn't sound like it can be won. It sounds to me... that the Taliban is everywhere," he was quoted as saying. The remarks sparked outrage in US political-strategic circles with critics panning Frist, who is a doctor by profession, of waving the white flag before elements who helped perpetuate 9/11.

"Senator Frist now suggests that the best way forward in Afghanistan is to coddle the Taliban by welcoming Taliban members into a coalition government, as if 9/11 had never happened," Democrat leader Nancy Pelosi chafed in a statement. Frist, who is a Republican Presidential aspirant in 2008, was also criticized by John Kerry. Not that the Democrats have a great record with the fundamentalist yahoos first mid-wifed by the Pakistani military to get a foothold in Afghanistan and gain strategic depth against India, which prefers the more broad-based and pan-Afghan Northern Alliance.

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[Warren Stupidity]

1. 911? That was so 2001. nt.

[WCGreen]

2. So if they are suppose to be a democracy over there in

Afganistan, then how is it up to the Bush Administration to consider bringing the Taliban back into the power equation in Kabul...

[Zynx]

3. If they do, ooooohhhhh boy is that a great issue for us.

[radfringe]

14. Should we be calling it....

Cut a deal - then run?

[Waya]

4. Next step: 'Pardon' Saddam......

.and put him back in charge of Iraq.....:crazy:

[RestoreGore]

16. I could actually see that happening n/t

[Waya]

21. I can, too

[blm]

5. It was SOME Democrats who looked the other way - Kerry was the Dem

sounding the alarm on Pakistan's dealing with terrorists and arms dealers. Ignored by most of DC.

[Kierkegaard]

6. "..Taliban fighters were 'too numerous and too popular' to be defeated.."

Republicans: the party of 'cut & run.'

Funny how they perform the deed and we get slapped with the label, isn't it? Can anyone say projection? I knew that you could.

[acmavm]

7. OBSCENE! The attack on Afganistan and the overthow of the

Taliban government is now been rendered moot. All for nothing. All those dead people died for not one damn thing. Not a moral issue, not retribution, not revenge, not the eradication of a bad government tyrannical government, NOTHING.

NOTHING.

[bigtree]

8. Not a word of dissent was heard from Bush on the campaign trail

against Frist this week, as the Majority Leader of the republican-controlled Senate suggested unilateral surrender to the Taliban

. Do Bill Frist and Bush truly believe the world would be better off with the Taliban still in power?

If so, they need to 'say it loud and clear'. Bush can't have it both ways. Either he can persist in making the risks of violent reprisals to our country worse by continuing to occupy Iraq, or he can pull our soldiers out of there and concentrate the nearly $10b a month he's spending on Iraq alone on honoring his original promise to Americans to pursue and capture bin-Laden, "dead or alive".

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/bigtree

[blm]

9. Frist put it out there FOR Bush. They orchestrate to see what the backlash

will be and how to tweak the presentation to fool the people.

[bigtree]

10. Amazing retreat while our troops are still actively engaged in combat

with the Taliban.

Away with the old 'war on terror', in with the new 'war' in Iraq. What an amazing retreat.

[blm]

12. What we want for Iraq so the military can concentrate on Afghanistan and

Al Qaeda, they are doing the exact opposite. Get out of Afghanistan to concentrate on Iraq. The 9-11 families must be thoroughly disgusted.

[RufusEarl]

11. The letting of trail balloons!

If peace comes to Afghanistan it want be by force, seems dim-son read a book and figured since the Russians couldn't defeat the Taliban perhaps we need a peace deal.

But all the lost soldiers in Afghanistan, and it was all for nothing!

[Double T]

13. Cut a deal with the Taliban............

provide THEM with millions of dollars in funds and declare VICTORY AT LAST!!! So when is the $20 million dollar victory celebration party?? Are 'WE' all invited?????

[tk2kewl]

15. the oil crooks finally realized it would be cheaper to buy in than

simply try to take what they wanted

[jwirr]

17. Yeah, they keep growing the poppies and we will let them.

[RestoreGore]

18. Yes. War On Drugs?

BS. Just the war on drugs that gets in the way of their drug pipeline.

[seafan]

19. So now, we have come full circle. It's May, 2001 all over again.

When * decided to cut a deal with the Taliban... a gift of $43 Million to their farmers in return for *destroying* the poppy crops.


All in the name of just some friendly little negotiations with the Taliban over * and Cheney's oil and gas pipeline deal, that Cheney was working furtively on in 2001... And while Enron's involvement was being hidden in the shadows, this administration summarily halted all investigations into the actions of the Saudis/Taliban/Enron to maintain the secret pipeline dealings out of public knowledge.



The pipeline negotiations with the Taliban fell apart in August, 2001, amid threats by the * administration of either 'a carpet of gold or a carpet of bombs.'

And because of the clampdown by the * administration on intelligence gathering during the months of early and mid 2001, Al-Quaeda was able to take advantage of the blinded intel agencies, quickly finalizing their plans for September 11, 2001 attacks.


Looks like * needs a *DO-OVER*.



US set to cut deal with Taliban, October 5, 2006

WASHINGTON: Alarm bells are going off in the US political and strategic community over the Bush administration's weighing the option of bringing Taliban back into the power equation in Afghanistan.

First signs of impending overtures to Taliban from Washington came last month when Bush and his aides gingerly supported Pakistan’s agreement with Taliban in the Waziristan province, a deal which was panned in strategic circles as a sell-out to extremists at the expense of US and NATO ground troops in Afghanistan.

Undeterred by the criticism, the Bush subsequently persuaded Afghan President Hamid Karzai, who is vehemently opposed to the deal, to 'wait and see' how the Pakistani deal works.

Now comes advice from Republican Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist that the Bush administration should consider bringing Taliban back into the power equation in Kabul.

Arguing that Taliban fighters were "too numerous and too popular" to be defeated, Frist told reporters after a visit to Afghanistan last weekend that "You need to bring them (Taliban) into a more transparent type of government... And if that's accomplished, we'll be successful."

"Approaching counterinsurgency by winning hearts and minds will ultimately be the answer. Military versus insurgency one-to-one doesn't sound like it can be won. It sounds to me... that the Taliban is everywhere," he was quoted as saying.

The remarks sparked outrage in US political-strategic circles with critics panning Frist, who is a doctor by profession, of waving the white flag before elements who helped perpetuate 9/11.

"Senator Frist now suggests that the best way forward in Afghanistan is to coddle the Taliban by welcoming Taliban members into a coalition government, as if 9/11 had never happened," Democrat leader Nancy Pelosi chafed in a statement.

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[Sinti]

20. Mission Accomplished!

:cry: :banghead: :cry: :banghead: :cry: :banghead:

I don't know what to think anymore - Sometimes, when I read this stuff, I feel like I must have lost my mind, because this can't possibly be reality.