Gay activist planning to out congressional staffers, senators

[BOSSHOG]

and congressmen. Trickling them out a couple a day.

Says that they are forced in the closet because of the republican party.

Mike Rogers on Ed Schultz show. Says there is no doubt the foley situation is a gop coverup.

[Not Me]

1. look here

www.blogactive.com

[Nimrod2005]

11. Jesus Christ? James Dobson and Tony Perkins were mentioned by name

nice interview, with 2 million of O'leiley watching...very nice, thanks for posting.

[Virginia Dare]

2. Yowza...

the hypocritical chickenhawk homophobes have come to roost!

:evilgrin:

[rinsd]

3. Great this dumbass is gonna turn this into a gay scandal.

It was about a pedophile who abused his power and preyed on the young.

Now its whispers of the velvet mafia (wasn't that a right wing term?) that covered up for their fellow gay man being added to the already overt GOP gay bashing.

Just ducky.

On edit: the term velvet mafia was not used by this guy. I am leaving it in my post though because I still believe that is the ammo this guy is providing.

[kstewart33]

6. He's outing gay Repub hypocrites.

Meaning gays in Congress who trash gay people. There's a real difference here.

[rinsd]

14. Its the framing, not the outing

Though as I have said, I am not keen on outing as a tactic.

The framing is these outed gay men conspired to protect their fellow gay man who is embroiled in a pedophillia scandal. Already we have seen the transparent gay bashing with this case, I am not sure this helps.

[AntiFascist]

17. Keep in mind that there's also the scandal involving...

the prostitution ring (consisting of straight college age women) who were possibly servicing members of congress. I don't know if this consisted mostly of Republicans, but I would not be surprised.

[cally]

22. What??? I haven't seen these rumors

Please enlighten me.

[robinlynne]

23. Randy Duke Cunningham. There was a limo service which provided escorts

to congressmen. if you look up cunningham's history, you'll find the articles.

[cally]

24. Thanks. I recall that after your reminder..nt

[cui bono]

27. having looked at the site, you are absolutely right.

He's asking them to investigate these guys because they might have had reasons to cover up for Foley just because they're gay Repubs. That's just wrong.

On the other hand, I have no problem with people outing gays who vote against gay legislation. I owuld want to know that. Just like I would wnat to know if someone claimed to be an environmentalist and yet voted against legislation to protect it. They're supposed to represent the people. If they don't like it they shouldn't be hypocrites in a job that affects other people's daily lives.

[Clark2008]

16. Yeah - true - but Foley is a pedophile. It has nothing to do

with his adult relationships.

[cui bono]

25. Foley had adult relationships? ;) Actually...

technically speaking it does have to do with his adult relationships since he was stalking pages when they were minors and is known to have had sex with at least one of them after the page turned 21.

But it does not have anything to do with his sexual orientation.

[Virginia Dare]

9. If it is successful to the degree...

that it turns the wide-eyed fundies' world of GOP worship upside down, so be it.

But I agree, this could turn ugly very quickly. I can already imagine the cries for a constitutional amendment banning gays from seeking national office.

[MadMaddie]

10. I agree with you but this also is a case of pointing out the

hypocracy of the Repuglican party......if not now when would they be held accountable for what they have done? It's a no win either way you look at it.....having said that...I have no sympathy for them whatsoever...

[rinsd]

13. I have no sympathy for the outed in this case....

....though I am not a big fan of the tactic.

What I am worried about is the framing, that gay men conspired to protect one of their own. Even if it was Republican gay men that conspired to protect a gay Republican, that is not how the public tends to hear it.

[onenote]

15. where would you draw the line?

Is anyone who works for an a repub fair game? Secretaries, interns? What about their immediate families? If a staffer has a gay brother, should that be a matter of public record? If the rationale for outing them simply is that they are hypocrites for working for someone who doesn't support gay rights, why not out any friends that they socialize with that are gay as well? (Straight Joe Repub works for anti-gay causes, but had gay best man at wedding so he's a hypocrite).

Slippery slope.

[rinsd]

20. Like I said I am not a fan of the tactic.

And I will argue against it and have.

But at this point I am much more worried about the framing of this.

[kstewart33]

4. Please post the link at blogactive.com in your post. eom

[MadMaddie]

5. I was just listening too....

Well they danced with the Devil....and it looks like they lost....

I have no sympathy for them.....they helped propel the gaybashing this administration participated in.....they got into bed with Neocons who wish they could eliminate gays from the earth....

:popcorn:

[onenote]

8. what evidence was provided to support the claim that they're gay?

[iconoclastic cat]

7. Finally! Out all hypocritical gay-bashing gay Republicans!

I have nothing but unlimited scorn for opportunistic traitors.

[partylessinOhio]

12. Bring it on! HypocritesRUs!

[pampango]

18. If the RW outs Democrats, is our response supposed to be "They can't do

that because we are not hypocrites." As far as I can tell the RW will have no reason not to out as many Democrats as they can. Maybe Democrats won't suffer as much politically, because our supporters are more open minded, but it is still a nasty game.

With the Foley case really being about pedophilia and cover up, not his sexual orientation, how did we get to the point where we are hammering on his sexual orientation. For a party that has always opposed gay bashing, to selectively gay bash due to "hypocrisy" seems like we are selling our soul to win an election.

[loyalsister]

19. I've gotta agree

Beyond that, where is the line on between simple self preservation and hypocrisy?
To some people simply not coming out of the closet is a betrayal.
I'm not convinced that Democrats won't be hurt in this process.
I also am not so sure that I think it is fair to be as hard on the gay Republicans as that. They went against their conscience by not standing up for themselves.
I am sure that they had the same internal battle that Dems had when they voted against their conscience on various things in the name of electoral politcs, etc.

[hsher]

30. Here's what Dems need to do - ignore Rogers

Ignore Rogers and any more outings unless they involve pedophilia - which they won't, because most gay men are not pedophiles. Focus even tighter on Foley's inappropriate behavior with children while spending taxpayers' dollars to do it = "Your tax dollars used for GOP child molestation pizza parties", etc. Do not divert from Foley story, and add NK failure. "NK allowed to build bombs while GOP invades bombless country for oil - now we are in danger", etc. Then let Rogers' outings spray unfortunate homophobia blowback all over the GOP while making no comment about it whatsoever.

I think the combination will bring the GOP down.

[The Count]

21. I wish he did that during the gay marriage amandment rather than now

The issues get confused bad enough with the crazies equating being gay with pedophilia.
I am actually against outing - unless it's someone who directly and personally is heinous towards the gay community.

[cui bono]

26. yes that would have been the time and reason to do it. n/t

[enough already]

28. Nail every last Puke hypocrite

Out 'em all!

[hsher]

29. Rogers better avoid jet flights

[Pachamama]

31. Let the list begin....

:popcorn:

Note: I normally would not support the "outing" of anyone, and I do not believe that the Foley Scandal involving sexual predatory behaviour is in any way an issue tied to homosexuality. That said, I believe that the closeted gay members of the Republican party who then have voted in favor of laws that discriminate against gays, have been complicit in the very problems that led to a coverup of the Foley Scandal. I believe that in this case, showing the hypocrisy and showing just how "gay" the GOP really is, will serve a positive in the fact that the GOP will be revealed to being the hypocrites that they are. And actually, in a really ironic way, I think in the end, the closeted GOP members will be "free" from the lies and captivity and may ultimately lead them to being happier and more honest people. And maybe they will finally stop hurting their fellow gays.

[yurbud]

32. why did they start with staffers instead of the big dogs?

that's kind of like trying Lindy Englund for torture and letting Rummy off the hook isn't it?