WHIPPING POST: ALLMAN BROS w/graphics dedicated to a new Republican Bill

[Jeffersons Ghost]

Before viewing this extraordinarily GRAPHIC rendition of a classic Allman Brothers song, please review these reliable news sources:

Bush to sign law authorizing harsh interrogation

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President George W. Bush, keeping his election-year focus on national security, is to sign a bill into law on Tuesday that allows tough interrogation and prosecution of terrorism suspects.

The Military Commissions Act of 2006 sets standards for interrogating suspects, but through a complex set of rules that human rights groups say could allow harsh techniques bordering on torture, such as sleep deprivation and induced hypothermia.

With Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and Attorney General Alberto Gonzales looking on, Bush is to sign the bill which was negotiated in September after senior Republicans rebelled against the president's plan and forced concessions from him.http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2006/10/17/worldupdates/2006-10-17T105552Z_01_NOOTR_RTRJONC_0_-272555-1&sec=Worldupdates

Bush signs Guantanamo military trial law
Times Online
By Elsa McLaren and AP
President Bush today signed into law a controversial Bill that permits the tough interrogation of foreign terror suspects and smooths the way for Guantanamo Bay detainees to be tried before military commissions without any legal representation.

Signing the Bill, Mr Bush described it as a "vital tool" in the fight against terrorism, but civil liberty campaigners said that it would allow prisoners to be held indefinitely and sentenced to death on evidence beaten out of them.http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,11069-2408546,00.html

Abu Ghraib was 'Animal House' at night
Commanders blamed for lack of supervision

Wednesday, August 25, 2004 Posted: 10:39 AM EDT (1439 GMT)

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Abuses photographed at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq represented "deviant behavior and a failure of military leadership and discipline" at the facility, but direct and indirect responsibility for those acts and others elsewhere went higher up the chain of command, an independent panel reported Tuesday.

The prison's weaknesses were no secret and they should have been fixed, said James Schlesinger, chairman of the four-member advisory panel appointed by Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld in early May to investigate abuse allegations.

"We believe that there is institutional and personal responsibility right up the chain of command as far as Washington is concerned," Schlesinger told a news conference to release the 126-page report.http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/08/24/abughraib.report/

Photographs in this montage reportedly originated at ABU GHRAIB Prison in Iraq
Abuse at Abu Ghraib prison (Contains graphic content. Viewer discretion advised.)

Whipping Post by The Allman Brothers Band

Album: The Allman Brothers Band
released 1969

I been run down,



I been lied to,


I dont know why I let that mean woman make me a fool.



She took all my money, wrecked my new car.



Now shes with one of my goodtime buddies,



Theyre drinkin in some crosstown bar.



Sometimes I feel, sometimes I feel,



Like I been tied to the whipping post,



Tied to the whipping post,




Tied to the whipping post,




Good lord, I feel like Im dyin.



My friends tell me, that Ive been such a fool,



And I have to stand by and take it baby, all for lovin you.



Drown myself in sorrow, and I look at what youve down.



But nothin seems to change, the bad times stay the same,



And I cant run.



Sometimes I feel, sometimes I feel,



Like I been tied to the whipping post



Tied to the whipping post,



Tied to the whipping post,



Good lord, I feel like Im dyin.


Sometimes I feel,



sometimes I feel,



Like I been tied to the whipping post



Tied to the whipping post,



Tied to the whipping post,



Good lord, I feel like Im dyin.

[Jeffersons Ghost]

1. how about some kicks and votes...

those who sit by and do nothing about the atrocities are as guilty as those who order, approve and commit them.

Let's celebrate October
Here are a few things that happened in October in the past:

October 19 1933 Germany withdraws from the League of Nations.

October 1934 First major wave of arrests of homosexuals occurs throughout Germany,
continuing into November.

October 15 1936 The Ministry of Science and Education prohibits teaching by “non-
Aryans” in public schools and bans private instruction by Jewish
teachers.

October 1939 Hitler extends powers to doctors to kill institutionalized mentally and
physically disabled persons in the “euthanasia” program.

October 1940 The Warsaw Ghetto is established.
October 3 1940 Anti-Jewish laws are passed by France’s Vichy Government.

October 1941 Construction begins on Birkenau, an addition to the Auschwitz camp.
Birkenau includes a killing center, which begins operations in early 1942.

October 4 1942 All Jews in concentration camps in Germany are sent to death camp at
Auschwitz.

[derby378]

2. One of those photos is a fake

It was distributed by an anti-Semitic Mexican website. It's taken from a porno flick that caters to rape fantasies, but the woman depicted gave her consent.

You might want to remove it, IMHO.

[Jeffersons Ghost]

3. I don't make those type of calls, which is why I said "reportedly"...

are you saying that nothing like that photo is happening in Iraq? If NO U.S. troops have committed rape yet, they eventually will. Did you see where the Army lowered its standards, once again, to accept a larger cross-section of convicted criminals? I've read in reliable sources that our women in uniform, travel in groups, when they go to the latrine at night.

[Scriptor Ignotus]

7. it's a little misleading

and IMO, you undermine your own very valid point by keeping it there. Maybe it's too late to edit the OP, but there is no need to embellish the horrible things we've done in Iraq. The truth is ghastly enough on its own.

[Jeffersons Ghost]

6. i give to you Private Green...

Steven Dale Green is a former Private First Class in the United States Army who is charged with raping a 14-year-old Iraqi girl named Abeer Qasim Hamza al-Janabi and murdering her and three of her family members in the village of Mahmudiyah while on active duty in Iraq.

should the Army lower standards for enlistment, like they did AGAIN last week?

Green grew up in Midland, Texas. According to school officials, he dropped out of high school in 2002 after completing the 10th grade and moved to Denver City, Texas, where he earned his high school equivalency in 2003. Days after a misdemeanor arrest for alcohol possession, Green enlisted in the US Army in February 2005.

On June 30, 2006, Green was arrested by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. On July 3, 2006, he was charged by United States Federal Court prosecutors with the rape and murder of a 14-year-old girl named Abeer Qassim Hamza and the killing of her sister Hadeel (age 5), her father, Qassim Hamza Rasheed, and her mother, Fakhriya Taha Muhasen in Mahmoudiyah, Iraq, on March 12, 2006.

According to the military, Green and four other soldiers SGT Paul E. Cortez, SPC James P. Barker, PFC Jesse V. Spielman and PFC Bryan L. Howard planned the girl's rape. PFC Howard was told to monitor a radio as the others entered the victims' house. The affidavit states that Green ordered the father, mother and younger daughter into a bedroom. Shots were fired, after which Green emerged and reportedly said, "I just killed them, all are dead." Green and at least one other individual proceeded to sexually assault Abeer Qassim Hamza, after which Green fired two or three shots into her head, killing her. Five individuals, including Green, have been charged for participating in the incident in some way. Paul E. Cortez, James P. Barker, Jesse V. Spielman and Bryan L. Howard could face the death penalty, military spokesman Maj. Gen. William Caldwell said at a news conference.

Although he recieved an Honorable Discharge from the Army, If convicted on these charges, Green could face the death penalty.

[heidiho]

4. God Surely Must Be Weeping -

Thanks for posting this - I'm passing it around.

[Jeffersons Ghost]

5. I'm truly sorry to inflict this imagery on my friends at DU but...

If we turn a blind eye to these atrocities, we are no better than the citizens of Germany that looked away when the horror began at Auschwitz-Birkenau.

[elehhhhna]

8. You forgot Poland.

That's where Auschwitz is located, IIRC.

Sorta like our offshore prisons, come to think of it.

[Jeffersons Ghost]

9. thanks for the kick. i don't know why but one image sticks in my mind...

those gigantic piles of footwear at Aushwitz:





How much footwear will pile up this time?