I cannot take this anymore.

[Maraya1969]

I just watched Night-line. US soldiers going into Iraqi houses and children hover on the floor while they walk around with their big guns. Both military men who were discussing this said what we all know; That these types of experiences will permanently embed in a person's brain. Multiply that by the hundreds and what do you think we are doing to an entire nation?
Maybe we can call it "Battered civilian syndrome".
Or "Battered Nation Syndrome"

One thing I know. No one can "win" this war. No one "wins" any war. It is all lose lose. And if Osama Bin Laden wants the Democrats to win this election because he knows we will bring an end to the war then maybe we should consider why. He may hate Americans but he probably loves his fellow Muslims. And I bet he hates to see little children die also. So....he must know that the killing and the dying of his people will lesson if the Americans leave and not get worse like the Republicans want you to believe.





Oh and they both stated that the "response is causing the insurgency". An endless loop of violence. It has just got to stop.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

1. Amen

:cry:

[Erika]

2. W's father didn't go into Baghdad because of destabilization

of the whole MidEast. W did, and our troops and the Iraqis are paying for his arrogance, greed, and stupidity.

[Mira]

3. If I start to think about it I lose it .

What concerns me greatly is what this horror does to our soldiers mental health. The difficulties of re-integrating them back into our society are staggering to me, after what they will have seen, experienced and done.

[grilled onions]

4. Does A War Ever End?

A soldier dies and his family has the heartbreak for this generation and the next. There will always be a void at the dinner table,that birthday,that holiday. Bombs destroy land,many so bad that farm fields are little more then craters. Bombs yield poisons and nuclear materials that generations will suffer because of . Crops won't grow but cancers will. Mutations will create babies will all sorts of problems.
The hate that war breeds continues for generations. Babies not even born yet will be taught to hate an enemy they may not even see.
The cost of war continues for generations as well. The money that could have been spent on the people or to improve their life or the land is spent on the weapons of war. Only those who have stock in war "toys" seems to benefit. Even on the home turf resentment and distrust continues for years. Families become split over the war,neighbors become suspicious of others with different religions,different cultures. War never unites as much as it divides. Many still talk about the Civil War,vets still get teary eyed over their past tours of duty. They cannot forget. Viet Nam is still a painful period in our history. Iraq will be felt by many generations as well. War is never a done deal.

[Maraya1969]

6. Excellent post. "There will always be a void at the dinner table"

[lpbk2713]

5. Many have compared the Boosh war in Iraq to Viet Nam.

To be more specific, the longer we are there it begins to look more like My Lai.

[Totally Committed]

7. Amen!

K & R for a post from the heart... all our hearts!

:kick:

TC

[Jacobin]

8. We worry about post traumatic stress syndrome for our soldiers

We have inflicted that syndrome on the entire country with shock and awe, routine bombings, house to house searches, torture, 70 percent unemployment and opening up the country to civil war.

Who's gonna treat the Iraqis?

Is it any wonder that 60 percent of Iraqis support attacks on US soldiers?

[sutz12]

9. Exactly....we are using Saddam's tactics. How are we "better" than him? nt

[cali]

10. sorry to take issue here

but I doubt that bin laden loves his fellow Muslims. He certainly hasn't demonstrated that. He's more than happy to kill Muslims, and he doesn't merely hate Americans. Claiming that he loves his fellow Muslims is like claiming bushco loves his fellow Americans. It's bullshit.

[Maraya1969]

11. Why do you think he fights a Jihad against Americans if he doesn't

think they are the evil ones in the war? Bin Laden has said that he wanted the US to get out of Iraq, we say we want out of Iraq. I can't think of any reason for wanting to get out of Iraq except to stop the bloodshed. Even serial killers love their family.

[cali]

14. I didn't say he didn't hate

Americans. I said they're not the only ones he hates, and anyone with any knowledge whatsoever about him would know that. Americans are not the only people targeted by Bin Laden, and he's killed plenty of his fellow Muslims. BTW, a billion + people who share one's religion, don't qualify as family. Ludicrous to assert that.

[Maraya1969]

15. It was an analogy. Meaning that a cold hearted killer can have a warm

heart toward his family or whatever group he identifies with.

[KKKarl is an idiot]

12. What if this happened

in the heartland? Children on the floor, marines walking in with guns. It would be an uproar. People need to wake up to the facts. If you do not want it happening in your house then why do you advocate it happening half way across the world.

[technorazzi]

13. What we have become

What trouble's me most is that we have become the enemy. Everything that these fundamentalist crackppots are waging war against us for, we have become since nine eleven - Occupiers, torturers, colonialists, crusaders, killers, murderers.

[newyawker99]

16. Hi technorazzi!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast: