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lwcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 09:02 AM
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Thank you, Bob Woodward...
Edited on Thu Nov-16-06 09:16 AM by lwcon
... and the rest of you fucks who cheerled this war of whim.

WaPo headline:

Iraq sectarian strife imperils entire region
Analysts say civil war is a reality, but real worry is that chaos will spread


Now that Iraq civil war denial is going the way of Donald Rumsfeld, the Post acknowledges that Operation Pandora just may be the catalyst that World War III was looking for:

We're not talking about just a full-scale civil war. This would be a failed-state situation with fighting among various groups," growing into regional conflict, Joost Hiltermann, Middle East project director for the International Crisis Group, said by telephone from Amman, Jordan.

The war will be over Iraq, over its dead body," Hiltermann said.

"All indications point to a current state of civil war and the disintegration of the Iraqi state," Nawaf Obaid, an adjunct fellow at the Center for Strategic and International Studies and an adviser to the Saudi government, said last week at a conference in Washington on U.S.-Arab relations....

"When the ethnic-religious break occurs in one country, it will not fail to occur elsewhere, too," Syrian President Bashar al-Assad told Germany's Der Spiegel newsweekly recently. "It would be as it was at the end of the Soviet Union, only much worse. Large wars, small wars -- no one will be able to get a grip on the consequences."


To be fair, WaPo described a regional war, not a world war. Clearly what happens in the Middle East stays in the Middle East. We have no interests in the region, and there's no reason to worry about problems there following us here, is there?

And besides, who could have guessed that destabilizing a hemmed-in secular Arab dictatorship comprised of three bitter ethnic-religious rival factions could be anything but a boon to the region? Especially after things worked out so well with our friends, the mujahideen!

It's time that all Americans, even us crazy lefty bloggers who didn't see how grand and glorious this war would be, thank the entire media establishment for all you've done for us and for the Iraqi people.

More than anything, you deserve special recognition for your cooing about Colin Powell's "compelling evidence," which consisted of a vial that didn't contain anthrax and wasn't Saddam Hussein's and satellite photos of a shed with a truck next to it — a shed which, Powell noted, had already been torn down. I mean, hell, once you saw that, those hundreds of thousands of Iraqi bastards just had to die, even if it meant bringing on Armageddon. What else could we do?

The Washington Post "Irrefutable": "Mr. Powell left no room to argue seriously that Iraq has accepted the Security Council's offer of a 'final opportunity' to disarm. And he offered a powerful new case that Saddam Hussein's regime is cooperating with a branch of the al Qaeda organization that is trying to acquire chemical weapons and stage attacks in Europe."

The New York Times "The Case Against Iraq": "It may not have produced a 'smoking gun," but it left little question that Mr. Hussein had tried hard to conceal one."

The Wall Street Journal "Powell's Smoking Gun": "The Powell evidence will be persuasive to anyone who is still persuadable. ...The only question remaining is whether the U.N. is going to have the courage of Mr. Powell's convictions."

USA Today "Powell lays out convincing evidence of Iraq defiance: "Eight days after President Bush promised to present the world with compelling evidence of Iraq's illegal weapons programs, Secretary of State Colin Powell delivered—and then some. As he methodically documented Iraq's continuing deception, Powell also illustrated the futility of indefinite weapons inspections advocated by critics at home and abroad."

The Los Angeles Times "U.N. -- Time for a Deadline": "The United Nations risks irrelevance unless it promptly sets a date on which it will use military force against Iraq if that nation does not disarm. Piling fact upon fact, photo upon photo Wednesday, Secretary of State Colin L. Powell methodically demonstrated why Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein remains dangerous to his own people, Iraq's neighbors and, potentially, the Western world."

Arizona Republic: "On Wednesday, America's most reluctant warrior, U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell, presented succinct and damning evidence of Saddam's enormous threat to world peace."

Austin American-Statesman: "After Wednesday's presentation and response, Americans must wonder what it would take for the United Nations to actually act against Iraq."

Birmingham (AL) News: "The United Nations can choose to be irrelevant, or it can join the United States and deliver those 'serious consequences.'"

Charleston (WV) Daily Mail: "The threat is real and at our door. Sept. 11, 2001, stripped away the belief that the United States can peacefully coexist with evil. Prove it, they said. Powell has. Now the United States and the more than 40 nations standing behind it await the rest of the nations of the free world to show where they stand."

Charlotte (NC) Observer: "Secretary of State Colin Powell laid out a powerful argument before the United Nations Wednesday that Iraq is systematically resisting the U.N. resolution requiring it to disarm. ...This conflict is not simply between the United States and Iraq. There is a growing international consensus that if Saddam Hussein continues to resist disarmament, he can expect war. The choice is up to him."

Chicago Sun-Times: "We are a country always loath to fight unless provoked. The reluctance of Americans to initiate a war needlessly does the nation credit. But this is not a needless war, nor is it unprovoked. Powell laid out the need, and explained the provocation, in step-by-step fashion that cannot be refuted without resorting to fantasy."

Cincinnati Post: "The United Nations can, of course, walk away from Iraq's refusal to comply with U.N. Resolution 1441, and it looks as it if will. But if it does, it walks away from relevance, as Secretary of State Colin Powell says."

Columbus Dispatch: "The Dispatch repeatedly has called on the Bush administration to make a compelling case that Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein is developing weapons of mass destruction and hiding these efforts from U.N. inspectors. Yesterday, Secretary of State Colin Powell made that case before the Security Council."

Contra Costa (CA) Times: "If the United Nations is to remain a viable organization, it must enforce its resolutions or they will be meaningless. If some nations on the Security Council do not have the foresight to force Iraq to disarm, they can always abstain from any further U.N. resolutions. They need not decimate the credibility of the world body by using their veto power."

Dallas Morning News: "In truth, the only thing wrong with the eyes of many U.N. members is that they are closed. Human nature is such that people often prefer to shut out rather than admit reality. The world did no less during the 1930s when Germany began to remilitarize and to mistreat its Jews. But the present stakes are too high to permit self-deception. Saddam Hussein's illicit arsenal of biological and chemical weapons, as well as the equally illicit means that he possesses to deliver them, poses a tangible and urgent danger to U.S. and world security. Millions of innocent lives are at risk."

Denver Post: "With the coolness of Marshal Dillon facing down a gunslinger in Dodge City, U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell on Wednesday delivered a damning recitation of Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein's continuing violations of United Nations orders to disarm. From our perspective, Powell's speech to the U.N. Security Council presented not just one 'smoking gun' but a battery of them, more than sufficient to dispel any lingering doubt about the threat the Iraqi dictator poses."

Detroit News: "The secretary left little doubt that Saddam's time is short, and he brought the United Nations to an important fork in the road. The U.N. can either support the United States and its allies in opposing Saddam and rescuing Iraqis from the oppression documented by Amnesty International and others. Or the United Nations can ignore its own resolutions and walk away from a dangerous and unpredictable dictator."

Greenville (SC) News: "At some point, the world chooses to believe President George W. Bush and Secretary Powell or the international community chooses to side with Saddam Hussein and those who broadcast his lies to the world. ...Powell has painstakingly presented a strong case against Iraq. Time is running out."

Indianapolis Star: "Powell has methodically proved Iraq's failure to comply with U.N. mandates. With each passing day, Iraq's own choices move it closer to a war that full compliance would prevent."

Jacksonville (FL) Times-Union: "Iraq is busted. U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell laid out the case clearly. No one hearing Powell's presentation to the United Nations Security Council could doubt Iraq's actions and intentions. ...Failing to act in the face of a clear threat to humanity could be the beginning of the end for the United Nations."

Kansas City (MO) Star: "Even for listeners who had few illusions about the Iraqi regime, Powell's presentation provided a disturbing picture. The sheer number of different weapons research programs, together with the huge amounts of lethal materials that remain unaccounted for by the regime, raise unsettling questions about how much damage Hussein could do."

Manchester (NH) Union Leader: "Powell has connected enough dots to tie Iraq to al-Qaida and show that this alliance is a threat to all of Europe as well as the United States. Neither confronting Iraq nor fighting terrorism was ever America's fight alone, and that is more plainly visible now than ever. Will Europe’s hold-outs see this?"

Miami Herald: "Mr. Powell may not have persuaded all of the skeptics around the world or in the U.N. Security Council. But by choosing the open forum of the United Nations and by putting hard evidence behind the administration's emotional push for war, Mr. Powell has laid the groundwork for justifying war -- if the United States ultimately finds that there are no other options left."

Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel: "Secretary of State Colin Powell's 90-minute presentation to the U.N. Security Council, buttressed with surveillance photographs and recorded phone conversations, should remove all doubt that Iraq's Saddam Hussein has developed and hides weapons of mass destruction, in violation of U.N. resolutions. Neither is there any doubt now that the United Nations will lose all its credibility if it allows Iraq's flagrant provocations to go unanswered."

Oklahoma City Oklahoman: "Case closed."

Palm Beach (FL) Post: "Iraq's level of cooperation over the next few days will show whether Saddam Hussein was listening to Secretary Powell. If Iraq wasn't, the U.N. must show that it was."

Portland (ME) Press-Herald: "In fact, the speech provided proof that Saddam continues to refuse to obey U.N. resolutions. Any amount of time he has now to comply fully and openly with U.N. demands should be measured in days or a few weeks — and no longer."

Portland Oregonian: "The United States wouldn't be going to such lengths to convince the U.N. Security Council of the need to defend the world against Saddam Hussein if it weren't important for other countries to join in the effort. But self-defense requires the United States to preserve its own options of acting against Iraq. Although Powell was trying to persuade the Security Council that it was time to take enforcement action, he was no doubt trying to convince Americans of the same thing. We think he made his case."

Salt Lake City Tribune: "The United States has made a compelling case that Iraq has failed to rid itself of weapons of mass destruction. This failure violates the U.N. Security Council resolution of late last year which ordered Iraq to disarm. As a consequence, and it is a grave one, the Security Council must act now to disarm Iraq by force."

San Jose Mercury News: "Comment in this space has pushed for continued inspections, giving Iraq a firm deadline and waiting until that time to push the case for further action. Powell effectively demolished that argument."


So, hey MSM, have yourself a good larf next time Dubya does some hi-larious schtick about those non-existent WMDs. Because you guys worked hard for this.

And I'd be remiss without a special shout-out to Judith "follow the standards and of the journalism industry" Miller. The world's a better place thanks to you and all you do!

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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 09:12 AM
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1. Amazing, isn't it? Major media outlets supporting liars and
broadcasting their lies. And they call democrats traitors.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 10:52 AM
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3. And not only that
The only way to get on the major media platform to discuss the war is to have been wrong about it from the get-go. If you were against the war, if you thought it wasn't going to work, if you thought it was a piss-poor way of settling our differences with Iraq, if you believed the weapons inspectors on the ground in Iraq instead of Powell's Prevaricating Power Point Presentation, you're shut out of the conversation. Your voice doesn't count because of the scary prospect that you might say, "Told you so" to the leading lights of our media overlords.

And the more wrong you were, the more air time you get now to expound on your latest "brilliant" solution to the fuck-up you so assiduously advocated.
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lwcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 11:41 AM
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5. Well said, G!
Even though I was on the wrong side of the war (opposing it), I'm trying hard to come up with a solution.

Here's my latest thinking: http://vastleft.blogspot.com/2006/11/iraq-in-flux.html

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gaja Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 09:18 AM
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2. Thank you Bernard Lewis
http://www.daanspeak.com/IranAttack03Eng.html

Bernard Lewis' glorification of Moslem irrationalism thus prepares the way for the ideology attributed to al Qaeda. Lewis' second idea is that the existing Arab countries are illegitimate, and need to be carved up into a crazy quilt of ridiculous petty states who will be unable to threaten any important interest of Anglo-American imperialism.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-16-06 10:55 AM
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4. I have to say, you sure write some AWESOME posts!
I always know I'll be cheering by mid-post when I see your screenname!

Another great one, lwcon!

TC
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