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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 11:41 PM
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Edwards sketches 08 platform (diplomatic channels w/Syria & Iran, global warming, out of Iraq)
Edited on Thu Feb-01-07 11:49 PM by JohnLocke
Edwards sketches 2008 platform
By Grace Wyler--The Dartmouth
Thursday, February 1, 2007

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Former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards, who announced his presidential run in December, addresses a packed Alumni Hall on Wednesday afternoon.
Standing in the center of an overflowing Alumni Hall Wednesday, 2008 presidential candidate John Edwards implored the Dartmouth community to take action against global poverty, climate change and other issues plaguing a world that has become "an extraordinarily dangerous and chaotic place."
In a town-hall style speech, the former senator from North Carolina stressed the need for the American people to reemerge as leaders in the global community by becoming the forerunners in the battles against global warming, disease and genocide.
"It is now clear to me that baby steps, incremental change is not enough," Edwards said. "We need serious transformational change on so many fronts. The character of America needs to be seen and heard. As the preeminent power of the planet we have an enormous responsibility to humanity. America must be a force for good on earth, and that means that we have to do more than talk."
Edwards, who announced his candidacy in New Orleans on Dec. 28, repeatedly emphasized his commitment to honesty and to re-establishing trust in the office of the presidency. Foregoing the traditional suit and tie for a more casual blazer and slacks, Edwards' informality has been characteristic of his campaign thus far.
"I have come to believe that the most important thing, not just for America but for the world, in our next president, is to be able to trust again, to be able to believe that you can trust that what your president is telling you is the truth, whether it's good or bad." Edwards said. "You need to believe that your president wants to do the right thing. Your president is human, he makes mistakes, but you need to know that that president is willing to be completely open with us, to be real."
Edwards' wife, Elizabeth, introduced her husband by highlighting his honesty and trustworthiness.
"The motto of the state of North Carolina is to be rather than to seem," Elizabeth said. "This motto perfectly defines this man, which I hope is part of the reason why you are all here, because you know that you will not get any artifice."
(...)
Edwards' speech detailed his plans for Iraq, which he called "a mess." His plans included the immediate removal of 40,000 to 50,000 troops. He also spoke to the importance of opening up diplomatic channels with Syria and Iran.
"The solution has got to be political," Edwards said. "It is clear there is no military solution."
Edwards spoke about the importance of America emerging as a leader in the battle against climate change by putting a cap on carbon dioxide emissions, and he concluded his speech with comments on his plans to battle poverty both in the United States and abroad, a subject that has become one of his hallmarks.
"It is not okay to have 37 million people in this country wake up every day and not be able to clothe or feed their children," Edwards said. "This is a subject I could talk about forever, it is so important that you be instrumental in bringing about these transformational changes. There is so much at stake and you can't continue to keep waiting for someone else to do this for you."
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Kiouni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 11:52 PM
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1. I have to agree with
Edwards on this plan for with drawl over Sen. Bidens'. Edwards seems to be following the iraq study report in his plan of action which is promising for a candidate to respect the wisdom of others.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 10:51 AM
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3. I thought the same thing
"Listening to others" is a sure sign of intellectual curiosity too, which is very important for any leader.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 11:59 PM
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2. Diplomacy with Iran?
Edited on Fri Feb-02-07 12:04 AM by Skwmom
Is that what Edwards plans to educate the American people about - to bring them on board with diplomacy? Oh you know that American public, they are ever so reticent about using diplomacy or economic sanctions - they just prefer going to war.

Maybe Edwards should worry less about educating the American public and more about keeping his rhetoric straight. If he's so gung-ho on war (and considering he CO-SPONSORED the IWR) why isn't he taking his daughter down to the local recruiting office to sign up? Hmmmm... Maybe he should spend more time educating at home.

EDWARDS IN HIS OWN WORDS

As to the American people, this is a difficult question. The vast majority of people are concerned about what is going on in Iraq. This will make the American people reticent toward going for Iran. But I think the American people are smart if they are told the truth, and if they trust their president. So Americans can be educated to come along with what needs to be done with Iran."
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2007/Edwards_Iran_must_kno ...
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venable Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 04:40 PM
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5. maybe his words are straight, and you are not hearing them
I agree with you that the verzliya comments can be construed as hawkish...but they can also not be.

I have argued that they might have been a poor characterization of the totality of his thought (his fault, which is rare for him oratorically)...

and yet, when my position is bolstered by these further comments, you simply resort to what YOU WANT HIM TO HAVE SAID, SINCE YOU DON'T LIKE HIM>

Listen to all his words. You've posted that EDWARDS IN HIS OWN WORDS now, how many times? You refuse to account for the fact that he says - in many other venues, incliding the OP - otherwise than you presume. When will you listen to all his words? Are you interested in what he has to say, or in telling us what you believe he is saying. Try the former.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 04:44 PM
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6. The comments from that announcement concern
resolving Iraq.

They do not revolve around his discussion of Iranian nukes.

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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 05:12 PM
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7. That's my question.
Is
snip>"The solution has got to be political," Edwards said. "It is clear there is no military solution."<snip
in reference to the region, or just Iraq?
Big difference. Sorry, this article does not clarify anything for me.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 05:21 PM
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8. It didn't discuss the Iranian nuke issue at all, and
would contradict Edwards hawkish remarks on Iran.

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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 01:46 AM
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9. These are Edwards own words - not what I want him to have said but
Edited on Sat Feb-03-07 01:49 AM by Skwmom
What he actually said. What kind of p.r. spin is this?

They can be construed as hawkish... but they can also not be? By who?

I'm tired of politicians that say whatever the current crowd wants to hear. But based on Edwards prior actions - CO-SPONSORING the IWR and cheerleading so loudly for the war that even the Bush camp included his comments on their website - I'd say he definitely belongs in the hawkish (I need to look tough on national security camp). Plus his saying I'm sorry only AFTER support for the war drops to an all-time low, I accept responsibility - now reward me by making me the next president kind of rubs me the wrong way.

But if it makes you happy, in the future I'll post comments by Edwards in other venues. Though really it only shows what a pandering politician he is.

People constantly slam Clinton but Edwards is from the same mold. Clinton/Edwards is a match made in ..... But Clinton is appealing to the middle class and Edwards to the poor so I suppose they think they have all their bases covered.
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atre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 07:58 PM
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12. you must forgive skwmom
She talked a few years ago about how lawyers were the scourge of society ("scum-sucking" was the term, IIRC), so her thought-process here really can't be characterized as arising from reasoned thought.

She's also a die-hard Clarkie.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 01:21 AM
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13. Arising from reasoned thought?
Edited on Sun Feb-04-07 01:26 AM by Skwmom
Funny, I've always been highly praised for my reasoning and analytical ability. I guess that's why I really don't have much tolerance for politicians who speak out of both sides of their mouth. As far as logic and reasoning, the Edward's team might want to work on that b/c some of their arguments are among the lamest I've ever had to wade through. I think they've gotten soft b/c they are use to going up against the rah, rah media and overpaid hacks who'd love to see your guy be the Democratic nominee.

My support of Clark has nothing to do with my opinion of Edwards. As far as attorneys go - there are good and bad attorneys just like there are good and bad doctors, accountants etc. Edwards, a corporate attorney turned personal injury attorney who sued ob-gyns on very thin medical evidence, contributing to the lack of ob-gyns in many areas of this country (focusing on lining his own pockets versus what impact his conduct would have on health care for pregnant women) .... well let's just say he doesn't fall in my good attorney category.

It's been my experience when someone starts to attack you personally, they don't really have a leg to stand on. I'd always slightly smile and think to myself - boy have I won this one. So attack away....
I'm Irish and I never wear down.
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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 09:22 AM
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15. Valerie Lakey doesn't really agree with you.
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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 04:31 PM
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4. Kick (nt).
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 02:02 AM
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10. Edward's plan is to educate the American people on the need to "go for" Iran.
"As to the American people, this is a difficult question. The vast majority of people are concerned about what is going on in Iraq. This will make the American people reticent toward going for Iran. But I think the American people are smart if they are told the truth, and if they trust their president. So Americans can be educated to come along with what needs to be done with Iran."

"Come along with what needs to be done in Iran" can only mean one thing....war.

Well, Johhny, if you assume yourself war with Iran is enivitable than it assuredly is if you ever become President.
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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 10:58 AM
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11. Bullcrap (nt).
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vikegirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-04-07 01:43 AM
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14. Oh so dignified.
Anyway, if you want to impress, PLEASE leave spaces between paragraphs.
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