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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 09:29 AM
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National Intelligence Estimate, Iraq out of control
(And on CNN Radio news @ 9:00 AM bush to ignore the report.)

Report's forecast for Iraq is grim

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0702020160feb02,1,3433084.story?coll=chi-newsnationworld-hed

Sources say classified intelligence document points to further strife

By Karen DeYoung and Walter Pincus
The Washington Post
Published February 2, 2007

WASHINGTON -- A long-awaited National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq, presented to President Bush by the intelligence
community Thursday, outlines an increasingly perilous situation in which the United States has little control and there
is a strong possibility of further deterioration, according to sources familiar with the document.

In a discussion of whether Iraq has reached a state of civil war, the 90-page classified NIE comes to no conclusion and
holds out prospects of improvement. But it couches glimmers of optimism in deep uncertainty about whether the Iraqi
leaders will be able to transcend sectarian interests and fight against extremists, establish effective national institutions
and end rampant corruption.

The document emphasizes that while Al Qaeda activities in Iraq remain a problem, they have been surpassed by
Iraqi-on-Iraqi conflict as the main source of violence and the most immediate threat to U.S. goals. Iran, which
the administration has accused of supplying and directing Iraqi extremists, is mentioned but is not a central focus.

Completion of the estimate, which projects events in Iraq over the next 18 months, comes amid intensifying debate
and skepticism on Capitol Hill about the administration's war policy. In a series of contentious hearings over the past
two weeks, legislators have sharply questioned Bush's new plan for the deployment of 21,500 additional U.S. troops
and the administration's dependence on the Iraqi government of Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki.
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KKKarl is an idiot Donating Member (662 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 09:35 AM
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1. ..
"(And on CNN Radio news @ 9:00 AM bush to ignore the report.)". He will do more than that. He will call for another 20 000 troops on top of the previous order. In fact I think we should get every able bodied man & women in the US to pick up their weapons & go to Iraq (except those that are rich & children of the rich). :sarcasm:
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 09:44 AM
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2. To put a finer point on the White House response ....
Edited on Fri Feb-02-07 09:52 AM by Botany
..... something about one part of the report stated that Iraq would
be in chaos if we would leave "showed why we have to stay."

And once again the White House "cherry picks" the intelligence
or part of a report it wants ... just like the pre war intel.

http://www.theage.com.au/ffxImage/urlpicture_id_1069027336661_2003/11/21/22HARVEST,0.jpg
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Merrill Donating Member (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 09:34 AM
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3. The Prize
Even as Iraq verges on splintering into a sectarian civil war, four big oil companies are on the verge of locking up its massive, profitable reserves, known to everyone in the petroleum industry as "the prize."

http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/43045/?comments=view&cID=257615&pID=2574112003-04/13du_boff.cfm


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/newsnight/4354269.stm

http://news.independent.co.uk/business/news/article2132467.ece



http://www.tompaine.com/articles/2005/07/18/oilcontrol_formula.php

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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-05-07 02:31 PM
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4. Seems like the Bush* Administration started out ignoring NIE
reports. One specifically about terrorist striking America, even mentioning Bin Laden by name...He creates his own intelligence so doesn't need NIE..
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